Ah, "herd immunity". Love that those on RPF are pushing "herd immunity".
Pushing? not everything is political.
BTW, so if my child has a reaction within 48 hours of a multi dose vaccine, such as blood in the stool, and the Drs multiple times refuse to acknowledge it, or allow single dose vaccines as an alternative to see if one is the culprit....what should I do as a parent?
is this typical? what exactly is the reaction?
do you expect a simple answer?
Continue to inject my child with a chemical cocktail that I know is causing some direct reaction just to help the "herd immunity", and see if it stays at status quo or gets worse the next round?
That you know? What is the reaction?
Wouldn't that be almost like abuse or at least negligent on my part as a parent?
or paranoid and cynical.
I find it ironic that so many that believe wholeheartedly in vaccines, often react so violently to those who abstain.
I don't believe wholeheartedly in vaccines, but the biggest abstainers I've seen get their arguments from fearmongers, rumors, and other baseless information.
So, it is okay for you to force my child (by intense social pressure, law and/or physical force) to take a chemical cocktail for your child's immunity?
No more than it's OK for me to force your child to live if you chose to let him die.
No more than it's OK for force you to quarantine your child if there's reason to believe they may be a risk to others.
No more than it's OK for somebody to force me to keep my child away from yours for my child's good.
But it is not okay for my child to stay as is, in a natural state, and let the immune system work things out?
Not all diseases are equal, so there's no simply answer to "let the immune system work things out".
I'm not touching, injecting or forcing anything in your child.
But if you purposely refuse to vaccinate your child, you're exposing mine to unnecessary risk. (of course, this is based on my reliance to medical professions saying that the vaccine is helpful, the disease is real, and prevention is serious)
My husband and I actually got into a discussion with his formerly favorite aunt on vaccinations recently. She was in an extremely argumentative mode and tried to argue everyone should be forced to have vaccinations.
I don't believe vaccines are perfect. Just for the record.
We calmly asked what about those who had reactions (minor to severe). Within two minutes the conversation went downhill very fast. She said they were so few that had reactions or are injured, that for the good of the many everyone should be forced to....We pointed out our 2nd and 3rd children both had reactions, and we have stopped vaccinations.
what were the reactions, short or long term?
We asked would she potentially risk their lives by forcing something into their system against their (and our) will to save her own. She (yelling/screaming by now....she was very heated), said yes she would kill our child to save her own life.
as if you'd do the opposite.
She actually said this, in front of our children, coming aggressively at me while I held our youngest in my arms. My husband had to physically get between her and me as she cornered me. Needless to say we won't be around her anymore. She is the extreme example of where progressivism heads to when discussing social matters. That for the "social good" it is okay to violate another.
I dare you say you'd not violate or use force to protect social good.
BTW, it is very hard to get Drs to acknowledge reactions, much less report them in VEERS, so the data is likely faulty.
So either the doctors are in on a conspiracy, in which case you should stop trusting them, or you're seeing what you shouldn't worry of.
We were pro-vaccination before our 2nd child started having reactions. We did our research on the .gov site as asked to by our Dr at the time, and he sadly failed when we asked him many questions he should've known the answer to (like what the ingredients were in each vaccine). The vaccine makers are making it more difficult to obtain single vaccinations, not easier. And, they are also leaving in many questionable ingredients, despite campaigns to the contrary.
This would run completely contrary to the claim that they just want to make money. If money were to goal, they'd make placebo vaccines and never risk being accused of giving harmful injections.
If hurting people were the goal, they'd not nicely ask you to get vaccinated.
What's a questionable ingredient? Thimerisol?
Also, some outbreaks are caused by those who have had the vaccination (smallpox) and then expose others to it.
I will not force people to not take vaccinations. I would like the courtesy of people not forcing my children (or me) to take them in return.
you sound like there's a difference between "active" and "passive" use of force and exposure to danger.
AND OBTW - Where do all those recommendations from the "settled science" come from? The CDC. I know no one here on the RPF could in their wildest imagination believe that there could be a hidden agenda there that might lead someone in the CDC to cherry pick their "settled science." Nope. No chance....
it's possible.
where do you get your settled science? or is everything about your child?
