Penn & Teller's "BS" Yesterday on vaccinations...

If that flu had a higher percentage of lethality and no vaccines were made everyone would be up in arms. It's called the precautionary principle. Where something that has a plausible risk of occurring and has the potential to be of great impact you don't sit on your ass and do nothing. What if it had mutated into a more deadly form? These things can't be known for certain which is why action must be taken. Doing nothing will surly not leave you better off if things do go wrong.
 
dannno said:
Have you ever tried injecting that much into your veins :confused:
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no, he hasn't and it wouldn't matter.

because as he said.

he eats more ice cream with sugar and water than you'll ever inject in a lifetime of water and sugar.

he can inject a little more water and a little more sugar, and it won't kill him.
 
EndDaFed said:
If that flu had a higher percentage of lethality and no vaccines were made everyone would be up in arms.
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exactly, and then people would be complaining and conspiracing that Big Pharma wants people to be sick and withhold cures until they can sell it for a sky high price.

it's spoiled people who live in industrialized countries that get to chose whether they want to be immunized.

It's called the precautionary principle. Where something that has a plausible risk of occurring and has the potential to be of great impact you don't sit on your ass and do nothing. What if it had mutated into a more deadly form? These things can't be known for certain which is why action must be taken. Doing nothing will surly not leave you better off if things do go wrong.
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granted that not all mutations are equal, and not all risks are equal, you are right. not all actions are worthy either, (too bad, the people who pretend to be skeptical and paranoid aren't those who actually do the math).

this is why when the H1N1 & bid flu scares first started, people jumped back and forth about what conspiracy they want to believe in. Ranging from the flu is intentionally made, to the flu doesn't really exist, to the vaccines are harmful to the vacccines are useless. the people who ran out to by sanitation supplies are the same people who don't want you to listen to the media about the possible outbreak.
 
Ricky201 said:
YouTube - More Politicians Should Be Like Rand Paul! - Penn Point

He states that he likes Rand's honesty, but he lumps him in with the "Christian Right" so therefore he already disagrees with him.
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Interesting. Does he not understand that Rand learned his Christianity from his father? I'm amazed at the number of atheists who just gloss over Ron Paul's open and avowed Christianity and yet show such hostility to other Christians who share Ron Paul's limited government philosophy.
 
Zippyjuan: there is no reason whatsoever to inject a control group with adjuvants and preservatives or anything other than saline unless you're worried that adverse reactions to them would be shown in stark relief.
 
Don't care who thinks I should give my kids vaccines nor do I care who doesn't like it. My daughter was given all her shots up until 18 months she was sick constantly,my son has NEVER had a shot in his life and has NEVER been sick. So you can make your own assumptions. I had to change doctors because every time we went for a check up the 1 doctor insisted on letting us give my son shots. Since we have stopped giving the kids that poison my daughter is healthier than ever,before we stopped giving her the vaccines she used to break out in hives on her back constantly and itch has not happened once since we stopped the vaccines.
 
That was a great episode. They covered many of the main points without being mean about it like their past shows. This was a tame show by comparison.
 
Kludge said:
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YouTube - Penn Jillette supports Ron Paul

Edit: saw "Ron" not "Rand"
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You see what we are dealing with people?

Penn says he "supports" Ron Paul but then they all giggle about he is "unelectable". They pay lip service to truth but they don't back truth up and truly support it. Only the guy on the phone probably was a sincere supporter.

"Yeah, I agree with Ron Paul but lets be serious, he won't be elected."

When they "support" Ron Paul with this superficial tone, and then all join together in their little giggles about how they basically all realize that it will have to be someone else because "come on, seriously, you know he can't win" they betray Ron Paul with a kiss.
 
Isn't that the same Dr Horrowitz that said that if everybody could hit the same frequency that there would be no more wars and total peace on the planet? 528Hz? (He is a dentist, not a medical doctor and says he quit that in 1996). He claims that this frequency can also "repair broken DNA". Says AIDs is not caused by HIV and that he can cure it.

He claims he found the number hidden in the Bible.
http://www.drlenhorowitz.com/wow3press_release.htm

He told Al Jezera that the H1N1 vaccine was intended to wipe out muslims (how a killer vaccine could tell the religion of it's host is beyond me).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Horowitz
On October 7, 2009, Horowitz told al Jazeera that H1N1 vaccines would cause sterility, as part of a plan of "pangenocide" against Muslims.
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He also said that AIDs was intended to wipe out black people.

In his 2001 book entitled, Death in the Air: Globalism, Terrorism and Toxic Warfare, Horowitz concludes that the predilection of HIV/AIDS for Black Americans and Africans is the likeliest result of successful national security policies ordered during the administrations of Richard M. Nixon and Jimmy Carter, leaving very little room for argument that there is no intentional movement to eliminate the Black population globally. Horowitz said national security documents reveal the intentional targeting of Blacks in America and Africa for population control, including depopulation, as is being accomplished by the AIDS epidemic today.
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You see what we are dealing with people?

Penn says he "supports" Ron Paul but then they all giggle about he is "unelectable". They pay lip service to truth but they don't back truth up and truly support it. Only the guy on the phone probably was a sincere supporter.

"Yeah, I agree with Ron Paul but lets be serious, he won't be elected."

When they "support" Ron Paul with this superficial tone, and then all join together in their little giggles about how they basically all realize that it will have to be someone else because "come on, seriously, you know he can't win" they betray Ron Paul with a kiss.
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I agree. Glad you see it too. Penn and Teller are modern day gatekeeping propagandists.
 
Why don't you watch the videos on Penn and Teller, and comment on them?
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The Horrowitz video? It says nothing really. I have seen it before. Just shows he has a big ego.

The one on Ron Paul?

Or the one on GM foods? Some modified foods are good, some are not. Practically every food item you eat is the result of genetic modification. Not all of it was done using DNA but cross breeding is another tool and that has gone on for centuries as man has tried to grow better plants and animals. Do I aprove of the way that companies like Monsanto runs it- where they forbid farmers from reusing seeds? Definately not. But modified crops reduce the amounts of fertilizers and pesticides needed to feed the same amount of people with the same amount of land. Isn't that part of the reason for organic? They have produced drought or flood resistant crops which have reduced famines. Organic production has its place but it also uses more resources and land to produce the same amount of food.

Or do you mean their Vaccine show?
Update- found the Penn and Teller vaccine videos- link a couple posts down. Yeah- I pretty much agree with them on it.
 
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johngr said:
Zippyjuan: there is no reason whatsoever to inject a control group with adjuvants and preservatives or anything other than saline unless you're worried that adverse reactions to them would be shown in stark relief.
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Uh, there is if you're doing a double-blind study.
 
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