PayPal Bans YouTube Competitor Bitchute Without Explanation

[specsaregood]

So, because private enterprise is currently hamstrung by some anti-discrimination laws, there ought to be more anti-discrimination laws?

Not more, a single one that affects everybody instead of putting people into groups. I may disagree with a law; but I find it more important that all are treated equally under the law.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Not more, a single one that affects everybody instead of putting people into groups. I may disagree with a law; but I find it more important that all are treated equally under the law.

So, a law requiring PayPal (or, I suppose Facebook or similar abominations) to serve everyone...?

 

[Swordsmyth]

The biggest problem in all of this is government subsidizing connected corporations/oligarchs and inhibiting competition, if they are allowed to continue that and add Neo-Feudalism through political activist crony corporations the only possible outcomes will be absolute tyranny or armed revolt.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

The biggest problem in all of this is government subsidizing connected corporations/oligarchs and inhibiting competition, if they are allowed to continue that and add Neo-Feudalism through political activist crony corporations the only possible outcomes will be absolute tyranny or armed revolt.

That's a lot of jargon; I'm not sure what, if anything, you actually said.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Not more, a single one that affects everybody instead of putting people into groups. I may disagree with a law; but I find it more important that all are treated equally under the law.

So, a law requiring PayPal (or, I suppose Facebook or similar abominations) to serve everyone...?

Anyone.

It wouldn't be the optimal solution but if the left had to deal with the consequences that they have been forcing on everyone else they might agree to get rid of the whole thing.

 

[Swordsmyth]

That's a lot of jargon; I'm not sure what, if anything, you actually said.

Convenient reading comprehension problems?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Anyone.

It wouldn't be the optimal solution but if the left had to deal with the consequences that they have been forcing on everyone else they might agree to get rid of the whole thing.

So, to be clear, you want to extend the 1964 Civil Rights Act (an immense injustice) to the internet...

...so that the state can force online private enterprises to serve everyone?

Convenient reading comprehension problems?

Inconvenient writing problems, it would seem...

 

[specsaregood]

Convenient reading comprehension problems?

Some would rather die of starvation because they were served only oatmeal and wanted a steak.

 

[Swordsmyth]

So, to be clear, you want to extend the 1964 Civil Rights Act (an immense injustice) to the internet...

...so that the state can force online private enterprises to serve everyone?

I'm not necessarily endorsing that, I was explaining specs' position.

But we must do something, the current situation is a guaranteed path to tyranny and communism, the left gets to break all the rules that they force on everyone else while the government subsidizes them and inhibits their competition.

If the right finally grows enough of a spine to demand equal protection under the law it might be possible to get that done and then we would have a fighting chance to rectify all of the causes of current conditions, meanwhile I don't see much chance of repealing the Civil Rights Act or ending the government's subsidization of collaborating corporations and stifling their competition.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Some would rather die of starvation because they were served only oatmeal and wanted a steak.

And some want the left to impose Neo-Feudalism on us either because they are closet leftists or because they vainly think that they and their ilk can seize the reins of power afterwards.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Some would rather die of starvation because they were served only oatmeal and wanted a steak.

LOL, you people simply want the state to prohibit PayPal et al from discriminating against your political friends.

There is no difference, in this respect, between you all and the Trigglypuff crowd: "hate speech!?!?" derp derp derp.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I'm not necessarily endorsing that, I was explaining specs' position.

But we must do something, the current situation is a guaranteed path to tyranny and communism, the left gets to break all the rules that they force on everyone else while the government subsidizes them and inhibits their competition.

If the right finally grows enough of a spine to demand equal protection under the law it might be possible to get that done and then we would have a fighting chance to rectify all of the causes of current conditions, meanwhile I don't see much chance of repealing the Civil Rights Act or ending the government's subsidization of collaborating corporations and stifling their competition.

And what would you like the state to do to restrict private property rights?

 

[Swordsmyth]

And what would you like the state to do to restrict private property rights?

I would like to repeal the Civil Rights Act and end government subsidization and regulation that enables the problem, do you think we can do that right now with the left getting all of the benefits and none of the drawbacks of the current state of things?

 

[specsaregood]

I would like to repeal the Civil Rights Act and end government subsidization and regulation that enables the problem, do you think we can do that right now with the left getting all of the benefits and none of the drawbacks of the current state of things?

He likes the status quo, it lets him bitch and moan and achieve nothing.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I would like to repeal the Civil Rights Act and end government subsidization and regulation that enables the problem, do you think we can do that right now with the left getting all of the benefits and none of the drawbacks of the current state of things?

The CRA and related laws have nothing to do with the "problem" of PayPal et al discriminating against neo-NAZI groups.

That is simply a function of the (ever-diminishing) rights of property: e.g. basic principles of contract.

Eliminating the CRA et al, though it ought to be done for other reasons, won't solve your "problem."

So what do you propose? What additional violations of property rights do you endorse?

There must be something; otherwise, you'd be in agreement with me.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The CRA and related laws have nothing to do with the "problem" of PayPal et al discriminating against neo-NAZI groups.

That is simply a function of the (ever-diminishing) rights of property: e.g. basic principles of contract.

Eliminating the CRA et al, though it ought to be done for other reasons, won't solve your "problem."

So what do you propose? What additional violations of property rights do you endorse?

The CRA allows the left to force the right to serve its base by creaming "racism" etc. while the left is allowed to deny service to the right because it is presumed that the right's base can't be discriminated against.

I've said what I propose before, lawsuits for breach of contract and false advertising, I would also like to see competition arise to solve the problem but the system is rigged against that, I would like to see the CRA repealed and an end to government subsidies and regulation that gives the left unfair advantages.

But if that doesn't work then making the left play by the same rules as everyone else may be the only option, at least then they might agree to remove the mandates from everyone and they wouldn't get to control who gets to speak and be heard or who gets to buy and sell in the meantime.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I propose...lawsuits for breach of contract and false advertising

...which would justly fail, since there's been no such thing.

I would also like to see competition arise to solve the problem but the system is rigged against that, I would like to see the CRA repealed and an end to government subsidies and regulation that gives the left unfair advantages.

But if that doesn't work then making the left play by the same rules as everyone else may be the only option, at least then they might agree to remove the mandates from everyone and they wouldn't get to control who gets to speak and be heard or who gets to buy and sell in the meantime.

...a new and exciting anti-discrimination law, meant to violate the property rights of internet businesses which offend Trump people/alt-right/etc.

O well

 

[Swordsmyth]

...which would justly fail, since there's been no such thing.



...a new and exciting anti-discrimination law, meant to violate the property rights of internet businesses which offend Trump people/alt-right/etc.

O well

The alternative to the options I laid out is to see the left enthroned as a new aristocracy, not the kind of unicorn riding, libertarianism loving aristocracy that you dream about but a micromanaging, rabble bribing, socialism loving aristocracy that isn't ruled by a single king who according to you would have incentives to move towards the free market but is instead divided into permanently squabbling tribes that struggle to control an ever more powerful government to profit by stealing from us and eachother.
In short it is the negative image of your utopia and ought to frighten you to death, making everyone play by the same rules until we can repeal the rules entirely should be seen as near heaven by comparison.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Two and two don't add up here.
Such Free Speech restrictions/bans of conservatives were supposed to decrease compared to Obama era but in fact such restrictions/bans are sharply increasing under MAGA regime. What explains that?

That said, I'm still not convinced that Breitbart extremist conservatives like Kassam and Coulter had convincing proof when they made following shocking claims:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/294/982/125.jpg

 

[Swordsmyth]

Two and two don't add up here.
Such Free Speech restrictions/bans of conservatives were supposed to decrease compared to Obama era but in fact such restrictions/bans are sharply increasing under MAGA regime. What explains that?

That said, I'm still not convinced that Breitbart extremist conservatives like Kassam and Coulter had convincing proof when they made following shocking claims:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/294/982/125.jpg

The Trump administration isn't doing this, "private" corporations are.