Paul supporters 'freak out' town clerk

[FreedomFighter8008]

I know this wasn't directed at me, but don't you realize that, BECAUSE RP is a threat to the status quo, even if he didn't have a few unorthodox, overzealous supporters, operatives of opposing campaigns (or whatever) would infiltrate this board and harass petty bureaucrats, just to make us look bad. So, people with malicious intent are not going to be dislodged by your appeals to their concern for our cause.

That's true, but we shouldn't tolerate it no matter where it comes from and we need to make it clear that the vast majority of us do not support this type of behavior. Of course, the press won't care. They'll latch on to the isolated incidents and make it look like it's the norm . . .

 

[KingTheoden]

If anyone should be apologizing, it's the campaign for the behavior of its supporters. An honest mistake was made and swiftly corrected, and this woman gets harrassed for it? Who does that kind of behavior help?

Bullshit we should be apologizing. I am sure it was 'just an accident' in Greenville too. Did you forget that at first they denied Dr. Paul got any votes? Then they told Sutton residents not to talk about it.

I am so sick of people in our own camp kneeling to the system.

 

[Thomas Paine]

If anyone should be apologizing, it's the campaign for the behavior of its supporters. An honest mistake was made and swiftly corrected, and this woman gets harrassed for it? Who does that kind of behavior help?

I previously served as a local public official. This type of episode is par for the course with the job. There is an old say: if you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen. This woman clearly is too thin skinned for her position and only exarcebated the problem, if there even was a problem.

 

[Eponym_mi]

Let's not be our own worst enemy.

When people think the world is out to get them, they already are their own worst enemy.

 

[TSOL]

I just emailed this clown:


Mr Duckler

Your article on "Paul supporters 'freak out' town clerk" is typical. Another Journalist letting their political beliefs get in the way of fair reporting has become an epidemic.

The comments of "...believers in more conspiracy theories than Oliver Stone." and "...Paul actually got a whopping 31 votes" are in poor taste.

This is not a matter of Ron Paul losing votes, it is a matter of accountability. Obviously, someone in that office is incapable of performing their duties.

One vote ? 30 Votes ? Imagine if it was your candidate who was losing votes. Remember the last two elections ? Imagine your candidate going to down to the wire with the other guy, and all of the missing votes spread throughout the nation.

Do everyone a favor and keep your bias out of the column. Why not report on the disaster the voting system that is in place has become ? Isn't that more important than attempting to smear a candidate running for office ?

Ron Paul stands for you. Did you know this ? Not big government, not the rest of the world, but for you and your rights as an American citizen.

Wake up.

 

[Ozwest]

My opinion for what it's worth:

The American Political system, including media, and counting of ballots, is farsical, and the so called "greatest democracy" is a joke.

And the worst... Americans are lazy fucks, who don't give a shit.

 

[Ozwest]

Am I wrong?

 

[USAF Vet Dan]

Where'd the 4,991 come from?

the article conveniently forgot to mention that Ron Paul was shorted a total of 4991 votes, not just the 31 votes mentioned, placing him 4th ahead of giuliani and only 2% behind huckabee.

Obama got ripped too....he conveniently forgot to mention that in his article.

and the diebold machines......he forgot to mention that the numbers on those can be completely hacked, so who really knows what the vote is, unless hand counted paper ballots are used, which will not happen in most all the other states.

Pardon my ignorance, but where did the 4,991 number come from? I keep hearing about the 31 votes as well as another small number - thus far I've concluded that these were two isolated incidents. But 4,991 is a huge number in that it would move RP up significantly enough to fuel his bid for the next states.

 

[Molly1]

I just emailed this clown:


Mr Duckler

Your article on "Paul supporters 'freak out' town clerk" is typical. Another Journalist letting their political beliefs get in the way of fair reporting has become an epidemic.

The comments of "...believers in more conspiracy theories than Oliver Stone." and "...Paul actually got a whopping 31 votes" are in poor taste.

This is not a matter of Ron Paul losing votes, it is a matter of accountability. Obviously, someone in that office is incapable of performing their duties.

One vote ? 30 Votes ? Imagine if it was your candidate who was losing votes. Remember the last two elections ? Imagine your candidate going to down to the wire with the other guy, and all of the missing votes spread throughout the nation.

Do everyone a favor and keep your bias out of the column. Why not report on the disaster the voting system that is in place has become ? Isn't that more important than attempting to smear a candidate running for office ?

Ron Paul stands for you. Did you know this ? Not big government, not the rest of the world, but for you and your rights as an American citizen.

Wake up.

"Ron Paul stands for you"


Excellent letter!

 

[Molly1]

Am I wrong?

well I think that's why we're all working so hard.

 

[USAF Vet Dan]

When people think the world is out to get them, they already are their own worst enemy.

The problem is, a pretty big portion of our world is against us! ...the result of years of gradualistic brainwashing of the masses by the MSM, educational system, etc.

 

[Molly1]

Pardon my ignorance, but where did the 4,991 number come from? I keep hearing about the 31 votes as well as another small number - thus far I've concluded that these were two isolated incidents. But 4,991 is a huge number in that it would move RP up significantly enough to fuel his bid for the next states.

That's not a real number. That's a number that pops out when you are doing the analysis of the differential between hand count and diebold. He did 2%+ more poorly on diebold than on hand count.

 

[propanes]

Good letter, TSOL. The only thing worth adding is the 31 missing votes are about 10% of the Republican ballots.

 

[Dave Pedersen]

For what its worth, this is what I sent to Ray at the Concord Monitor:



While we all need to keep our heads, under these circumstances it becomes impossible for everyone to agree on what should be done. When is it time for "peaceful civil disobedience"? We have all been kicked around pretty hard so far. Some people have more tolerance for it than others. It has become a divisive issue and that divisiveness is as much our enemy as the media propagandists, vote thieves, and other dirty tricksters. While we cannot do much about them, we can control divisiveness. Let's not be our own worst enemy.

That video says that guy appeared in two different states. That is not true both times he was part of the NH group. That is not to say Frank did nothing wrong but we cannot afford to use untrue elements to bolster our already valid proofs of journalistic deception.

Unfortunately the utility of that video has been compromised by the inclusion of that false statement.

 

[Molly1]

Good letter, TSOL. The only thing worth adding is the 31 missing votes are about 10% of the Republican ballots.

yeah and tell him if he thinks that's inconsequential, to send a whopping 10 percent of his salary to me.

 

[Ozwest]

well I think that's why we're all working so hard.

I believe you, and I believed it when I donated Aussie dollars, but you know what, there are too many slack bastards.

Where's the hudspah?

 

[Molly1]

I believe you, and I believed it when I donated Aussie dollars, but you know what, there are too many slack bastards.

Where's the hudspah?

we're getting the whole state recounted (I hope), so that's a good start.

that's not an easy thing to do.

 

[Ozwest]

we're getting the whole state recounted (I hope), so that's a good start.

that's not an easy thing to do.

I don't mean to trash good people such as yourself, but I'm glad I have a new country. You guys are fucked, and so are the rest of us.

I'm watching, and overwhelmed.

 

[CJP]

I don't think you quiet get it yet do you WE FUCKING CARE, every vote must be counted, whether it is fraud they should be jailed, if it is incompetance they must be fired. Don't know about you but I demand that my vote is counted, I don't want some idiot telling me it doesn't count because they are criminals or retards, and sure as hell i don't want to hear some other clown telling me that she is justified in not counting our votes!

If someone were trying to defraud us out of something that mattered, we should demand justice. But we need to take a reality check before we act. Why would anyone want to drop a measly 31 votes on purpose? It doesn't change anything.

This has all the hallmarks of an honest error. Humans are not machines and mistakes happen. It happens in even the cleanest election. When the mistakes are large enough to affect the outcome or even a half percentage point, it should be addressed. That's why we have corrections and recounts. When the mistake is too small to make even a fraction of a percent difference (much less affect the outcome), there is no reason at all to make a big deal about it. The fact that small mistakes can and will happen does not violate the integrity of the process.

This is the reasonable assessment of the situation.

Once you have reasonably assessed the situation, how do you act? Simple, since we are not dealing with real injustice or an affront to a worthy principle, etc., you simply act in the best interest of the campaign and the movement. That means you don't make enemies and turn people off for nothing.

Unfortunately, the virtue of resonableness, moderation, and civility are lost on too many of our "supporters."

I stand by my statements. You fanatics out there need to grow up.

 

[j6p]

To tell you the truth that clerk needs to be sued.