Paul says stopping Hillary Clinton is reason to vote for Donald Trump

fcreature said:
Yea, it's probably one of the only reasons.

The way I see it is if you live in a swing state you have a really good reason to vote for him.
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I live in a swing state and I plan on taking Rand Paul's advice: "If you want to send a message to both parties, voting third party is a way to do that."
 
dannno said:
Luckily, I own stock in fuses.
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Even better, I sold all my precious metals and bought stock in razors cos no matter who wins in Nov, the street will be awash with the blood of political sinners. Blood will be coming out of their nose, their wrists, their mouths and their "whatevers" and my razor stock will rise as fast as the dick of a 12 yr old seeing playboy for the 1st time.

Idiots taken out of the gene pool and my account fills up, talk about a win win situation.
 
CaptUSA said:
Once again, Rand does the right thing. "I signed a pledge saying I'd support the Republican nominee, whoever that was." And then criticizes Hillary.

He is smart to refrain from using the name, "Trump" when speaking about endorsements. Just refers to him as "the nominee". He's working hard to make sure there is no clip of him saying, "I support Donald Trump" And then he goes on to say, "Voting third party is one way of sending a message to both parties."

My sense is that Rand will come out of 2016, better than he did after endorsing Romney.

But you gotta love how the link in the OP and the clip titles insert phrases that were not uttered.
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Especially since I thought this subject was already covered.
 
CaptUSA said:
I live in a swing state and I plan on taking Rand Paul's advice: "If you want to send a message to both parties, voting third party is a way to do that."
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LOL... stop fantasizing.. right after that he said there is a fear that Johnson could syphon off votes from Trump and Hillary could win. He clearly is supporting Trump, he said he had his disagreements with him but at the end of the day he thinks the most important thing is to be enthusiastic about keeping Hillary out of the White House by voting for Trump. He does think voting for Johnson is acceptable way to rebuff the two party system for those who refuse to vote for Trump, but he doesn't think it is the best strategy at this time.
 
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dannno said:
LOL... stop fantasizing.. right after that he said there is a fear that Johnson could syphon off votes from Trump and Hillary could win. He clearly is supporting Trump, he said he had his disagreements with him but at the end of the day he thinks the most important thing is to be enthusiastic about keeping Hillary out of the White House by voting for Trump. He does think voting for Johnson is acceptable way to rebuff the two party system for those who refuse to vote for Trump, but he doesn't think it is the best strategy at this time.
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Lol - Trust me... My vote is not being siphoned from Trump.



And he is clearly supporting the Republican nominee. There is a big difference there.
 
Giving the pro forma endorsement to the nominee is the conventionally prudent thing to do, but I think it's a blunder this year.

Trump is going down one way or another: either by losing the election (extremely likely) or by making an ass of himself for 4 years in office.

And anyone associated with this dumpster fire is going to suffer for it.

There was a great opportunity for Rand to take leadership of the NeverTrump Republicans.

Cruz did instead, and now I'm afraid he's going to eat our lunch in 2020.
 
CPUd said:
Trump is a big government authoritarian who conned his way into the GOP nomination. He has absolutely nothing in common with Rand other than their party label, whose standard bearer Rand has pledged since day 1 to support.
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Trump didn't con the voters, he capitalised on the already present desire to reject the Republican establishment. Republican voters are tired of being told to support losers like McCain and Romney. Trump has never held a political office and he has successfully sold his position that he opposes the established politicians. That doesn't mean that all of the voters think he is a great conservative or anything of the sort, but rather a more desirable alternative to Jeb! and company.
 
r3volution 3.0 said:
Giving the pro forma endorsement to the nominee is the conventionally prudent thing to do, but I think it's a blunder this year.

Trump is going down one way or another: either by losing the election (extremely likely) or by making an ass of himself for 4 years in office.

And anyone associated with this dumpster fire is going to suffer for it.

There was a great opportunity for Rand to take leadership of the NeverTrump Republicans.

Cruz did instead, and now I'm afraid he's going to eat our lunch in 2020.
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What you are missing is that the NeverEstablismentPoliticians bloc is bigger than the NeverTrump bloc.

It really doesn't matter what kind of an ass Trump makes of himself as president, because the office already is a complete joke of disgrace. What president in your lifetime has not made an ass of himself in office?

Cruz has positioned himself in opposition of the majority of Republican voters that rejected all of the politicians that were running. You can let go of your fear because Cruz is seen mainly as a lying politician with no integrity, not some white knight politician.
 
CaptUSA said:
Lol - Trust me... My vote is not being siphoned from Trump.



And he is clearly supporting the Republican nominee. There is a big difference there.
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He said Trump's name like 10 times, you are being delusional. Ya, he avoided the soundbyte, but if you listen to what he said he thinks the best thing is to support Trump, but he respects those who wish to vote for Johnson, but he maintains it may be a mistake not to support Trump.

I'm still voting for Gary Johnson, but I'm not going to pretend Rand is secretly supporting GJ or trying to get people to vote for him, clearly he is reluctantly supporting Trump against Hillary.
 
I'm glad I deregistered. Now I don't have to fret over which corrupt idiot to cast a fake vote for. It's liberating to become simply an educated observer.
 
jmdrake said:
Seriously? You're kidding. Please quote a single post from anybody that expected Rand Paul not to endorse Donald Trump when Rand Paul endorsed Mitt Romney. Rand failed the "purity test" 4 years ago. Alex Jones, the best known person to publicly attack Rand for that decision, endorsed Trump while Rand was still in the race and despite Trump taking a fascist position on private property and eminent domain.
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You have to define "expected". Does that mean resigned to the knowledge that Rand had committed to it, or advocated for and hoped Rand would not endorse?
 
Cleaner44 said:
You can't, one of them will be our next president. Sorry but president Jeb! just isn't going to happen.
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I think Clinton is going to win. I can't see how she loses.

I wanted Paul then Johnson now. I never expected either to win. I would have accepted Jeb!

If there was a way to stop Clinton and Trump I would be all in for it.
 
Cleaner44 said:
Trump didn't con the voters, he capitalised on the already present desire to reject the Republican establishment. Republican voters are tired of being told to support losers like McCain and Romney. Trump has never held a political office and he has successfully sold his position that he opposes the established politicians. That doesn't mean that all of the voters think he is a great conservative or anything of the sort, but rather a more desirable alternative to Jeb! and company.
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People believe Trump is anti-establishment and gave him their support, I'd say that is a successful con.
 
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