Paul says stopping Hillary Clinton is reason to vote for Donald Trump

[twomp]

So why not support Rand/Trump?

See another stupid question. (Notice how I don't think you are playing dumb.) I support Rand Paul. I don't support Trump. Rand Paul like Priebus (in your example) is only just playing along. Paying lip service. Kind of like how Hilary Clinton all of a sudden now is against TPP. Same thing. Paying lip service. I know that this is all above your head because thinking is hard. No go back to playing with your play-doh.

 

[Occam's Banana]

I'm going to make a fair number of bizarre allegations (but allegations of which I have full confidence in), some allegations of which I'm sure some here are already wind to, like a Russian operation to help his dad and then Donald Trump get elected President, but before I conclusively make and prove such allegations I just want to wind people of the idea of completely abandoning the Pauls.

 

[Petar]

See another stupid question. (Notice how I don't think you are playing dumb.) I support Rand Paul. I don't support Trump. Rand Paul like Priebus (in your example) is only just playing along. Paying lip service. Kind of like how Hilary Clinton all of a sudden now is against TPP. Same thing. Paying lip service. I know that this is all above your head because thinking is hard. No go back to playing with your play-doh.

Maybe Rand is actually intelligent enough that he really means what he is saying about Trump. Thomas Massie is.

 

[juleswin]

Wow, so Trump was a real mover and shaker with all that money.

How does this all align with your "Donald Trump is actually not that rich and really bad at business" theory?

There is a story Ivanka likes to tell about his dad. It goes something like this, The Donald and Ivanka are walking out of their multi million dollar Trump plaza, they see a beggar begging for money. Ivanaka says to the dad, lets give some money to this poor man and Donald Trump says " you know, this beggar has more money than me".They give some money and walk away.

The moral of the story is, he was in debt up to his eyeballs.

 

[Cleaner44]

Which of them is still running for president?

Oh I get it... you are one of those people that thinks the whole process is set up from beginning to end and that the voters don't actually have a say so.

I disagree with that premise. While there certainly is cheating and rigging, the powers that be just don't have that complete control in reality. Mostly they use tools like the media to influence outcomes. When you know that both Hillary and Jeb! will play ball, it really doesn't matter which wins. This is why they were so threatened by Ron Paul because he doesn't play ball.

It seems as though you are saying that Trump is the choice of the Bilderberg Group and I feel confident in saying that Jeb! was there choice. They would have made been comfortable with Lindsey Graham or any of the others, but Trump is a different situation for them. He doesn't need there money and doesn't need to play ball. Now it is possible that once elected that Trump will play ball, but right now he makes them very nervous and they much prefer Hillary.

Make no mistake though, the voters do still have a voice in this country even though it gets heavily manipulated.

 

[CPUd]

Oh I get it... you are one of those people that thinks the whole process is set up from beginning to end and that the voters don't actually have a say so.

I disagree with that premise. While there certainly is cheating and rigging, the powers that be just don't have that complete control in reality. Mostly they use tools like the media to influence outcomes. When you know that both Hillary and Jeb! will play ball, it really doesn't matter which wins. This is why they were so threatened by Ron Paul because he doesn't play ball.

It seems as though you are saying that Trump is the choice of the Bilderberg Group and I feel confident in saying that Jeb! was there choice. They would have made been comfortable with Lindsey Graham or any of the others, but Trump is a different situation for them. He doesn't need there money and doesn't need to play ball. Now it is possible that once elected that Trump will play ball, but right now he makes them very nervous and they much prefer Hillary.

Make no mistake though, the voters do still have a voice in this country even though it gets heavily manipulated.

If he doesn't need their money, why does he have a finance chair from Goldman Sachs organizing fundraisers for him? They could have propped up Ted Cruz or even Kasich after Cruz won Wisconsin. They got on the Trump Train instead; it's clear he was willing to play ball.

 

[Petar]

If he doesn't need their money, why does he have a finance chair from Goldman Sachs organizing fundraisers for him? They could have propped up Ted Cruz or even Kasich after Cruz won Wisconsin. They got on the Trump Train instead; it's clear he was willing to play ball that Trump won the nomination despite all of the establishment's nonstop efforts to destroy him completely.

Life feels better when you aren't pathologically lying all the time.

 

[CPUd]

Life feels better when you aren't pathologically lying all the time.

How did "the establishment" try to stop the Trump Train? Was it when no one except Rand was calling him out for being a fake, or when he was getting 24/7 airtime?

 

[AuH20]

How did "the establishment" try to stop the Trump Train? Was it when no one except Rand was calling him out for being a fake, or when he was getting 24/7 airtime?

Did you watch any of the debates?

 

[parocks]

Giving the pro forma endorsement to the nominee is the conventionally prudent thing to do, but I think it's a blunder this year.

Trump is going down one way or another: either by losing the election (extremely likely) or by making an ass of himself for 4 years in office.

And anyone associated with this dumpster fire is going to suffer for it.

There was a great opportunity for Rand to take leadership of the NeverTrump Republicans.

Cruz did instead, and now I'm afraid he's going to eat our lunch in 2020.

Nope, the NeverTrump Republicans are led by Bill Kristol. They don't like Trump and they don't like Rand Paul.

It's a GOPe / RINO movement. The same exact people would be saying NeverPaul. Trump is the first non RINO / non GOPe Repbulcinan nominee since Reagan. And the same people were pissed in 1980 and in 1964 with Goldwater.

Trump's voters in the primary at least were the same voters that Rand Paul was competing for, the GOP voters who do not like the way things are going, the GOP voters who think we're definitely on the wrong track.

Rand Paul, and we, should want our people in there in the Trump administration. It's an opportunity to get rid of the GOPe - the forces that have stood in the way of the outsider, pissed off candidates can be rooted out, routed, and replaced by an assortment of the outsiders, and the Liberty minded ones would have a seat at the table.

Hillary is so awful. She's a Stalinist. We really have no idea about Trump. I think Miss Teen USA. With Hillary, it's "why isn't she in jail"?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Nope, the NeverTrump Republicans are led by Bill Kristol. They don't like Trump and they don't like Rand Paul.

Nah, I don't know what makes you think that. Prominent neocons were calling themselves NeverTrump, but most rank-and-file GOP NeverTrumpers out in the real world are conservative/libertarian types. They like both Cruz and Rand, for instance. The kind of people who frequent The Blaze or Daily Caller, or who used to frequent Breitbart before it became Trump Central: i.e. exactly the people libertarians need to bring in to our coalition to win future elections.

...though now, since Cruz prudently non-endorsed Trump, these people largely look to him for leadership.

Hence our dilemma.

 

[AuH20]

Nope, the NeverTrump Republicans are led by Bill Kristol. They don't like Trump and they don't like Rand Paul.

It's a GOPe / RINO movement. The same exact people would be saying NeverPaul. Trump is the first non RINO / non GOPe Repbulcinan nominee since Reagan. And the same people were pissed in 1980 and in 1964 with Goldwater.

Trump's voters in the primary at least were the same voters that Rand Paul was competing for, the GOP voters who do not like the way things are going, the GOP voters who think we're definitely on the wrong track.

Rand Paul, and we, should want our people in there in the Trump administration. It's an opportunity to get rid of the GOPe - the forces that have stood in the way of the outsider, pissed off candidates can be rooted out, routed, and replaced by an assortment of the outsiders, and the Liberty minded ones would have a seat at the table.

Hillary is so awful. She's a Stalinist. We really have no idea about Trump. I think Miss Teen USA. With Hillary, it's "why isn't she in jail"?

Don't forget these guys as well. Empire defending so cons. Ugh.

In fact, Beck is so indebted to his Mormon CIA circle that he gave that McMullin guy an extensive interview:

 

[CPUd]

Nope, the NeverTrump Republicans are led by Bill Kristol. They don't like Trump and they don't like Rand Paul.

It's a GOPe / RINO movement. The same exact people would be saying NeverPaul. Trump is the first non RINO / non GOPe Repbulcinan nominee since Reagan. And the same people were pissed in 1980 and in 1964 with Goldwater.

Trump's voters in the primary at least were the same voters that Rand Paul was competing for, the GOP voters who do not like the way things are going, the GOP voters who think we're definitely on the wrong track.

Rand Paul, and we, should want our people in there in the Trump administration. It's an opportunity to get rid of the GOPe - the forces that have stood in the way of the outsider, pissed off candidates can be rooted out, routed, and replaced by an assortment of the outsiders, and the Liberty minded ones would have a seat at the table.

Hillary is so awful. She's a Stalinist. We really have no idea about Trump. I think Miss Teen USA. With Hillary, it's "why isn't she in jail"?

Trump has already said he would bring these people to the WH if he won:

Mike Pence, Rudy Guiliani, Chris Christie, Michele Bachmann, Tom Cotton, Steve Mnuchin

 

[parocks]

Oh I get it... you are one of those people that thinks the whole process is set up from beginning to end and that the voters don't actually have a say so.

I disagree with that premise. While there certainly is cheating and rigging, the powers that be just don't have that complete control in reality. Mostly they use tools like the media to influence outcomes. When you know that both Hillary and Jeb! will play ball, it really doesn't matter which wins. This is why they were so threatened by Ron Paul because he doesn't play ball.

It seems as though you are saying that Trump is the choice of the Bilderberg Group and I feel confident in saying that Jeb! was there choice. They would have made been comfortable with Lindsey Graham or any of the others, but Trump is a different situation for them. He doesn't need there money and doesn't need to play ball. Now it is possible that once elected that Trump will play ball, but right now he makes them very nervous and they much prefer Hillary.

Make no mistake though, the voters do still have a voice in this country even though it gets heavily manipulated.

You sound reasonable.

The handful of people in charge are getting very very picky about what kinds of President they find acceptable. They certainly wanted Clinton v Bush. Trump was more acceptable than Rand Paul, and when Paul was dispatched, they guessed that Trump would fold, and Bush would take it. But Trump didn't fold. And now we're at Clinton v Trump, one who is fully 100% acceptable, and the other who is not 100% acceptable. So, non stop attacks on Trump.

Some have this theory that anything that isn't Ron Paul (maybe not even Rand Paul) is virtually identical, that there are no differences between the 2 candidates. With Romney, the 2 were awfully close. With Trump, they're not close. Hillary is an evil Stalinist who should be in jail for a long time. You never hear about people who are pissing Obama off ending up dead. You do with Hillary, a lot, and you did when Bill was President. The Clintons are psychopaths. We disagree on policy with Obama, but there's little sense of a reign of terror. Trump's an actor, who really doesn't have the means at his disposal to be some sort of authoritarian Dictator. He has no idea what he's doing. He pretends to be a tough guy because polls indicate that's the way he should act. Hillary is a dictator, you don't see bodies piling up around Trump. Trump could be another Carter, by himself, isolated. But it's Hillary who is directly taking instruction from Soros, as the leaked emails indicate. Rothschild gave Soros most of the money he started his investment career with in the 1960s. Rothschild to Soros to Clinton, and Clinton is a psychopath who appears to be losing her mind. Bribery, blackmail, threats, murder - that's Hillary Clinton. Trump is a tv star and a real estate developer. The worst thing about him is that he didn't have the good sense in the past to steer clear of Hillary Clinton. That doesn't make him anywhere near as bad as Clinton. And the word noises coming out of his mouth sometimes sound good. He's at least making anti war word noises with his mouth. I mean, if you're old enough you know that you're got ever getting anything good - it's always getting worse - but Hillary is evil, and Trump might just be buffoon.

 

[parocks]

Trump has already said he would bring these people to the WH if he won:

Mike Pence, Rudy Guiliani, Chris Christie, Michele Bachmann, Tom Cotton, Steve Mnuchin

The liberty folks need their seat at the table. Jeb Bush isn't there, and he's the worst.

 

[parocks]

Maybe Rand is actually intelligent enough that he really means what he is saying about Trump. Thomas Massie is.

Isn't Rand Paul saying something similar to "Hillary Clinton might be the worst human being on the planet, so vote for Trump"?

And we're questioning Rand's sincerity? Anyone who is paying attention should realize that Hillary Clinton is an absolutely awful human being - scum of the earth. And people doubt that?

 

[parocks]

I think Clinton is going to win. I can't see how she loses.

I wanted Paul then Johnson now. I never expected either to win. I would have accepted Jeb!

If there was a way to stop Clinton and Trump I would be all in for it.

Bush and Clinton are completely unacceptable.

 

[AuH20]

Bush and Clinton are completely unacceptable.

Amen. As long as a Bush or Clinton is not sworn in, I have done my job on this planet. I hate being the guardian angel for the sheep.

 

[CPUd]

Isn't Rand Paul saying something similar to "Hillary Clinton might be the worst human being on the planet, so vote for Trump"?

And we're questioning Rand's sincerity? Anyone who is paying attention should realize that Hillary Clinton is an absolutely awful human being - scum of the earth. And people doubt that?

I don't see anyone questioning Rand's sincerity. He's saying the same things he has said since day 1.

 

[CPUd]

Amen. As long as a Bush or Clinton is not sworn in, I have done my job on this planet. I hate being the guardian angel for the sheep.

Quoted for posterity.