Paul says stopping Hillary Clinton is reason to vote for Donald Trump

You sound reasonable.

The handful of people in charge are getting very very picky about what kinds of President they find acceptable. They certainly wanted Clinton v Bush. Trump was more acceptable than Rand Paul, and when Paul was dispatched, they guessed that Trump would fold, and Bush would take it. But Trump didn't fold. And now we're at Clinton v Trump, one who is fully 100% acceptable, and the other who is not 100% acceptable. So, non stop attacks on Trump.

Some have this theory that anything that isn't Ron Paul (maybe not even Rand Paul) is virtually identical, that there are no differences between the 2 candidates. With Romney, the 2 were awfully close. With Trump, they're not close. Hillary is an evil Stalinist who should be in jail for a long time. You never hear about people who are pissing Obama off ending up dead. You do with Hillary, a lot, and you did when Bill was President. The Clintons are psychopaths. We disagree on policy with Obama, but there's little sense of a reign of terror. Trump's an actor, who really doesn't have the means at his disposal to be some sort of authoritarian Dictator. He has no idea what he's doing. He pretends to be a tough guy because polls indicate that's the way he should act. Hillary is a dictator, you don't see bodies piling up around Trump. Trump could be another Carter, by himself, isolated. But it's Hillary who is directly taking instruction from Soros, as the leaked emails indicate. Rothschild gave Soros most of the money he started his investment career with in the 1960s. Rothschild to Soros to Clinton, and Clinton is a psychopath who appears to be losing her mind. Bribery, blackmail, threats, murder - that's Hillary Clinton. Trump is a tv star and a real estate developer. The worst thing about him is that he didn't have the good sense in the past to steer clear of Hillary Clinton. That doesn't make him anywhere near as bad as Clinton. And the word noises coming out of his mouth sometimes sound good. He's at least making anti war word noises with his mouth. I mean, if you're old enough you know that you're got ever getting anything good - it's always getting worse - but Hillary is evil, and Trump might just be buffoon.

You sir are a sensible person. I find your evaluation to be spot on.
 
If he doesn't need their money, why does he have a finance chair from Goldman Sachs organizing fundraisers for him? They could have propped up Ted Cruz or even Kasich after Cruz won Wisconsin. They got on the Trump Train instead; it's clear he was willing to play ball.

You are utterly mad if you think that the Bilderberg establishment goons wanted Trump instead of Kasich. There really is nothing left to say to you except please stop with your spam threads and get a real job.
 
You are utterly mad if you think that the Bilderberg establishment goons wanted Trump instead of Kasich. There really is nothing left to say to you except please stop with your spam threads and get a real job.

Kasich wanted to be their guy so badly and they forced him out of the race to help Trump take majorities in the remaining states.
 
Kasich wanted to be their guy so badly and they forced him out of the race to help Trump take majorities in the remaining states.

I can't help but notice that you keep talking even when you have nothing useful to say...

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Maybe Rand is actually intelligent enough that he really means what he is saying about Trump. Thomas Massie is.

Rand Paul and Priebus would be supporting anyone who was the GOP nominee. If Hillary Clinton was the GOP nominee and Trump was the Dem nominee, then Rand Paul and Priebus would be supporting Clinton. It doesn't matter the person, it matters the letter behind their name. Get it? Probably not. Trump supporters should stick to topics they know about and "intelligence" isn't one of those topics.
 


There is a story Ivanka likes to tell about his dad. It goes something like this, The Donald and Ivanka are walking out of their multi million dollar Trump plaza, they see a beggar begging for money. Ivanaka says to the dad, lets give some money to this poor man and Donald Trump says " you know, this beggar has more money than me".They give some money and walk away.

The moral of the story is, he was in debt up to his eyeballs.


Actually, what that story means is that Donald Trump, the man, doesn't own anything. Nothing at all is in his legal possession. He, the man, is dead broke. By design too. The corporation he controls has assets though and he uses them while not owning them. He owns the stock in the corp, not the assets of the corp. Big difference, yes? His corp may have been eyeballs deep in debt but the man was not. Capiche?

To paraphrase a Rockefeller: "The secret to being rich is to own nothing but control everything."
 
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Actually, what that story means is that Donald Trump, the man, doesn't own anything. Nothing at all is in his legal possession. He, the man, is dead broke. By design too. The corporation he controls has assets though and he uses them while not owning them. He owns the stock in the corp, not the assets of the corp. Big difference, yes? His corp may have been eyeballs deep in debt but the man was not. Capiche?

To paraphrase a Rockefeller: "The secret to being rich is to own nothing but control everything."

Profits are no longer important http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?498454-Profits-are-no-longer-important
 
Spin it all you want, Rand will support Trump because he knows with Trump in office he can get more stuff done in the Senate, even Trump at one point said Rand will be useful in the Senate, because after he dropped out the attacks stopped. Rand should have made a speech at the RNC not Cruz.

And now to address the RPF crowd, Rand is in the political arena right now, he has to fight for what is right....Ron is not in the arena anymore, he is like a retired gladiator.
So who's voice has more weight the guy actually in there getting bruised and cut by the new fighters, or the guy sitting at home remembering how it used to be when he fought the good fight.
Rand addresses a very important point you can go and vote third party, but that won't stop Clinton, thus you aren't helping America RIGHT NOW, sending a message to make yourself feel better helps YOU, not America.

So do you really stand with Rand ?
 
Spin it all you want, Rand will support Trump because he knows with Trump in office he can get more stuff done in the Senate, even Trump at one point said Rand will be useful in the Senate, because after he dropped out the attacks stopped. Rand should have made a speech at the RNC not Cruz.

And now to address the RPF crowd, Rand is in the political arena right now, he has to fight for what is right....Ron is not in the arena anymore, he is like a retired gladiator.
So who's voice has more weight the guy actually in there getting bruised and cut by the new fighters, or the guy sitting at home remembering how it used to be when he fought the good fight.
Rand addresses a very important point you can go and vote third party, but that won't stop Clinton, thus you aren't helping America RIGHT NOW, sending a message to make yourself feel better helps YOU, not America.
...is keeping his pledge to support the nominee and doesn't want Hillary.
So do you really stand with Rand ?

So, did you vote for Romney because Rand endorsed him?!! I mean, Rand even went so far as to endorse Romney by name and even endorsed some of his policies...
 
A lot fuses will be blown today.

Not mine. I've been trying to tell you all that Rand wasn't a principled politician for a while now. He would sell himself for a position in the party. When "Stand With Rand" became more of a personality cult than standing by someone who would not endorse the violation of human liberty in order to maintain his political influence and power, then "Stand With Rand" is meaningless and pointless, just anoth way to co-opt your thinking and make you subservient to the government machine.
 
I'll have to think about this, having not cast a "lesser of two evils vote" in 20 years now or so.

But I am beginning to think that may end up being the case here.

I am in an "extraction" industry, which Killery has openly stated her hostility toward.

I am a gun owner, which Killery has openly stated her hostility toward.

I had no qualms about sticking to my guns under Obama, because at the end of the day, I considered him to be mostly weak and ineffectual, following a slightly modified program of Bush 2.0

But this fucking broad is poison.
 
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I'll have to think about this, having not cast a "lesser of two evils vote" in 20 years now or so.

But I am beginning to think that may end up being the case here.

I am in an "extraction" industry, which Killery has openly stated her hostility toward.

I am a gun owner, which Killery has openly stated her hostility toward.

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You are utterly mad if you think that the Bilderberg establishment goons wanted Trump instead of Kasich. There really is nothing left to say to you except please stop with your spam threads and get a real job.

Like others already, unabashed criticisms as well... Americans simply don't speak in this manner online. They get angry, mad and critical, just not the way you do.
 
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