Paul-McCain Debate

[acptulsa]

...he has the platform to call it out at every occasion!

We need to teach the doctor how to spin things:

"In the early primaries, G.O.P. voters choosing among the four conservatives outnumbered those choosing among the two moderates by over two to one. That's a lot of Republican conservatives who feel disenfranchised. In the interests of party unity, I feel it would be helpful if we, the two candidiates in the party who are still standing, had a frank and honest discussion of the issues so conservatives will know where they stand in the eyes of the presumptive nominee..."

 

[Bruno]

Ok people, use some common sense here. Can you remember all the way back to like 2 months ago when that little puke stick that wanted RP's congress seat kept calling him a coward for not debating? Every single one of you said "There is no reason for him to debate, he's doing the right thing by saying no. He's not a coward, just smart". And now, you think that McCain's supporters, and indeed, the entire American publik, won't have exactly the same response for you?

Paul wouldn't have to go negative. He could simply float it out there..

Interviewer: "So, why haven't you quit the race yet? McCain is the nominee."
Paul: "Well, the convention is months away, so there is still plenty of time."
Interviewer: "But won't you support him if he is the nominee?"
Paul: "He would have to change his views on the war, monetary policy, economic policy, etc. before I would do that."
Interviewer: "Do you see him doing that?"
Paul: "Not really, but we have never been given the opportunity in all those debates to talk about issues of substance. If McCain would like to do that sometime, I would be glad to join him in a Lincoln-Douglas debate such as Clinton proposed to Obama. It would help conservative Americans see where he stands on Republican principles."

Bam!

Headline: Paul challenges McCain to Lincoln-Douglas debate

 

[slacker921]

We need to teach the doctor how to spin things:

"In the early primaries, G.O.P. voters choosing among the four conservatives outnumbered those choosing among the two moderates by over two to one. That's a lot of Republican conservatives who feel disenfranchised. In the interests of party unity, I feel it would be helpful if we, the two candidiates in the party who are still standing, had a frank and honest discussion of the issues so conservatives will know where they stand in the eyes of the presumptive nominee..."

It could also be pointed to the GOP.. let's sit down and talk about Republican values..

I don't see it happening though. At this point McCain has to uphold the image that he has it all locked up. If that facade shows a crack (like.. oh... a state convention that gets shut down because he's losing..) then he has to campaign to hold the nomination and it's a HUGE opening for the Democrats to take him down. Anything he might do that can be construed as still fighting for the nomination or support of his party is a major step backwards -- so no way he'd debate with Paul one on one.

Now.. if a news network wanted to really see some ratings and really see the sparks fly... they'd have a debate with Obama, Clinton, Paul, and McCain and ensure equal time. Now that would be a wild one and they'd get major ratings. (unfortunately it won't happen)

 

[pcosmar]

McCain would never be stupid enough to debate Paul. I can't see it happening.

I believe that McCain IS stupid enough.
Unfortunately his handlers aren't, they would never allow it.

I would love to see it though.

 

[acptulsa]

Ever see the movie Head of State? Sell the debate as a discussion of Republican values and a way to ensure that the G.O.P. conservatives who split their votes among too many candidates aren't disenfranchised, and it becomes an easy sell to everyone but McCain and his handlers--and if we sell it well enough, they'll feel the pressure...

 

[[email protected]]

The people McCain answers to are too smart to let that dumbass debate RP.

 

[Crickett]

LOL this is what I said MONTHS ago and was laughed off the forum. I figured a real challenge to the other candidates would be a win-win. I think he should challenge Hillary and Obama, too and ask if they are too chicken to debate him. The thing I was told is that none of them have any reason to debate him because they are so far ahead of him. But I thought it was a great idea as then he can say they are all afraid of him..

 

[VRP08]

What a cool idea! I wonder if Dr. Paul would go for that. McCain probably wouldn't do it because he knows that he is clueless!

But I would LOVE for that to happen!!

 

[thrillhouse]

Since a paul - mccain debate is unlikely at all, let me propose this - how about some four way action with all the remaining presidential hopefuls?

Hillary and Obama would want to prove to their respective parties that they could go toe to toe with the presumptive republican nominee. McCain would get a chance to make points against the democrats while they still have to toe the party line. Paul would get his chance to spread his message to a much wider audience that includes independants and liberals.

Could this happen or am i dreaming?

 

[armstrong]

Highly unlikely , but I would love it

 

[tonyr1988]

Ok people, use some common sense here. Can you remember all the way back to like 2 months ago when that little puke stick that wanted RP's congress seat kept calling him a coward for not debating? Every single one of you said "There is no reason for him to debate, he's doing the right thing by saying no. He's not a coward, just smart". And now, you think that McCain's supporters, and indeed, the entire American publik, won't have exactly the same response for you?

EXACTLY what I was thinking.

It's politically retarded to engage in a 1-on-1 debate when you're ahead of the other guy.

Paul just needs to keep talking about how the 3 guys left are all the same, principle > party, etc...

 

[VRP08]

Since a paul - mccain debate is unlikely at all, let me propose this - how about some four way action with all the remaining presidential hopefuls?

Hillary and Obama would want to prove to their respective parties that they could go toe to toe with the presumptive republican nominee. McCain would get a chance to make points against the democrats while they still have to toe the party line. Paul would get his chance to spread his message to a much wider audience that includes independants and liberals.

Could this happen or am i dreaming?

I like that idea!

 

[Vet_from_cali]

wont happen, mccain would get owned, and he knows it.

 

[Bruno]

wont happen, mccain would get owned, and he knows it.

EXACTLY what I was thinking.

It's politically retarded to engage in a 1-on-1 debate when you're ahead of the other guy.

Paul just needs to keep talking about how the 3 guys left are all the same, principle > party, etc...

I think you are missing the larger point.

It needed actually have to occur, it would just be a good PR opportunity to call McCain out. McCain can say no all he wants. It could get people talking.

 

[heartless]

bump

 

[TruthAtLast]

McCain would never be stupid enough to debate Paul. I can't see it happening.

i agree. he would never do it. But just Paul challenging him and McCain refusing makes him look scared.

McCain: "I've won the nomination, the debates are over. why would I debate someone who's lost."

Ron Paul: "Last I checked, I believe it is April... not September. McCain is the presumptive nominee but is vastly out of step with the Republican party. Pennsylvania proved that. If he is so confident that he is the best candidate to represent this great party, then he should have no problem debating the real issues facing our country since he has yet to do it this election cycle. McCain has been running from me since the first debate and even with the nomination apparently in the bag he is still running from me. What is he so afraid of?"

If Ron Paul said that, my wallet would open up immediately. Ron Paul would raise another few million dollars overnight. We have momentum and new energy right now.

 

[Bruno]

i agree. he would never do it. But just Paul challenging him and McCain refusing makes him look scared.

McCain: "I've won the nomination, the debates are over. why would I debate someone who's lost."

Ron Paul: "Last I checked, I believe it is April... not September. McCain is the presumptive nominee but is vastly out of step with the Republican party. Pennsylvania proved that. If he is so confident that he is the best candidate to represent this great party, then he should have no problem debating the real issues facing our country since he has yet to do it this election cycle. McCain has been running from me since the first debate and even with the nomination apparently in the bag he is still running from me. What is he so afraid of?"

If Ron Paul said that, my wallet would open up immediately. Ron Paul would raise another few million dollars overnight. We have momentum and new energy right now.

Ding, ding, ding!

It wouldn't cost a cent from the $5 million less, either. Words over free air space given to you while you sell your book are, in this case, "priceless".

More awareness in the remaining states and the nation as a whole who Ron is and why he is still in it for the sake of our freedoms.

 

[Joseph Hart]

To win at this whole debate challenge. Ron Paul should atleast say he would like to debate again. A yes or no from mccain, Ron Paul will look good.

 

[acptulsa]

To win at this whole debate challenge. Ron Paul should atleast say he would like to debate again. A yes or no from mccain, Ron Paul will look good.

That's the key. He only needs to say it once, really--no need to beg. We'll do the rest!

 

[LiveToWin]

McCain wont accept the debate, But I fully support this.