PAUL / JOHNSON 2012

RickyJ said:
No, Ron never said that.
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He said he couldn't conceive of it. I remember those specific words. And perhaps he couldn't conceive of the RNC and GOP being fascist and corrupt to break rules and bones . I don't know. He hasn't said. I hope he DOES run, either as Gary Johnson's running mate or part of his cabinet, and that we can manage to get the message out to even more people. I'd vote for him no matter what he ran as. We need more like him.
 
Smitty said:
Such as endorsing Romney?

Give me a giant economy sized break on the "Rand is anti establishment" routine.
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Rand endorsed Ron Paul in the primary, that's when endorsements matter. Endorsing Ron Paul in the primary is anti-establishment.
 
Smitty said:
Mitt must have sold him on the wisdom of flip flopping for political gain.
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Rand did not flop, he is a man of principle. Rand endorsed Ron in the primary and promised to endorse the eventual GOP nominee in the general. Rand keeps his promises and does not flip-flop from one party to another like Ron Paul does. It's your fault that Rand endorsed Romney, you didn't do enough to help Ron win the Iowa straw poll and caucus.
 
nobody's_hero said:
I don't say this as someone who is defending the Libertarian party, campaigning for them, or someone who says this egotistically,

but.

It isn't really fair to the Libertarians who went through the process of nominating Gary Johnson and Judge Jim Gray to suddenly rush back to the LP and expect them to toss out/rearrange their nominees.

The Libertarians held a fair nominating convention.

The GOP did not.

Just consider my point, please.

I would happily vote libertarian at this point, with their current nominees. There *can* always be a place for Ron Paul in a Libertarian administration. The problem is, Ron Paul is right on pretty much everything, so would you put him as Sec. of State? or Treasury?, or Homeland Security?, etc. etc. etcetera, lol.
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Ron Paul would bring SO MUCH CLOUT to the Libertarian Party that it would be worth it, imo.
 
Galileo Galilei said:
Rand did not flop, he is a man of principle. Rand endorsed Ron in the primary and promised to endorse the eventual GOP nominee in the general. Rand keeps his promises and does not flip-flop from one party to another like Ron Paul does. It's your fault that Rand endorsed Romney, you didn't do enough to help Ron win the Iowa straw poll and caucus.
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When Ron ran as a Libertarian in 1988, he remained in the GOP.
 
Galileo Galilei said:
He got a life membership in the LP in 1987. He quit the GOP after he lost the GOP senate primary in 1984.
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Okay, I'm reading conflicting information on this. I guess it doesn't really matter that much. Ron Paul is definitely of the opinion that there isn't much difference between the red team and the blue team, though. Hehehe.
 
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Smitty said:
Spell it out.

What are you saying about Dr. Paul?
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Ron Paul started out in the GOP in 1974, then went to the LP in 1988, then went back to the GOP in 1996, then in 2008 endorsed the Constitution Party candidate for president. So when he ran for president in 2011/2012 the media kept asking him if he would support the eventual GOP nominee and he never said 'yes'. Hence, he lost the Iowa straw poll by 1.5% and the Iowa caucus by 3.5% effectively ending his real chance to win the nomination.

Rand Paul sticks to a consistent party strategy, that's why he's gonna win in 2016. Rand has the best pro-liberty voting record in the US Senate since prior to the Civil War.

The real endorsements that count are in the primaries.
 
eff said:
Johnson/Paul
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I can't imagine that is ever going to happen. Johnson doesn't poll to get into the debates and Ron does, and the whole purpose would be to get Ron in the debates with Obama and Romney.
 
Ah, too bad for Rand. If his Daddy runs as a Libertarian (a girl can dream), the stuffy old R Party will be yesterday's news. Rand will wish he were a Libertarian.

Take 'em down, Ron.
 
Galileo Galilei said:
Ron Paul started out in the GOP in 1974, then went to the LP in 1988, then went back to the GOP in 1996, then in 2008 endorsed the Constitution Party candidate for president. So when he ran for president in 2011/2012 the media kept asking him if he would support the eventual GOP nominee and he never said 'yes'. Hence, he lost the Iowa straw poll by 1.5% and the Iowa caucus by 3.5% effectively ending his real chance to win the nomination.

Rand Paul sticks to a consistent party strategy, that's why he's gonna win in 2016. Rand has the best pro-liberty voting record in the US Senate since prior to the Civil War.

The real endorsements that count are in the primaries.
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that may be why the GOP machine will support him if he catches on, but there are a lot of candidates who do that, and their poll numbers careened widely in the race. Ron's didn't.

In any event, Ron got enough states to file to put him into nomination, and then they changed the rules to move the goal posts. In the general election we would just be going straight Ron Paul.
 
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