Paul didn't make debate because DMR poll was only released today instead of Monday

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Rand Paul appears to be a victim of bad timing.

The Kentucky senator has failed to catch fire like some of his other fellow GOP presidential candidates, but Fox Business Network’s decision to boot him for the first time off the main stage at Thursday night’s debate in South Carolina was a potential knockout punch for his flailing candidacy.

The network made that decision based on Paul’s standing in public polls. Fox Business had said last month that the top six candidates in the five most recent national polls as of Monday evening would make the main stage, joined by any other candidates who appeared in the top five in either Iowa or New Hampshire — the two states that vote first in the nominating process. Paul was in seventh place in all three averages, according to POLITICO’s calculations.

But a new Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics poll in Iowa released Wednesday morning has Paul at 5 percent — alone in fifth place. In fact, if the Des Moines Register poll is included on the list of the five most recent polls, it gets Paul into a tie for fifth place with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 4.2 percent. That, presumably, would get Paul onto the main stage.

It’s true that the Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics poll was released 36 hours after Fox Business’ deadline for inclusion. But it was conducted Jan. 7-10 — entirely before the qualification deadline. Other polls from American Research Group (Jan. 6-10) and Quinnipiac University (Jan. 5-10) conducted through Sunday were released on Monday afternoon (Jan. 11) and made it into Fox Business’ average.

Quite simply: Had the Register and Bloomberg released their poll, which was completed Sunday, on Monday at 5:59 p.m. instead of Wednesday at 6 a.m., Paul would likely have qualified for the main stage.

But Fox Business isn't backing down. "We announced the criteria in December and clearly stated the polling needed to be conducted and released by Monday, January 11th at 6pm/ET," Fox Business spokesperson Caley Cronin told POLITICO Wednesday morning.

Paul has declined to participate in the undercard debate. The candidates set to be on the main stage are Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, John Kasich and Bush.

A Paul spokesman didn’t return a request for comment on the new data early Wednesday morning.
 
Yeah, how dare a news organization choose when they want to release their poll. "Had the Register," well, the fact is that they didn't.
 
Drudge/Politico: Did timing of one poll knock Rand Paul out of debate?

But a new Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics poll in Iowa released Wednesday morning has Paul at 5 percent — alone in fifth place. In fact, if the Des Moines Register poll is included on the list of the five most recent polls, it gets Paul into a tie for fifth place with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 4.2 percent. That, presumably, would get Paul onto the main stage.

It’s true that the Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics poll was released 36 hours after Fox Business’ deadline for inclusion. But it was conducted Jan. 7-10 — entirely before the qualification deadline. Other polls from American Research Group (Jan. 6-10) and Quinnipiac University (Jan. 5-10) conducted through Sunday were released on Monday afternoon (Jan. 11) and made it into Fox Business’ average.


httpx:// www politico.com/story/2016/01/rand-paul-2016-republican-debate-poll-217702
 
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Yeah, how dare a news organization choose when they want to release their poll. "Had the Register," well, the fact is that they didn't.

Given the criticality of the Monday deadline impacting the debate participants, and given the "deadline mentality" of organizations like DMR, these guys knew what they were doing and are without excuse for not posting the results in time to include Rand.

Stinks to high heaven.
 
hopefully Rand can appeal this, really need all the exposure he can get before Iowa
 
Given the criticality of the Monday deadline impacting the debate participants, and given the "deadline mentality" of organizations like DMR, these guys knew what they were doing and are without excuse for not posting the results in time to include Rand.

Stinks to high heaven.

It's a conspiracy! ;)

Was it widely coordinated? Who knows. Often decisions are made at lower levels by "like-minded" people. In other words, it probably was delayed to harm Rand, but who was involved is an open question.
 
I knew this was all a setup by the RNC and now I am soooo furious! And this Des Moines newspaper is in on it; as if it was just a coincidence that they waited to release this poll...had to get Bush in there. I am sooo furious I don't know what to do!
 
I knew this was all a setup by the RNC and now I am soooo furious! And this Des Moines newspaper is in on it; as if it was just a coincidence that they waited to release this poll...had to get Bush in there. I am sooo furious I don't know what to do!

You could further explain your theory of how a newspaper is in on a conspiracy with the RNC. Otherwise, I'd suggest taking a step back and exhaling. This is the sort of wackjob talk people accuse Paul fans of being, and more often than not, they're right.
 
You could further explain your theory of how a newspaper is in on a conspiracy with the RNC. Otherwise, I'd suggest taking a step back and exhaling. This is the sort of wackjob talk people accuse Paul fans of being, and more often than not, they're right.

Patiently awaiting your ban for trolling Rand's forum . . . who exactly are you working for?
 
You could further explain your theory of how a newspaper is in on a conspiracy with the RNC. Otherwise, I'd suggest taking a step back and exhaling. This is the sort of wackjob talk people accuse Paul fans of being, and more often than not, they're right.

Or you could explain why there was an abnormally low amount of new polling data released during the two weeks leading up to this announcement when compared to other cycles and, furthermore, explain why a reputable polling firm decided to wait until the morning after their results would actually matter to release the data that they already have. Everyone knew the set date and a polling company should certainly be aware that this might look suspicious.
 
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