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As well he should be.
This is one of the "deal breaker" issues, AFAIC
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As well he should be.
This is one of the "deal breaker" issues, AFAIC
I'm disappointed in his vote, but this isn't a deal breaker for me since I'm not a down the line libertarian like many here. I'll look at his entire record to see how he votes.
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I think it will grow, a little bit. There's some people who feel like us but are afraid to vote our way. The more credible the "no" votes become, the more "no" votes you will pick up. Maybe 28 no. Idle speculation, so don't be disappointed if it's 3 'no' Republicans when the time comes lol
If C4L pulls out all the stops, we might see as high as 35 'no' Republicans out of the next vote, which will encourage even more. Set a goal, like "win 40 GOP no votes on PATRIOT" and be happy with 35. The frightened freedom fighters will start to peek out from under the couch and join the fray when it all looks safe.
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He threw the people of his district, and the rest of us under the bus. You have it backwards.
And being against the Patriot Act should be a conservative thing, not just a libertarian or liberal thing. That's a flaw in the current "conservative" party.
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Conservatives are pretty divided when it comes to issues like the Patriot Act. And in all honesty the majority of the people in my district probably support the Patriot Act. My district is more socially conservative then anything else. And just to be clear I am opposed to the Patriot Act. But I just look at a politician's entire voting record.
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I'm surprised David Schweikert voted No. He represents the district next to mine and he ran as a doctrinaire down-the-line tea-o-con. Or at least it seemed that way to me.
Also, massive thumbs down to Jason Chaffetz after voting No on extending it last time. What's his explanation for that?
Same here. You're in Flake's district too right? I talked to David Schweikert over the phone the day before he got elected and I was trying to ask him why he had horrible positions on some issues and the connection got bad and the call dropped, lol.
I'm shocked that he voted no.
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we are battling the biggovgop establishment. I hope this makes many cpac attendees and republicans and ron paul supporters understand that they MUST hold the gop leadership accountable!!!
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3 - 10 - 27 -
It looks like a geometric progression at this early stage...
It looks like a geometric progression at this early stage...
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I think it will grow, a little bit. There's some people who feel like us but are afraid to vote our way. The more credible the "no" votes become, the more "no" votes you will pick up. Maybe 28 no. Idle speculation, so don't be disappointed if it's 3 'no' Republicans when the time comes lol
If C4L pulls out all the stops, we might see as high as 35 'no' Republicans out of the next vote, which will encourage even more. Set a goal, like "win 40 GOP no votes on PATRIOT" and be happy with 35. The frightened freedom fighters will start to peek out from under the couch and join the fray when it all looks safe.
i hear ya gunny but sometimes i am thinking a pitchfork might motivate them quicker
just sayinBroun is my Rep. He is terrible on foreign policy, and so he gets under my skin quite a bit.. but compared to most I guess the truth is he's actually not bad. This vote definitely gets him out of the dog house with me for the time being. I'll have to thank him.
He should be considered Tea Party, I think. Most people around here think so, anyway.. he is very popular. He's the sort who is with us on pretty much everything but foreign policy.
He should be considered Tea Party, I think. Most people around here think so, anyway.. he is very popular. He's the sort who is with us on pretty much everything but foreign policy.
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What does this mean in real, practical terms? The GOP is not on anyone's payroll. They can do pretty much whatever they want until they get ousted one way or another. Are you going to write them nasty emails and yell at their interns on the phone? People have been trying to hold the GOP accountable even longer than I've been alive, and it almost never works. The ruling class in DC does whatever the fuck it wants.
Exactly. And people are disappointed that we only got 27. I figured that we would only get about 15.
Nothing. But this still forces an open and honest debate on the issue with the possibility of adding amendments.
They'll do what they did with the food safety bill last year, they water it down a pinch, bring it back for a Standard Rules vote, which only needs a majority, and it'll pass easily. This isn't a victory, it's just a delay. It will pass the House within two weeks. The only plus is to publicize it as much as possible and show that neither party cares about liberties. I am extremely proud of Amash, though, I was silently pessimistic about him, but he has my respect as of right now.
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A 'calendar' is the order of voting for bills. A 'suspension calendar' would be one that was being considered under a suspension of the rules. Probably in order to consider it out of order.
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I am a Ron Paul Forum participant who has thought she had great potential. I hereby officially disavow any inkling of support for her.
It shouldn't be a surprise. She voted for it every time before.
Limit debate to 40 minutes with a VERY limited number of amendments and pass it with 2/3 vote instead of the usual simple majority. The calendar part is just their calendar for when bills get voted on, nothing special.
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