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Paleontology and Creationism Meet but Don’t Mesh
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Paleontology and Creationism Meet but Don’t Mesh
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Minarchy4Sale
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wtf does this have to do with ronpaul or liberty again?
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Nothing that is why it is in "OFF TOPIC"
Go cry somewhere else. If you don't like the threads don't open them. dont reply in them....
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Simply Put
Fossils prove there was a global flood, not various ages and stages of life.
An evolutionary interpretation of paleontology teaches that the rock layers date the index fossils found in the layers, and the index fossils date the rock layers. That is obviously a circular argument for the evolutionists.
Besides, fossils can't show us that living organisms evolved over time (the fossils have to be alive in their original state as living organisms in order to prove that). They only show us that living organisms died, which is exactly what the global flood did to most of the creatures in the days of Noah.
Fossils prove there was a global flood, not various ages and stages of life.
An evolutionary interpretation of paleontology teaches that the rock layers date the index fossils found in the layers, and the index fossils date the rock layers. That is obviously a circular argument for the evolutionists.
Besides, fossils can't show us that living organisms evolved over time (the fossils have to be alive in their original state as living organisms in order to prove that). They only show us that living organisms died, which is exactly what the global flood did to most of the creatures in the days of Noah.
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Nothing that is why it is in "OFF TOPIC"
Go cry somewhere else. If you don't like the threads don't open them. dont reply in them....
or how about you go bash Theists on another fucking forum.
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I Beg to Differ
Carbon dating is not used to date fossils because carbon dating can only date things up to thousands of years, not millions of years. However, evolutionists believe that fossils were formed millions of years ago, so they assign ages to them by their own arbitrary standards of when the fossils might have originated, using the Geologic Column.
DNA is too complex to have evolved on its own. It takes information to create information. Therefore, the logical conclusion from the intricate details of DNA shows that it came from an intelligent Programmer or Designer, namely, God.
Carbon dating is not used to date fossils because carbon dating can only date things up to thousands of years, not millions of years. However, evolutionists believe that fossils were formed millions of years ago, so they assign ages to them by their own arbitrary standards of when the fossils might have originated, using the Geologic Column.
DNA is too complex to have evolved on its own. It takes information to create information. Therefore, the logical conclusion from the intricate details of DNA shows that it came from an intelligent Programmer or Designer, namely, God.
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what do you mean "evolve on its own"? from what to what?
from simple to complex? or from nothing to something?
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such as where?
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theocrat can tell you that!
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Umm...No thanks, Instead I think I will post it in the OFF TOPIC forum where it belongs.
Why don't you go bash freedom on socialist website. You don't believe in freedom or liberty unless it fits your myopic stereotype of what that means. According to you in order to believe in freedom you have to be a constitutional theist and probably some other drivel. Well sorry there buddy. People that believe in freedom and liberty have all kind of views and ideas. If you cant accept that then perhaps you are in the wrong forum.
I am pretty sure you are the one that has started more than one thread bashing atheists and anarchists, as well as starting threads specifically to put people on your ignore list. (why don't you go ahead and add me) Sounds like you are causing more trouble than the people you are claiming are the sabotuers. If you are going to dish it out you damn well better be able to take it.
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On this forum we try to do something called "Respecting each other's rights to believe whatever we want." Many people start topics that are pro-creation/religion as well.
Although we might disagree, there have been many friendly discussions here about subjects such as this and we grow as individuals by learning from one another. If you can't handle that, just stay out of the Off Topic section.
/end rant
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In case anyone here ever wondered, "How does the Pope feel about Creationism?" (not incredibly likely, I admit):
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/p81.htm
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/p81.htm
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the Pope is a scientist, how else does he know Latin?
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You're right not likely
The Catholic church and science don't usually seem to get along to well. Usually takes a few hundred years for the church to catch up.
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Freedom and Liberty have nothing to do with being a condescending A-hole. That question lies in the realm of common sense, of which you possess none, obviously.
This is a Ron Paul forum. Ron Paul is a theist, and a constitutionalist. How the fuck do you think you are going to come to a Ron Paul forum and bash his belief systems? Of course you are free to disagree, but its counter productive and downright rude to do so.
My threads about atheists and anarchists have to do with their douchebag ACTIONS LIKE THIS ONE! Not their belief systems. I dont care what you or they believe, Im just tired of you and them either hijacking threads with your drivel, or starting new ones with it. This isnt the place for it.
No, Im not interested in debating you, because I have been you. Both an anarchist and an atheist. They are logically consistent belief systems. Its really too bad that they fly in the face of observable reality. When you grow a pube or three you will realize that, unless you intend to live in your mothers basement forever.
Take your shit to the toilet where it belongs.
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Why is it "too complex to have evolved on its own"? My understanding (someone correct me if I am wrong) is that evolution is a selection process; the species with more favorable gene mutations adapt better to conditions and reproduce more; the species with less favorable gene mutations do not adapt, reproduce less, and eventually die out. It's not that an individual organism evolves, but over thousands, or tens of thousands of years the better equipped offspring gradually mutate. I don't see where God is necessary.
(Of course it could all be like pokemon, where if you feed it enough rare candies it will evolve at lvl 40 LOL. Reminds me of this short called political pokemon.
And I would also disagree that beauty, or order, or patterns in nature point to God, or some intelligent creator. It is we humans who give the world order because we view things that way. Simply put, without human perspective there is no such thing as order in the universe. Does the sun care about it's nice, round shape? Does carbon care about the symmetries in its electrons' wave functions? Nope, but we certainly do.
This museum seems out right silly. I do not understand the mentality that tries to explain facts based on a pre-conceived conclusion; instead I feel it should be the other way around. Conclusions come after the facts, not before them.
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Minarchy's view of freedom:
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Do I even have to say anything?
