That depend on what happens to the abductee.
PA - Man leaves kids, 6 and 9 for 45 minutes at park. Gets arrested, CPS involved as well.
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Travlyr
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As long as the abductor is nice... it's okay?
I am shocked that anybody thinks that there is anything wrong with what this man did,let alone criminal.There does seem to be an age
discrepancy among the different opinions here.
It seems like there has been a lot of frog boiling going on in the 50+ years since I was a kid that age.
discrepancy among the different opinions here.
It seems like there has been a lot of frog boiling going on in the 50+ years since I was a kid that age.
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You sound a little defeated - how about we turn this around. Time to put our feet down!
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I know the area, I have family there in Bridgeville. It's a very nice park with baseball fields and everything. Just where you'd expect to find tons of 6 and 9 year olds running around playing and having fun. I can understand the concern if this place wasn't somewhere that all kinds of involved parents bring their kids. Even the article said, the kids were already being monitored by someone who knew them. The lady who called the cops knew the kids. Pops probably believed his kids were safe being at a park where all kinds of kids go to play with their friends.
I was 6 years old in 1983. I played youth baseball at a park just like this. It was not uncommon for my parents to drop me off at the ball park to go play for HOURS at a time. As I grew older, maybe 8-9, I rode my bike to the ball park and hung out there all day long. Just had to be home before dark. I have 2 younger tag along siblings and at 9 years old, they could go with me to play friggin baseball without having my parents tagging along.
This is such BS that a father is not allowed to trust his kids to go play. It's a PARK! FOR KIDS! TO PLAY!
Let them play for god's sake and let them keep their daddy. Jesus.
I was 6 years old in 1983. I played youth baseball at a park just like this. It was not uncommon for my parents to drop me off at the ball park to go play for HOURS at a time. As I grew older, maybe 8-9, I rode my bike to the ball park and hung out there all day long. Just had to be home before dark. I have 2 younger tag along siblings and at 9 years old, they could go with me to play friggin baseball without having my parents tagging along.
This is such BS that a father is not allowed to trust his kids to go play. It's a PARK! FOR KIDS! TO PLAY!
Let them play for god's sake and let them keep their daddy. Jesus.
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I was 6 in the early 60's.......ran loose in the burbs North of Chicago with all the other kids on my street.
Where I live now it's safe for my son (7) to play outdoors unsupervised with his friends.
Every family, like every town is different and common sense is a good thing....Both in the kid and the parent.
Where I live now it's safe for my son (7) to play outdoors unsupervised with his friends.
Every family, like every town is different and common sense is a good thing....Both in the kid and the parent.
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Agreed.
I'm alarmed and saddened that so many people, even those here on RPF, have been so heavily indoctrinated into the "cult of safety" that seems to have been pushed heavily over the past couple of decades.
At the risk of sounding like a crusty old fart, when I was a kid:
* Seatbelts weren't mandatory and my younger brother and I bounced around unimpeded in the back of my family's 1975 Ford Station Wagon.
* 'Weapons' in school? Some of my friends brought their hunting rifles into school - they were refinishing them as a shop class project. And none of the guys I knew were ever without a handy dandy pocket knife.
* Not only did we play - unmonitored - in the local parks, one of our favorite places to play was an abandoned landfill. <<the horror!>> It was simply expected that we would come straggling in when it got dark outside.
* Not only were kids 'back then' not wrapped in bubble pack and protected from the world, we were given jobs - and responsibilities - that might terrify today's safety minded nanny state proponents. At nine years of age, I had cleaned out gutters, mowed lawns (without protective goggles and earplugs! - what were those?) and climbed fruit trees because I was light enough to pick the best juicy pears waayyy up at the top.
So let me ask the opinion of those here who are under the age of thirty: Does my world of "back then" sound as scary to you as your "safety first" world of today scares me? Because I'm frankly horrified at what sticklers for safety today's younger generations have become.
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I preferred climbing pines and maple trees myself. Fell out of a few, too-and lived to tell about it!
Hey y'all-do modern playgrounds even have monkey bars and various climbing apparatus? Those were fun as hell, but I been helicopter parents and sissies would demand them torn down.
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No shit huh?....its no wonder you have so many reps. I could write a book on the hair raising shit i encountered growing up, like that time when i was 12 with my 2 sisters in a 58 buick century going to North Dakota one summer with mom driving while dad took a nap going 120 mph down a 2 lane hiway in the middle of nowhere..no seat belts..mom half shitfaced with a can of Olympia beer between her legs...yeehaw...fun times....
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I preferred climbing pines and maple trees myself. Fell out of a few, too-and lived to tell about it!
Prefer? Prefer? Heck, I was under orders!
Hey y'all-do modern playgrounds even have monkey bars and various climbing apparatus? Those were fun as hell, but I been helicopter parents and sissies would demand them torn down.
The ones I've seen are very very low, and have several inches of fluffy rubber padding under them. When I was a kid, the padding was called "gravel."
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From the 80's. A story about a 10yold and his alien.
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From the 80's. A story about a 10yold and his alien.
how far we have come in 30 years.
Riding a bike?
In the street?
Unsupervised?
With no cel phone or GPS tracking device?
And no helmet or knee pads???
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All of the reminiscing about the good old days reminds me of one difference between then and now. It seemed that everything was in walking or quick bike ride from the house, especially when we were under ten. When the inevitable broken leg or bloody gash occurred, someone's house was within a quick run for help.
It would have been pretty strange to be driven to a far away park and left there for hours. In this particular case, it sounds like the Father was playing tennis a short distance away, which would be within a quick run if the kids knew how to get there. Driving to the gym may have put him out of reach though.
It would have been pretty strange to be driven to a far away park and left there for hours. In this particular case, it sounds like the Father was playing tennis a short distance away, which would be within a quick run if the kids knew how to get there. Driving to the gym may have put him out of reach though.
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I'm trying, my brother, I'm trying.
But even within our own merry little band of refuseniks, when I "attack" certain varieties of privacy invading, personal monitoring technology, like FarceBook for instance, I get pushback even here, from people who should know better, because of all the "convenience" it offers.
Trying it amongst the general populace is slow, painful process.
I remember the glazed look of utter shock on the older women next to me in line at the airport, when they were trying out that new passenger interrogation screening, as I loudly refused to answer any questions, based on my 5th Amendment right to remain silent.
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The padding around here was usually sand (with occasional "surprise" rocks) and occasionally a bit of grass sprouting out of hard clay desert soil.The ones I've seen are very very low, and have several inches of fluffy rubber padding under them. When I was a kid, the padding was called "gravel."
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Tanbark was the standard in my area. Of course the cover got pretty thin in between applications of fresh stuff.
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How many hours I spent at the park, or any other place, unsupervised cannot be calculated. During summers I left the house after breakfast, came home for a quick lunch, and was gone again until just before nightfall. Reading the thread I imagine this is commonplace for just about anyone. I'm only 27, so this was in the 90's. Its scary how far things have gone in such a short time.
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