PA - Man leaves kids, 6 and 9 for 45 minutes at park. Gets arrested, CPS involved as well.

Of course you have that right, I was speaking in a metaphorical sense. I also have the right to think that anyone who lets their 6 year old walk around alone is an idiot.

That's just it.

The 6 year old wasn't walking around alone.

Her 9 year old brother was with her, in a closed in park, with other adults and children there.

So the woman that was "keeping an eye on them" maybe asks, "Where's your dad?" or "Can you call your dad, or give me his phone number so I can check on him?" instead of calling the ever fucking cops, who now have arrested him, called in CPS and will probably send him to jail, thus destroying that family.

Is that a suitable outcome to you?
 
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Three wheelers, no helmets, seatbelts, left alone to figure things out. that was fun....but now you get arrested if your kid rides a bike without a helmet.....

People look at me like I am crazy snowboarding without helmet.
Many are just pussified
 
I use to walk down the street to my friends house when I was 5, with my dog.I walked every day from 5-15 years old to school and it was about a half mile walk ...wtf is up with these idiots calling cops.
 
People look at me like I am crazy snowboarding without helmet.
Many are just pussified

The concussion/whole day of memory permanently gone skiing incident I had in winter 2009 convinced me that helmets are actually not always a good idea.
I wasn't even going that fast, but fell down backward and hit my head on hard-pack snow.
Only the helmet increases the surface area of what's getting hit.
And there's zero padding in there.
Meaning that that increased surface area is going to transfer more force straight through the styrofoam and directly into your skull.

One of my hobbies is dressing up in armor and letting men twice my weight swing 7' long sticks at my head, and also constructing the armor necessary to survive that. I don't have a PhD in head trauma, but IMO, bike helmets aren't worth it.
 
Of course you have that right, I was speaking in a metaphorical sense. I also have the right to think that anyone who lets their 6 year old walk around alone is an idiot.

In Germany, kids younger than that walk home alone, let themselves into their homes with a key, and take care of themselves until their parents get home.

In America, kids are encouraged to avoid responsibility of any kind.
 
A much better story than reading about another child abduction.

Like the non war on cops, a very tiny number, roughly around 100 to 150 a year.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/01/800000_missing_kids_really.html

But I suppose you find that tearing this family apart and having these children abducted by the state is a better solution?

Fuck it, you know what?

I think all children should just have one of these devices permanently attached at birth.

That's where all this is going anyway.

http://www.safeguard-1.com/MISSING_CHILD_STATS.html

Ask yourself this question. Do I really know that my child or grandchild is safe at this very moment? Unless your child is physically in your care, you inevitably answered NO. Find that thought alarming? So did the SafeGUARD1gps team. In today’s world, there really is no “safe place” as there once was. Children can disappear in the blink of an eye sometimes by simply wandering away from a parent or guardian. Worse yet, they can be taken from a “safe” location just as fast thus becoming virtually untraceable to parents, law enforcement, school personnel ,etc. Using the very latest in GPS technology, the SafeGUARD1gps unit monitors your loved one constantly while reporting to its server every 15 minutes giving you virtually instantaneous knowledge and peace of mind concerning the safety of your child. With this innovative personal security device, you can monitor your child’s whereabouts at anytime from your home computer, office computer, cellular phone or any where the internet is available! The device also features one-touch dialing to any telephone number you choose for instant notification .

Consider this scenario, your child is victimized, most children under the age of 13 would be without a cell phone (or have time to use one) thus having no way to contact you. With the SafeGUARD1gps on their person, they simply hold the advanced S.O.S. button for five seconds thus generating their location information from the device to the web-server every two minutes for a duration of twenty minutes . This function is easily explainable to any child, just as teaching them "911" . Geo-fencing is yet another ground breaking feature of the unit. This feature allows you as the parent to set boundaries such as a designated mile/radius area that your child should be in for a given time simply by entering the set boundary information into our user friendly website. This feature also works well with teenagers as it also features set speed features as well as set boundaries. As soon as the boundary is breached—instant notification! Another great feature is the size of the unit. It will fit into a pocket, back-pack, lunch box, virtually un-noticed therefore allowing the child his or her own security system in just about any panic situation going virtually un-noticed by the assailant holding them captive. Concerned about the child possibly losing the device? Not to worry, the unit has a handy attachment gage where you simply attach a small cord, heavy string, etc. to clip safely onto or into your desired carrier whether it be a back-pack, lunch box or even their belt loop! Even babies and toddlers benefit from the device as it can be stowed in a diaper bag or stroller as well as attached inside their clothing.


Most of our children age 4 to 12 are not carrying a cell phone leaving them vulnerable to predators not expecting they are concealing a device like the SafeGUARD1gps unit. Peace of mind? Definitely. Consider also that mentally-challenged children and adults as well as elderly individuals disappear from homes, playgrounds, etc almost daily. By simply attatching the unit to their person, their whereabouts are traceable as well. Do you have an avid hunter, backpacker or hiker in your family? Imagine knowing their safety as well! The situations and scenarios mentioned herein are FACT. Take the appropriate measures today to ensure the safety and well-being of your family.
 
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That's just it.

The 6 year old wasn't walking around alone.

Her 9 year old brother was with her, in a closed in park, with other adults and children there.

So the woman that was "keeping an eye on them" maybe asks, "Where's your dad?" or "Can you call your dad, or give me his phone number so I can check on him?" instead of calling the ever fucking cops, who now have arrested him, called in CPS and will probably send him to jail, thus destroying that family.

Is that a suitable outcome to you?
See what happens in this modern world. Let your kids enjoy life unsupervised for 45 minutes and they get kidnapped.

My parents left us alone pretty much all my life. As long as we were home for supper everything was fine.
 
Like the non war on cops, a very tiny number, roughly around 100 to 150 a year.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/01/800000_missing_kids_really.html

But I suppose you find that tearing this family apart and having these children abducted by the state is a better solution?

Fuck it, you know what?

I think all children should just have one of these devices permanently attached at birth.

That's where all this is going anyway.

http://www.safeguard-1.com/MISSING_CHILD_STATS.html

Ask yourself this question. Do I really know that my child or grandchild is safe at this very moment? Unless your child is physically in your care, you inevitably answered NO. Find that thought alarming? So did the SafeGUARD1gps team. In today’s world, there really is no “safe place” as there once was. Children can disappear in the blink of an eye sometimes by simply wandering away from a parent or guardian. Worse yet, they can be taken from a “safe” location just as fast thus becoming virtually untraceable to parents, law enforcement, school personnel ,etc. Using the very latest in GPS technology, the SafeGUARD1gps unit monitors your loved one constantly while reporting to its server every 15 minutes giving you virtually instantaneous knowledge and peace of mind concerning the safety of your child. With this innovative personal security device, you can monitor your child’s whereabouts at anytime from your home computer, office computer, cellular phone or any where the internet is available! The device also features one-touch dialing to any telephone number you choose for instant notification .

Consider this scenario, your child is victimized, most children under the age of 13 would be without a cell phone (or have time to use one) thus having no way to contact you. With the SafeGUARD1gps on their person, they simply hold the advanced S.O.S. button for five seconds thus generating their location information from the device to the web-server every two minutes for a duration of twenty minutes . This function is easily explainable to any child, just as teaching them "911" . Geo-fencing is yet another ground breaking feature of the unit. This feature allows you as the parent to set boundaries such as a designated mile/radius area that your child should be in for a given time simply by entering the set boundary information into our user friendly website. This feature also works well with teenagers as it also features set speed features as well as set boundaries. As soon as the boundary is breached—instant notification! Another great feature is the size of the unit. It will fit into a pocket, back-pack, lunch box, virtually un-noticed therefore allowing the child his or her own security system in just about any panic situation going virtually un-noticed by the assailant holding them captive. Concerned about the child possibly losing the device? Not to worry, the unit has a handy attachment gage where you simply attach a small cord, heavy string, etc. to clip safely onto or into your desired carrier whether it be a back-pack, lunch box or even their belt loop! Even babies and toddlers benefit from the device as it can be stowed in a diaper bag or stroller as well as attached inside their clothing.


Most of our children age 4 to 12 are not carrying a cell phone leaving them vulnerable to predators not expecting they are concealing a device like the SafeGUARD1gps unit. Peace of mind? Definitely. Consider also that mentally-challenged children and adults as well as elderly individuals disappear from homes, playgrounds, etc almost daily. By simply attatching the unit to their person, their whereabouts are traceable as well. Do you have an avid hunter, backpacker or hiker in your family? Imagine knowing their safety as well! The situations and scenarios mentioned herein are FACT. Take the appropriate measures today to ensure the safety and well-being of your family.
I take it my comment touched a nerve, and you'd rather not face the reality that children are abducted, everyday.

Sorry.
 
See what happens in this modern world. Let your kids enjoy life unsupervised for 45 minutes and they get kidnapped.

My parents left us alone pretty much all my life. As long as we were home for supper everything was fine.

Maybe it's just middle aged curmudgeoness combined with the rapidly descending surveillance state, but you know what?

Fuck this modern world.

Fuck it, hard.

:mad:

(And yes I'm aware of the irony of using relatively modern technology to decry the world of modern technology, so don't bother pointing that out.)
 
See what happens in this modern world. Let your kids enjoy life unsupervised for 45 minutes and they get kidnapped.

My parents left us alone pretty much all my life. As long as we were home for supper everything was fine.
And we never locked doors while John Wayne Gacy roamed the streets ... Times change.
 
Since helmets have been mentioned: Life in a Bubble

I am writing an article on the obsession with helmet safety and the culture of fear, and I came across this abomination - Thudguard. This product is the forever helmet for babies that is described as a "½ inch thick impact tested protective foam hat is designed to help absorb and reduce the impact of falls from a child’s own height and lessen the chance of head injury when infants are learning to walk."

crawl_walk_play-1.jpg

You can read the warnings on the packaging at the link.

LOL...
 
That's just it.

The 6 year old wasn't walking around alone.

Her 9 year old brother was with her, in a closed in park, with other adults and children there.

So the woman that was "keeping an eye on them" maybe asks, "Where's your dad?" or "Can you call your dad, or give me his phone number so I can check on him?" instead of calling the ever fucking cops, who now have arrested him, called in CPS and will probably send him to jail, thus destroying that family.

Is that a suitable outcome to you?

Yes, that would be the perfect solution.
 
I take it my comment touched a nerve, and you'd rather not face the reality that children are abducted, everyday.

Sorry.

No, just another misstatement of fact on your part.

Roughly 100 to 150 children are truly abducted or kidnapped by strangers each year.

That is not every day.

That is not even every other day.

Now, answer the question:

Should this man go to jail and have CPS take his children away for this "crime"?
 
Yes, that would be the perfect solution.

Just so we are clear, because my post was not, for that I apologize:

You are in agreement that this man should go to jail, and have his children taken by the state, for this "crime"?

Or,

You are in agreement that the woman watching the children should have tried to call the father first, before calling the cops and starting this whole mess?
 
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No, just another misstatement of fact on your part.

Roughly 100 to 150 children are truly abducted or kidnapped by strangers each year.

That is not every day.

That is not even every other day.

Now, answer the question:

Should this man go to jail and have CPS take his children away for this "crime"?
I never made a claim to any set of numbers, and I really don't see this as being of national importance ... And the tools you question are the fault of the banksters ... Another member of this forum convinced me of this.
 
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