Outgoing Alaskan GOP chair transfers $$ in a spiteful move.
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Looking up various definitions of embezzlement, this appears to meet every one.
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Yep, If this is in a newspaper already speculating that, then it looks pretty obvious.
Isn't this the guy that got caught stealing from a Macy's or something? No surprise he would try this theft too. Hopefully the AK attorney general's office is watching. They may enjoy nailing this dude. Anybody in AK should file a complaint with the attorney general's office.
I would say to let the locals handle it (but obviously if they want our money, I'll be first in line to give). We had a similar situation in 2010ish where a local party boss was about to be ousted, so he and the treasurer transferred all the unit's funds to another local unit, ostensibly to better coordinate election efforts. The new chairman called up the other unit and they voided out the check. Now, this situation is 2 orders of magnitude larger, but I expect you'll get the same result. A local unit isn't equipped to handle 100K and there will be ways for our new chairman to get those $$$ back.
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It sounds as though Ron Paul forces have effectively taken over the AK gop.
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When facing down the "enemy" it's good to flex your muscles and show 'em that they are going up against someone that will not be easily defeated and is better to try to partner with.
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Put the money bomb cash in trust.
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Seems to me that any money spent, should be to have the current chair charged and removed from his position.
He may just resign from the heat.
That is what should happen and we would get another national vote.
He may just resign from the heat.
That is what should happen and we would get another national vote.
That would be ideal but a logistical nightmare. While I like the moneybomb idea I think it's way too possible for that money to be stolen somehow too. I really think that idea should be put on hold until the new leadership takes over.
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I think it can be done. The rules say who can access the account. They took the money because the financial officer is clearly one of those people. So we just have to not keep too tight a hold on it. Yeah, some mistakes might be made, but it is not like we plan to give a never ending stream, it would be seed money then we expect them to deal with it. MN has debts too and if we take the chair there we have to realize what is being taken over.
Who controls the trust? How do we ensure moneybomb proceeds go to that trust? How do we trust who controls the trust? It's not like we make a chip-in directly into a trust account. Logistically it's a nightmare if we're serious about keeping it away from the current leadership until they leave. Then, there's the possibility that the trust could be sued by the GOP, etc.
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That is what I meant about being loose about it. I'll go one further and say that I don't know this new chair's history at all and whether he is a patriot activist or a charleton. But I DO know 'Ron Paul supporters' took over the AK GOP and parties across the country will be looking to see if they sink or swim. I'd like to give them a chance to swim. I'd throw a little money at it, not a ton, little enough that if it was handled poorly I wouldn't care too much. I'd want a separate account set up specifically for the transition, and we would have to meld it with the AK rules to make sure the old chair can't get his mitts on it, but it may end up that the real control will be only giving our guys, and only our guys, signature cards. The old chair could try suing for it, but we'd be suing in return, and if it actually gets to court, I think we should win. I think they are counting on asking forgiveness rather than permission under color of the old chair still holding title, if not financial officer position, until February. But for us, we would just be starting either a legal fund to get the money, or money in a bank account with two signatures necessary on the cards.
People don't have to give, and the structure would have to be set up in AK and vetted by those wanting to give. But I do think it is important to how our takeover of these parties is viewed. The GOP establishment is pointing to the low fundraising of that NH teaparty chair as a reason ordinary people rather than establishment picks shouldn't be elected. Essentially, special interests won't donate unless the party is funneling money to them in the good old establishment fashion. I think it would be a nice response. But it would take a bunch of people thinking so.
People don't have to give, and the structure would have to be set up in AK and vetted by those wanting to give. But I do think it is important to how our takeover of these parties is viewed. The GOP establishment is pointing to the low fundraising of that NH teaparty chair as a reason ordinary people rather than establishment picks shouldn't be elected. Essentially, special interests won't donate unless the party is funneling money to them in the good old establishment fashion. I think it would be a nice response. But it would take a bunch of people thinking so.
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