Outgoing Alaskan GOP chair transfers $$ in a spiteful move.

[Origanalist]

Yes it's time for an AK Moneybomb. Let's refill the party's pocketbook.

Yes.

 

[Barrex]

You misunderstand me. We don't let it go, but the old chair retains much of his powers until Feb which I'm sure is the 'color' of authority they are using and it will take TIME to get to the money which will likely be being spent unless it is frozen by court action which would hurt local candidates and may or may not be the right thing to do -- I don't know enough about the situation.

Meanwhile OUR AK GOP, the REAL AK GOP, needs money to do GOP things, support candidates, hold events, hire halls, have staff, the things that without money is going to make our guys look pretty lame. Not to mention that the very lawsuit to pursue the money is going to take money.

So ABSOLUTELY pursue this, but also get them pin money to work with.

I understand but I strongly disagree.(I wasnt being rude just really disagree). Why would liberty/honest people need to spend money that corrupt try to steal? Liberty people would finance campain of neo-cons etc. Tell them the truth: We dont have money because person x and person y took all money. Make them enemy of all and not just our enemy. It is noble idea but I dont agree with it. With 100,000 dollars we could get 5 people like G. Bradley elected (including real G. Bradley).

If grassroots does this now establichment guys will keep doing this again and again. Why? Because they will realize that they can depleate us that way. We are giving GOP money that we should be useing to elect liberty oriented people.
Best case scenario:
We get all 50 states and we need for all 50 states 50 money bomb to fill GOP accounts with 100,000 dollars per state.

 

[Origanalist]

Before setting up an AK MoneyBomb, we need to be certain they can't just transfer the money out again. If I read correctly, our guy doesn't become GOP chair until January. So who's in control between now and then?

From the OP;
"Millete won’t officially become chairman for eight months. He will, however, serve as the party’s finance chairman immediately."

 

[Tyler_Durden]

Before setting up an AK MoneyBomb, we need to be certain they can't just transfer the money out again. If I read correctly, our guy doesn't become GOP chair until January. So who's in control between now and then?

Just to reemphasize:

"Millette, 67, has lived off and on in Alaska.......He will assume chair of the state GOP at the start of 2013. But for now, he will serve as the party’s finance chairman."

"Ruedrich confirmed Saturday that the state GOP transferred all, or nearly all, of its roughly $100,000 to the local Capital City Republicans in Juneau. The party did that because legislators were “concerned,” said Ruedrich, before ending the interview to tend to party business."

So if Ruedrich (the outgoing GOP Chair) is still in charge until January 2013, we need to carefully consider this before setting up an AK GOP MoneyBomb, correct? We don't want our efforts to go to waste if the current chair decides to transfer money again between now and January.....

 

[Origanalist]

I understand but I strongly disagree.(I wasnt being rude just really disagree). Why would liberty/honest people need to spend money that corrupt try to steal? Liberty people would finance campain of neo-cons etc. Tell them the truth: We dont have money because person x and person y took all money. Make them enemy of all and not just our enemy. It is noble idea but I dont agree with it. With 100,000 dollars we could get 5 people like G. Bradley elected (including real G. Bradley).

We do disagree, I think that this would show our strength. Look, they took all the funds and left us nothing to operate with, nice try and it might have worked against Gingrich people but were talking about Ron Paul people here and that wont work. Lets get to business.

 

[sailingaway]

I understand but I strongly disagree.(I wasnt being rude just really disagree). Why would liberty/honest people need to spend money that corrupt try to steal? Liberty people would finance campain of neo-cons etc. Tell them the truth: We dont have money because person x and person y took all money. Make them enemy of all and not just our enemy. It is noble idea but I dont agree with it. With 100,000 dollars we could get 5 people like G. Bradley elected (including real G. Bradley).

If grassroots does this now establichment guys will keep doing this again and again. Why? Because they will realize that they can depleate us that way. We are giving GOP money that we should be useing to elect liberty oriented people.
Best case scenario:
We get all 50 states and we need for all 50 states 50 money bomb to fill GOP accounts with 100,000 dollars per state.

I disagree, I think AK needs the money. Otherwise our guys will be limping. We want them to look REALLY good.

 

[Origanalist]

Just to reemphasize:





So if Ruedrich (the outgoing GOP Chair) is still in charge until January 2013, we need to carefully consider this before setting up an AK GOP MoneyBomb, correct? We don't want our efforts to go to waste if the current chair decides to transfer money again between now and January.....

I would say at this point we would be wise to be rock solid certain who controlled the funds donated in a money bomb. Your point is spot on.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

To Re-reemphasize as Originalist did (only in bold):

Just to reemphasize:

So if Ruedrich (the outgoing GOP Chair) is still in charge until January 2013, we need to carefully consider this before setting up an AK GOP MoneyBomb, correct? We don't want our efforts to go to waste if the current chair decides to transfer money again between now and January.....

We don't want to create a money bomb and the the old chair transfer our donated funds away.

 

[Origanalist]

To Re-reemphasize as Originalist did (only in bold):



We don't want to create a money bomb and the the old chair transfer our donated funds away.

Fixed it for me

 

[airborne373]

Is this felony theft?

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Is this felony theft?

I would think so, if the authority and rules do not support it.

 

[kathy88]

I'm really thinking in terms of headlines... "ousted AK Romney chair absconds with state GOP funds, new Ron Paul chair replaces in 24 hours from small donors..." sorry for typos phone

 

[sailingaway]

I would say at this point we would be wise to be rock solid certain who controlled the funds donated in a money bomb. Your point is spot on.

Yeah, I'd wait to hear from our guys that THEY had an account set up and the money would be donated SPECIFICALLY to the RNC under management of the new Financial officer so they can't claim it.

 

[sailingaway]

I'm really thinking in terms of headlines... "ousted AK Romney chair absconds with state GOP funds, new Ron Paul chair replaces in 24 hours from small donors..." sorry for typos phone

that's what I was thinking too. Let parties to come see we aren't coming penniless to the table.

But I WOULD give it a cap of say $150,000, because we want to get money to Iowa and other places too.

 

[S.Shorland]

Sounds like an appeal to Mr Thiel might be a good idea if they need funds immediately.He also has the funds to frighten off any attempted theft.

 

[Smitty]

If possible, have charges brought against them.

If not, sue them for it.

Don't give an inch,...not an inch.

 

[Crickett]

Yes it's time for an AK Moneybomb. Let's refill the party's pocketbook.

Since the crook who transferred the money is still in "charge" I would doubt this is a good idea...

 

[sailingaway]

We have to specify it is for a different management fund specifically set up for new management. The "Alaska GOP transition fund" and the donation page should have a specific account and disclose how it is managed and who controls it.

 

[kathy88]

Too bad non-Paul republicans will never hear about this crap they've been pulling. Some may actually care.

 

[kathy88]

Anyone else noticing that anyone who does anything so blatantly crooked as this funds transfer is not running for re-election? Did they have a huge list of fall guys who were instructed to just do whatever it took, or what? SO hoping we can find monetary connections between the GOP and these crooks later...