Our 'nominee' could barely hit 60% in today's primaries

[Tiso0770]

For a presumptive nominee still hovering around the 50s and 60s against two so-called irrelevant candidates in this race is pretty pathetic, and the reason why is because the only backbone he has comes from the party that attempted to shove him down our throats in the first place.

And on the point of delegates, I agree that he is still racking them up, but it's no reason to give up and say this campaign is over. Sometimes I have to remind myself that there's something bigger than the campaign, and that's a movement that has occurred since 2008.

What if Ron is right, and Romney does stumble?

I agree, people are throwing up their hands and saying "Romney won, we won't have a broker convention". I'm starting to suspect some of the bloggers here if they truly are Ron Paul supporters.

One of the thing that people leave out is the electronic voting machines, how many time do we need to go over that subject. Another observation was, CNN tried to get the RNC throw out Gingrich and Paul from the election....it was on youtube.

 

[Tudo]

as if the actual votes are being counted and reported

 

[Okie RP fan]

Still better than we did!

 

[jemuf]

I'm not a political history buff or an expert, but I disagree with the premise that 60% isn't substantial. To say it isn't is grasping at straws.

Now if you want to say that he got to 60% due to fraud then I'm with you.

 

[Morerockin]

Here's the article:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_new...a-protest-vote-in-the-remaining-gop-primaries

Bush and McCain never dropped below 70% when they were declared the presumptive nominee.

Really? Who cares? We are gettin our tails kicked in this primary and people are complaining that we're not losing by enough?? Or that we're sweeping delegates when in fact we've won SOME delegates in a few states. This delegate strategy an campaign has been a huge CF!

 

[Morerockin]

I agree, people are throwing up their hands and saying "Romney won, we won't have a broker convention". I'm starting to suspect some of the bloggers here if they truly are Ron Paul supporters.

One of the thing that people leave out is the electronic voting machines, how many time do we need to go over that subject. Another observation was, CNN tried to get the RNC throw out Gingrich and Paul from the election....it was on youtube.

Wtf ... So it's not OK to come to grips with reality? I knew a brokered convention was a fallacy after Santorum dropped out. If you still think there is any shot in hell at a brokered convention now, than you need to put down the bong.

I have been a supporter of Paul since Jan of 07 and love the man to death but don't question anyone's integrity or loyalty because we see the writing on the wall.

Look, I am fine with the fact that this campaign isn't about winning the nomination and I know the campaign knows this. But what makes me sick are people who can't do simple math and statistics and look at the primaries ahead! The caucus states with easy to get delegates are over after Louisiana. Romney will lock this up after he kills it in TX and CA.

I am betting RP has no more than 500 delegates at the convention .. And that is a huge number

 

[Natural Citizen]

Really? Who cares? We are gettin our tails kicked in this primary and people are complaining that we're not losing by enough?? Or that we're sweeping delegates when in fact we've won SOME delegates in a few states. This delegate strategy an campaign has been a huge CF!

Well.I know folks are going to throw the kitchen sink at me when I say this but the strategy was one hell of an investment as far as educating a new generation of critical thinkers relative not only to the issues but how exactly the tools exist to address them. Or process, I guess. We really are trying to change the course of history and you can bet that the establishment political bookies know that the future isn't really so far away. Nope. Lberty is young again and the old guard is aging out of relevance. Was telling eleganz a little tale about this phenomenon somewhere else a ways back. It is what it is. Make of it what you can. Time is on our side. Really. Let the youth learn to crawl. Eventually they'll land on their own two feet.

 

[Xenophage]

He's not MY nominee.

I think I might vote for Obama just because I hate the Republicans so much. If they'd treated us better, then I'd probably abstain, write in Ron Paul or vote for Gary Johnson. After all the crap that has gone down, though, I think it might be Obama.

 

[JacobSzumniak]

hmm

What makes it impossible for Mitt to change his mind civil liberties and foreign policy. Is it possible a heart to heart with Ron can change him around the time of the convention?

 

[coffeewithchess]

That's all I have to say about today.

There's still a lot Romney needs to do to this season before going out and declaring himself the nominee. No one is ready to embrace him yet.

I hope everyone here is still fighting it out for Ron and this campaign

This campaign?
Romney only attack ad, and I will gladly donate...it's what I have been waiting for. I want to see a campaign staff that is serious about winning...and leaving Romney and Obama untouched is not what I'm seeing as wanting to win.

 

[RPit]

Give it a rest guys.. If Romney's performance is horrible, than that must mean our performance up til now is the 'gold standard' of electioneering.

 

[Morerockin]

Well.I know folks are going to throw the kitchen sink at me when I say this but the strategy was one hell of an investment as far as educating a new generation of critical thinkers relative not only to the issues but how exactly the tools exist to address them. Or process, I guess. We really are trying to change the course of history and you can bet that the establishment political bookies know that the future isn't really so far away. Nope. Lberty is young again and the old guard is aging out of relevance. Was telling eleganz a little tale about this phenomenon somewhere else a ways back. It is what it is. Make of it what you can. Time is on our side. Really. Let the youth learn to crawl. Eventually they'll land on their own two feet.

Well said

 

[floridasun1983]

Give it a rest guys.. If Romney's performance is horrible, than that must mean our performance up til now is the 'gold standard' of electioneering.

Only in the bizarro world of RPF is defeat a victory, up is down, left is right, etc.

 

[thoughtomator]

It's pretty plain to me that the media chose Romney, and the GOP establishment went along with it because he's their kind of guy.

They will be sorely mistaken if they think I am going to change my mind as to who I am voting for in November. I'll still be voting on the line that says Ron Paul, even if I have to write it in myself. And if that means we get four more years of Obama, so be it - if there is no better choice out there, what difference should it make to me?

Arguably the best strategy from here is for all of us to hop on board with Cloward-Piven, may as well bring this situation to its logical conclusion so that our posterity will sooner know the better world that will emerge from the ashes of failed authoritarianism.

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

It's pretty plain to me that the media chose Romney, and the GOP establishment went along with it because he's their kind of guy.

They will be sorely mistaken if they think I am going to change my mind as to who I am voting for in November. I'll still be voting on the line that says Ron Paul, even if I have to write it in myself. And if that means we get four more years of Obama, so be it - if there is no better choice out there, what difference should it make to me?

Arguably the best strategy from here is for all of us to hop on board with Cloward-Piven, may as well bring this situation to its logical conclusion so that our posterity will sooner know the better world that will emerge from the ashes of failed authoritarianism.

This is the right choice. Your soul is more important than "winning", and if you tell people that they should vote how God directs them and their conscience instead of the "lesser of two evils", we wouldn't have problems we are having as a country, and people wouldn't be so apathetic, like they can only do evil.

But you yourself will be blessed.

 

[speciallyblend]

NOBP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Natural Citizen]

This is the right choice. Your soul is more important than "winning", and if you tell people that they should vote how God directs them and their conscience instead of the "lesser of two evils", we wouldn't have problems we are having as a country, and people wouldn't be so apathetic, like they can only do evil.

But you yourself will be blessed.

Except if it's liberty that is to rise then it is liberty that must be reduced to ashes. And it's well on it's way. Not authoritarianism. We don't want a rebirth of that notion, people. Sheesh.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ns-and-ignores-Ron-Paul&p=4375089#post4375089

 

[speciallyblend]

none of this matters. The bottom line the gop has 2 options in tampa, Ron Paul or Obama!!!

 

[Natural Citizen]

Only in the bizarro world of RPF is defeat a victory, up is down, left is right, etc.

Silly wabbit. Change is constant. No right angles required. You're thinking more of the same with those scribbles.

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

Sometimes I have to remind myself that there's something bigger than the campaign, and that's a movement that has occurred since 2008.

What if Ron is right, and Romney does stumble?

+1

Ron Paul is the only way republicans could win. If he was on the VP ballot would bring a lot of support to Romney. Plus he could school Obama and Biden on national TV.

Let's end this Romney/Paul bullshit right here, shall we?

Ron Paul has already said many times that the differences between him & Romney ARE WAY TOO BIG
Here's Ron again, listen @3:30 onwards - Ron says that the likelihood of Romney-family & Paul-family playing a baseball game together is much higher than him & Romney joining hands at RNC - the differences in their political views are simply too big!

none of this matters. The bottom line the gop has 2 options in tampa, Ron Paul or Obama!!!

+1

And WHY WHY WHY has this never yet been the focus of this campaign???
Ron Paul's superior electability against Obama in the General Election due to his appeal across political spectrum from Repubs to Indies to Dems?????? Instead millions were blown up on useless endeavors while Ron biggest stumbling-block ELECTABILITY was never addressed from the beginning Why does that issue STILL takes a backseat amongst most Paul-supporters?????