Osama bin Laden dead?

[tonesforjonesbones]

I have considered him to be dead for years.

 

[paulitics]

Can someone confirm the validity of whether he was undergoing kidney dialysis in 2000? Was this just a rumor, or has it been admitted as true by FBI/CIA etc?

 

[PatriotOne]

Can someone confirm the validity of whether he was undergoing kidney dialysis in 2000? Was this just a rumor, or has it been admitted as true by FBI/CIA etc?

Hospital Worker: I Saw Osama

Jan. 28, 2002

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/28/eveningnews/main325887.shtml

CBS) Everyone remembers what happened on Sept. 11 and, reports CBS News Correspondent Barry Petersen, here's the story of what may have happened the night before.

In a tale as twisted as the hunt for Osama bin Laden, CBS Evening News has been told that the night before the Sept. 11 terrorists attack, Osama bin Laden was in Pakistan. He was getting medical treatment with the support of the very military that days later pledged its backing for the U.S. war on terror in Afghanistan.

Pakistan intelligence sources tell CBS News that bin Laden was spirited into a military hospital in Rawalpindi for kidney dialysis treatment.

"On that night," said a medical worker who wanted her identity protected, "they moved out all the regular staff in the urology department and sent in a secret team to replace them." She said it was treatment for a very special person and "the special team was obviously up to no good."

"They military had him surrounded," said a hospital employee who also wanted his identity masked, "and I saw the mysterious patient helped out of a car. Since that time," he said, "I have seen many pictures of the man. He is the man we know as Osama bin Laden. I also heard two army officers talking to each other. They were saying that Osama bin Laden had to be watched carefully and looked after."

Those who know bin Laden say he suffers from numerous ailments — back and stomach problems.

Ahmed Rashid, who has written extensively on the Taliban, said the military was often there to help before Sept. 11.

"There were reports that Pakistan intelligence had helped the Taliban buy dialysis machines and the rumor was that these were for wanted for Osama bin Laden," said Rashid.

Doctors at the hospital told CBS News there was nothing special about that night, but they declined our request to see any records. Government officials reached Monday night denied that bin Laden received any medical treatment that night.

A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Tuesday the United States has seen nothing to substantiate the report.

It was Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf who said in public what many suspected: that bin Laden suffers from kidney disease, saying he thinks bin Laden may be near death.

His evidence — watching the most recent video, showing a pale and haggard bin Laden, his left hand never moving. Bush administration officials admit they don't know if bin Laden is sick or even dead.

"With respect to the issue of Osama bin Laden's health, I just am...don't have any knowledge," said Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

The U.S. has no way of knowing who in Pakistan's military or intelligence supported the Taliban or Osama bin Lade, maybe up to the night before Sept. 11 by arranging dialysis to keep him alive. So the U.S. may not know if those same people might help him again — perhaps to freedom.

 

[devil21]

Fox News still hasn't taken down this article about bin Laden's reported death:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

Dec 26,2001
Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."

The Taliban source who claims to have seen bin Laden's face before burial said "he looked pale ... but calm, relaxed and confident."

Asked whether bin Laden had any feelings of remorse before death, the source vehemently said "no." Instead, he said, bin Laden was proud that he succeeded in his mission of igniting awareness amongst Muslims about hegemonistic designs and conspiracies of "pagans" against Islam. Bin Laden, he said, held the view that the sacrifice of a few hundred people in Afghanistan was nothing, as those who laid their lives in creating an atmosphere of resistance will be adequately rewarded by Almighty Allah.

When asked where bin Laden was buried, the source said, "I am sure that like other places in Tora Bora, that particular place too must have vanished."

Regardless of the article, I'm certain he's dead. Over the last couple years, we've seen his appearance change drastically (remember the dyed beard and bigger nose?) and now all of his "messages" are all audiotapes with no video whatsoever. It's just continued psy-ops to keep the boogeyman bin Laden around in spirit to keep people afraid.

 

[BuddyRey]

Yes, I believe he is dead. He is being used as Goldstein in 1984. Every time a video tape surfaces on the news everyone is allowed their 2 minutes of hate.

Osama bin Laden:
A dead nemesis perpetuated by the US government
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.html?q=osama_dead.html

Ooh, great literary reference!!!

 

[Mauiboy86]

Dead or alive he certainly has a lot less influence or significance than he did in 2001.

Osama had nothing to do with 911, ask the FBI they will tell you straight up.

 

[Kludge]

I believe this is the first reference of Osama bin Laden I've heard/read in nearly a year. If he isn't dead, he might as well be.

 

[Dianne]

Here is Benizir Bhutto's interview with David Frost in which she mentions the death of Bin Laden's. The comment comes at around 6:10 minutes into the interview. Notice David Frost never acknowledges the comment. I imagine the entire government controlled news media is aware Bin Laden has been dead for years... but not allowed to report it to us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ

 

[Reason]

I imagine the entire government controlled news media is aware Bin Laden has been dead for years... but not allowed to report it to us.

riiiight....

 

[devil21]

I believe this is the first reference of Osama bin Laden I've heard/read in nearly a year. If he isn't dead, he might as well be.

"He" releases audiotapes every few months. They just don't get much press anymore. Usually a single AP article that covers the basic gist and a footnote that the contents haven't been verified as being OBL by the gov't.

 

[DAFTEK]

is that another way of asking me if Im a troll?

No, it's just that we are cautious about new members racking up posts like madman. He had our share of Obama spoof members on this forum.