Ordinary People and Ordinary Immigration

[Julia]

Hello,

I hope this is the right place to start this - I've done my best to file it appropriately!

I am a 41 year old Englishwoman (sorry - can't vote for Mr Paul although I'd very much like to!). I have worked as a missionary and a businesswoman. I have never been involved in anything illegal or immoral.

I am not married (lady missionaries aren't always the best candidates for that!) so don't expect to have any children to get birthright citizenship.

I am not from a country that is eligible for the immigration lottery and I don't happen to have $250,000 lying around to invest.

I would LOVE to live in one of the Southern states but I can't find a basis for immigrating.

England is in a state of post-imperial meltdown. America is about to make the same mistake - of going out to police, run or generally mess with the world.

Ron Paul's is the one voice of reason I have heard out of the madness. I have listened to everything he has said via You tube and have yet to find one word I disagree with. My politics have never made me very popular in England!

That's the background. Question is:

How does Ron Paul view immigration that is NOT illegal by people who are just middle level income, honest, hard-working people trying to get a break?

Thing is, I could just marry a nice accommodating American male, get my citizenship and then divorce him. But I won't.

I could come to the states, have a baby by fair means or foul and then claim citizenship. But I won't.

I could come in, find me a place in Chicago or Houston or some other sanctuary city and just stay. But I won't.

What I can't do yet is pay my way in. (But I'm sure working on it!) Apart from which, $250,000 in New York would get me a hot dog stand! $250,000 in Mississippi would get me half the state!

Should legal immigration therefore be a federal or a state-by-state question?

Does this make sense as an immigration policy?

I'd like to know Congressman Paul's views in this area and I can't find a thing. Can anyone link me to something that tells me? Or give me an answer here?

Congratulations on the fundraising yesterday. I was watching the total increase as I listened to the fireworks from the town's huge display. Couldn't possibly have forgotten the 5th of November or "gunpowder, treason and plot!"

Thanks muchly,

Julia

 

[nickcoons]

Should legal immigration therefore be a federal or a state-by-state question?

Does this make sense as an immigration policy?

I'd like to know Congressman Paul's views in this area and I can't find a thing. Can anyone link me to something that tells me? Or give me an answer here?

I haven't found many specifics either; here's the closest:

http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=477

Given what I know about Ron Paul and his philosophies, I would deduce that his objection to illegal immigration is that our welfare state motivates people to immigrate here for the wrong reasons. I would also believe that once these motivations are removed, those that wanted to move here would only be doing so because they wanted to work to make better lives for themselves. And these people would be welcome. If this were the case, I see no reason for a difficult immigration process or strict requirements (as you've outlined) for moving to the US.

 

[Nefertiti]

Thing is, I could just marry a nice accommodating American male, get my citizenship and then divorce him. But I won't.

I knew a woman once who had been an engineer. She divorced her first husband, who was a bit of a loser, and found a very very wealthy husband to replace him in her late 30s, and was able to quit working and pursue her hobbies full time. Her advice to myself and some other younger women at the time was this, "Don't marry a man just for money, but go to places where you only will meet wealthy men." The point was you put yourself in situations at all times that will expose you to men with the qualities you are seeking, so that you are not attracted to the wrong men and so that you are able to make a choice among those that have the right qualities plus the extra something that will make you compatible with him. I don't know where you can find a concentration of American men in England but this strategy might work for you and you will remain within the law because you will find someone you will want to stay with in the long term.

PS-Having a child in the US does not entitle you to a visa or citizenship. From a strictly legal standpoint, your child could petition for you to get permanent residency once he was 21, but not any earlier than that.

 

[Corydoras]

This is far and away the best piece I've found on Ron Paul and legal immigration.
http://www.vdare.com/pb/070912_paul.htm

 

[Julia]

Thanks for these replies. Nice to know there are some people around doing the work in an informed manner!

The links were helpful - and I still haven't found any of the congressman's points I don't agree with as politics.

The whole subject of immigration is just a huge disappointment to me personally. I am an alien in my own country - I was born and raised in London but somehow I've always felt I should have been in Alabama or Georgia or Texas or Tennessee. I'm just a southern girl at heart you see!

I own a business in England that could be invaluable to some poorer areas in the South - jobs, services, benefits, community - the whole nine yards. As soon as I have finished raising the cash I'll be opening a new branch in the States.

See you all then! Keep up the great work and make sure we all have a decent president in office when I get there!

Julia

 

[Julia]

Sorry - should have said,

"Finally, completely overhaul the legal immigration process. The current system is incoherent and unfair. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods. "

This is far and away the most reasonable and sensible thing I have ever read on the subject of US immigration.

Have you any idea how frustrating it is to know that if I came from India, Bangladesh, Timbuktoo or goodness knows where else, I could live in the States but because I am from England (common language, cultural heritage, religious philosophy etc etc etc) I can't even apply?

MADDENING!

Rant over - thanks again,

Julia

 

[PennCustom4RP]

I don't know how they got here, but I personally know at least 10 Scots, and a couple Brits who live in my town here in SW Louisiana.

 

[Nefertiti]

Julia-We need more immigrants like you who are willing to do it the legal way. Unfortunately, I think because we have so many who like to flaunt our laws we have to make it harder for those who want to do it the right way to come. It doesn't just apply to potential immigrants but also to tourists. Unfortunately, unless you are from one of 28 countries only, it is very difficult to get a tourist visa to come to the US as they try to screen out those who will overstay their visa.

I'm convinced they fail miserably at this and shut out legitimate tourists and let in those who are just tricking the system because at least with regards to Egypt, even with their strict screening process they allow so many Egyptians to come here on tourist visas who are just coming to work and find an American to marry in order to get permanent residency. And then the immigration authorities allow so many of these to "adjust" their status after they marry on tourist visas even though their marriages are total shams and often involve paying a woman to marry them. We don't really need new laws as much as we need to enforce the ones we have. If people knew there were no loopholes they could jump through once they got here then they would be less likely to come in the first place.

 

[Corydoras]

I own a business in England that could be invaluable to some poorer areas in the South - jobs, services, benefits, community - the whole nine yards. As soon as I have finished raising the cash I'll be opening a new branch in the States.

Too bad this (on the face of it) does not sound like H1-b material, especially since you are a business owner. At least this will give you more time here, though. Have you been here a lot of times? I worry that people romanticize America the way that some Americans think of Edwardian England instead of Cool Britannia.

 

[Julia]

Probably totally irrelevant by now but I thought I'd say it anyway

Have I been to the States a lot of times? Oh YES! not much romance left, I'm afraid!

I've been in and out for the past 22 years.

It's a bit of a tough one though. If I use the visa waiver system, I have the chance of being thrown out on the next plane home even if I just plan to do Disney World for 3 weeks.

If I apply for a visa before I come it cost me going on $200 and I get a delightful interview with one of the rudest Americans you could ever hope to meet. Where do they recruit Embassy staff from? Is there a special "rude and nasty" school somewhere? I never met anyone so rude anywhere is the States - not even in Brooklyn, LA or even DC! The visa itself, even the cost or the interview wouldn't be too much of a problem, but if they refuse the visa I'm unlikely to be able to enter again EVER.

It's a real dilemma every time I come.

Having said all that, it's sort of similar for Americans in Britain, although I'm told it's not quite so unpleasant a process. But we let Africans, Indians, Europeans - in fact practically anyone including the Japanese work and invest here. But Americans, South Aricans and Australians have the terrible trouble.

There must be some agenda I don't know about in the recesses of the new world order.

Oh well.

Great results in Nevada, guys. Well done!