Open your eyes: Huckabee people are on our side...

Yep, I insulted their candidate and I'm certainly feeling in a fiesty mood but do we really have time to be all nicey nice and wait another 8 years for them to realize they made a mistake in helping get McINSANE elected? Maybe I could've been a little more congenial... Maybe you could add me to your prayer list (I'm not trying to be wise or funny). I'd feel much more comfortable working with them if they would at least distance themselves from McCain... Like saying they won't support him no matter what Huck says or does

I truly believe that McCain is more dangerous than either of the Democrats! At least the Republicans in the House and Senate will be fighting the socialist policies of Hillary/Obama... who will be opposing the socialist policies of McCain?

I love how everyone throws out insults and then expects civility in return... but this one time I'll go back and edit my comments
 
And if Huck's (mike coughs :rolleyes: ) Army can't figure out what's going on, oh well... We have over 18,000 registered member on this site alone and we have soooooo many more sites out there...

Let me see, how many members do they have on F3... 557 (and 1/2 of them are us)

My suggestion is to ignore them and keep our eyes on the ball... getting our delegates elected and spreading the message. If they want to help us, GREAT but I've seen nothing from them but talk (and poor tactics and strategies) and now they are poised to hop on the InSane Train... that's not the direction I'm headed Brother!

But I will pray for them... the same prayer Jesus said on the cross: "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."
 
That is such bs. He has done the most to help people understand. God damnit, he takes insanely complicated issues - and does what many find so hard, he simplifies them so that people CAN UNDERSTAND. He does it extraordinarily well. The man has been a catalyst for waking up so many people its not even funny. Not just in the USA, we're talking the world over. I just had to hear the man speak. And for many others, thats all it took.

I understand and that's great. But, unfortunately a whole lot of people have not heard him give a speech and the soundbytes they heard from the debates didn't sell them on Ron. The media talking heads certainly didn't help either, nor did the poorly run campaign.

By the way, do you remember that personality test that a bunch of people on here took some time back. A whole lot of us were one of the more rare personality types. Do you recall? Maybe this is why we got it so quickly, while others did not. I don't know. For me, I was brought up with this stuff from almost the first day I was born. Or at least it seems like that. It's a lot for a new person to take in all at one time. That's why I'm thinking that we need to stay focused on the fundamentals.

If anyone struggles to understand, or comprehend what he's saying. Then ignorance is paramount. (Quite obviously; and for all those ignorant, of what it means to be ignorant - go look that shit up. Hmm K. It's not directly associated with stupidity - get a clue thanks.) So its either that, or someones had too much fluoride.

Most people are not going to take the time to go look up what Paul says about monetary policy, etc. to try to understand it. It is up to the candidate to explain their position in terms that the voting public understands. People need to know what is in it for them. Why they should care about returning government to its constitutional bounds. I know it sounds obvious, but some people truly don't get it. The media kept repeating those things that they knew would scare other Republicans off from Paul. Him being a Libertarian (rather than a Republican.:rolleyes:), the stuff about getting rid of the CIA, the FBI, etc. I understand it and agree with him, but that does not mean it didn't scare a whole lot of other people. People are scared of extremes. I didn't say I agreed with them, but that is just the reality of the situation.

Ron Paul does NOT speak in sound bites. Which is the problem to start with (NOT HIS) its the MSM's and how talking points are framed. If you SAY stuff like that, get rid of the CIA etc, and don't have more than a few sentences to elaborate you come off as a kook. Ron Paul always managed to get the full context across.

I understand, but he knew after awhile that was all he was going to get. Or should have. So, you either adapt to the situation, or you fail.

Give blame where its due. It certainly doesn't fall at his feet. 30 years of the same thing. You've been following for 20years, and you still don't understand? I spouse it depends on what degree, you'd classify as 'understanding' but on a basic level, if you can't get there from listening to him speak. Something is very, very wrong.

LOL. I get there. But unless you want to continue with doing nothing more than preaching to the choir, we need to branch out a bit. I admire the man a great deal, but that does not mean I cannot be honest about the situation.
 
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Yeah, even if you disagree with them on everything but one thing, isn't it better to work with them on that one thing than to not? We should be branching out.

And I say this for two reasons.

1. First, you are much more likely to make progress on the issue you do agree on.
2. You may well open up some dialog on issues you disagree on, and come up with some kind of solution.

That is why I joined F3 Coalition. If you guys are interested, by all means join. Go there, but be polite and kind. Impressions are just as important to many as ideas are. www.f3coalition.org

That isn't an excuse to stop working on the Ron Paul Revolution though, we need to be here planning our efforts on the RP Campaign and on our future as well.
 
Some of them at least... I realize there was a recent thread posted in this board. This thread was very unclear, but the title had "Huckabee" in it, so people thought Huckabee people were doing something against us.

What Ron Paul and Huckabee supporters need to realize is that we are fighting for essentially the same thing. We are both working for limited government and working against socialism... for religious freedom... for gun rights, for fiscal conservatism... etc.

I have been involved in a group started by Huckabee people. This is a group for conservatives (I know of 1 or 2 other RP people there). We are looking for congressional campaigns to help out, and we are planning on helping MANY of the SAME people that we help here.

Sure, there are things we don't agree with as well. In fact, I've debated these there and frankly I think they just don't realize that Mike isn't much of a fiscal conservative. And as far as us, they might say Ron Paul is a fiscal conservative but a social libertarian. But who cares... we are moving on. This is about limiting government and it doesn't matter because there are small things or... things that don't even apply anymore.

I've heard people say that the future of the Republican party is the Huckabee people and the Ron Paul people. And you know, I'd have to agree. They can work with us... their problem is that they have a few more Republican establishment people... they don't nesacarily like that either though. Both of us agree that there is something wrong with the party and the country. Let's do something about it.

You also forgot to include Duncan Hunter. He stands for conservatism and his supporters have a huge block on the war views of Ron Paul but they have a lot in common with other views. Its worthwhile to spend some of your time trying to talk to them and their delegates.

They despise Mccain when they hear about his amnesty views.
 
You also forgot to include Duncan Hunter. He stands for conservatism and his supporters have a huge block on the war views of Ron Paul but they have a lot in common with other views. Its worthwhile to spend some of your time trying to talk to them and their delegates.

They despise Mccain when they hear about his amnesty views.

Hunter is for globalism, a huge federal government and increasing the military-industrial complex. Sorry, social convervatism and immigration controls are not all there is to conservatism.
 
Hunter is for globalism, a huge federal government and increasing the military-industrial complex. Sorry, social convervatism and immigration controls are not all there is to conservatism.

Wow runder, I am curious if you missed the whole point of his post, or the whole point of the OP. Good job on that.

The whole point is, we agree with him on gun control and immigration. Shouldn't we foster a friendship with them on the things we do agree with, and work with them? I swear, for being the smartest supporters, we sure do have some dense comments on these boards.
 
Well DTS, everyone usually has some sort of expectations about other people and it is a rare individual who can take those dashed/unfulfilled expectations in stride ;)
 
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