OMG - Just in from Pensacola - TRAGIC!

It is tragic, and there you have the douchebag governor with his phot ops, bent down on the shore while you have 3 or four people with shovels.

We all know, so much more could have been done to prevent this crap from hitting the beaches. There was no response for weeks, and the damn federal government is disallowing the states and private companies from around the world to clean up the mess while it is still in the gulf and not the shores.

And this will all be used to push through the climate bills, since global warming, I mean climate change has has fallen on its face.

They have a few more months left, and this is the environmental 911 they needed.

What pisses me off is you know damn good and well some anti-american psycopaths are celebrating this right now. Some of them are there right now filming it, so that it can grace the front cover of time magazine.
 
I have surfed many many many times right at that pier. I've taken dates there, I've seen one of the most beautiful sunrises I have ever seen there, and now...FU BP! :mad:
 
And they just uncapped it again.

Everyone down on the gulf is screwed. I'm not an oceanographer but I can see that this is going to decimate the gulf coast.
 
So should they be constantly cleaning the beaches, or wait till all of the oil has come ashore and then clean up the mess? Seems to me it would be much like shoveling snow. Just wait till all of the snow has fallen and then shovel it up.
 
I have surfed many many many times right at that pier. I've taken dates there, I've seen one of the most beautiful sunrises I have ever seen there, and now...

And now what?

Do you think you won't be able to do all those things again? Are we supposed to pretend this is some kind of permanent destruction of that beach like the people in that forum linked in the OP saying melodramatic things like, "Good bye, Ocean."?
 
And now what?

Do you think you won't be able to do all those things again? Are we supposed to pretend this is some kind of permanent destruction of that beach like the people in that forum linked in the OP saying melodramatic things like, "Good bye, Ocean."?

Exactly! Once all of the oil has collected on the beach, they can clean it up and everything will be just peachy.
 
So should they be constantly cleaning the beaches, or wait till all of the oil has come ashore and then clean up the mess? Seems to me it would be much like shoveling snow. Just wait till all of the snow has fallen and then shovel it up.
You are right, current limited hand cleanup efforts are only for show.

It just takes funding.

They scoop it up with bulldozers and take it to a processing plant, remove all the oil in mass and return it. We've moved more material for big construction projects around the country.

Not that I like the idea, but it's not that it's ruined forever. Just hope the funding keeps flowing.
 
I do NOT expect BP or anybody else to live up to the task here, so I am in no way trying to defend their pathetic looking effort...however I WILL say that were I in charge of the cleanup here I would want to see a larger proportion come ashore first BEFORE I started lifting topsoil. There's only going to be so much of the sandy topsoil to lift up and truck out...

If I were in charge of the cleanup, I'd try and hold until 1/3 of the expected nasty washed ashore, and then dredge it up with an excavator. One of those giant 2-story ones. We already know how to put heavy equipment on a beach (See Normandy) A few iron plates and you are golden. Then I'd clear off the beach and let the next 1/3 wash in and dig it up and truck it out, and the final 1/3.

I think that would clean it up eventually while losing as little of the sandy topsoil as possible.

So that MIGHT explain the current pathetic-looking response...

but as I said before, I have zero expectations that these people will accomplish this. All I'm saying is if I were in charge my current effort there would look pretty pathetic too....
 
Not so bad; easy cleanup.

...FU BP!
The American economy is government controlled and regulated. Offshore drilling particularly so. The responsibility lies with the government, not BP.
 
Um, just have underwater skimmers. High tide brings it in, skimmer keeps it from going out during low tide, collect daily.
 
I lived in Pensacola for 1 1/2 years. I swam those waters, with the rays, the fish, the sharks, and the dolphins. I swam across the bay, I swam through estruarys into creeks. I ran that beach many times. One of the most beautiful and diverse places I've seen. This is a terrible raping of our country. Obama tied our arms and BP raped us.
 
Oh man I'd be pissed if my beaches looked like that.

Dannno, Many many years ago the Santa Barbara beaches had oil seeping through naturally until they put oil wells there . You are too young to know this but I aint. Ha!
 
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