OMG - Just in from Pensacola - TRAGIC!

[Number19]

BP performed no worse than our government does; and the morals exhibited by BP officers are the morals of our society. They did nothing that the vast majority of private citizens don't do in their daily lives. If BP as a corporation deserves to "die" for this accident, then perhaps we also need a mandatory death sentence if you text while driving and have an accident that kills someone. As a society, we reap what we sow.

 

[sailingaway]

Why was it again Obama wouldn't waive the environmental reviews so the governors could build artificial reefs to catch this?

 

[CountryboyRonPaul]

Some videos of my usual fishing grounds.

YouTube - LDWF - Oill Spill and Coastal Habitat Loss (Pass a Loutre WMA)!

YouTube - Oil spill tour 6-17-10-redo.wmv

 

[Matt Collins]

One of the images from that op link:

 

[dannno]

Dannno, Many many years ago the Santa Barbara beaches had oil seeping through naturally until they put oil wells there . You are too young to know this but I aint. Ha!

They still have oil seapage pretty bad in some spots..but they are tar balls, not like that.. From what I've heard it's about the same as it has always been, though some like to claim there is less.

 

[Matt Collins]

Governor Charlie Crist checking out the beaches...

 

[Anti Federalist]

June 23, 2010
Eco-Theatre

Posted by Lew Rockwell on June 23, 2010 11:55 AM

A wildlife biologist visiting my town is “saving birds” in the oil spill, as he did after the Exxon Valdez leak. When the media is around, he and his colleagues are seen carefully cleaning birds, though this is virtually always futile. When the media are absent, they simply twist the poor animals necks, since they are dying. The whole business costs about $5,000 per bird.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/60128.html

 

[Dr.3D]

Governor Charlie Crist checking out the beaches...

He was probably just checking to see if she had tar balls on the bottoms of her feet.

 

[Matt Collins]

He was probably just checking to see if she had tar balls on the bottoms of her feet.

The public safety requiring it.....

 

[susano]

susano you are a dramatist. Dr 3d is right. It will be cleaned up eventually

You need to change your name to Meathead

 

[jmdrake]

Governor Charlie Crist checking out the beaches...

So much for the CC gay rumors.

 

[Dr.3D]

You need to change your name to Meathead

And yours to alarmist.

 

[susano]

June 23, 2010
Eco-Theatre

Posted by Lew Rockwell on June 23, 2010 11:55 AM

A wildlife biologist visiting my town is “saving birds” in the oil spill, as he did after the Exxon Valdez leak. When the media is around, he and his colleagues are seen carefully cleaning birds, though this is virtually always futile. When the media are absent, they simply twist the poor animals necks, since they are dying. The whole business costs about $5,000 per bird.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/60128.html

Video or that's bullshit

 

[Anti Federalist]

Video or that's bullshit

Posted without comment.

Take it up with Rockwell.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Video or that's bullshit

Maybe more to your liking:

Boat captain, despondent over spill, commits suicide

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gre...in-despondent-over-spill-commits-suicide.html

June 23, 2010 | 11:51 am
William Allen Kruse, 55, a charter boat captain recently hired by BP as a vessel of opportunity out of Gulf Shores, Ala., died Wednesday morning before 7:30 a.m. of a gunshot to the head, likely self-inflicted, authorities said.

"He had been quite despondent about the oil crisis," said Stan Vinson, coroner for Baldwin County, which includes Gulf Shores.

Kruse, who lived with his family in nearby Foley, Ala., reported to work Wednesday morning as usual at the Gulf Shores Marina on Fort Morgan Road in Gulf Shores, Vinson said. He met up with his two deckhands at his boat, The Rookie. One of the deckhands later told Vinson that Kruse seemed his usual self, sending them to fetch ice while he pulled the boat around to the gas pumps.

As the deckhands walked off to get ice, they heard what sounded like a firecracker, Vinson said. They turned around but didn't see anything out of the ordinary. So they proceeded to gather the ice and wait for Kruse at the pumps. "He never showed," Vinson said.

After waiting a while, the deckhands returned to the boat, which was moored where they had left it, Vinson said. They went aboard and found Kruse at the captain's bridge above the wheelhouse, Vinson said. He had been shot in the head. A Glock handgun was later recovered from the scene, and investigators do not suspect foul play, Vinson said.

Vinson said Kruse was in good health, did not suffer from any mental illness and was not taking psychotropic medications.

But he said it's not surprising the oil spill had weighed heavily on his mind, as it has on many local fishermen no longer able to support themselves with deep-sea sport fishing trips for marlin and the like, Vinson said.

"All the waters are closed. There's no charter business anymore. You go out on some of the beaches now, with the oil, you can't even get in the water," Vinson said. "It's really crippled the tourism and fishing industry here."

Vinson's office was to perform an autopsy Wednesday, and the Gulf Shores Police Department is still investigating. Det. Justin Clopton did not return calls.

Kruse's family was notified by Wednesday afternoon, Vinson said, and his deckhands were sent home for the day.

-- Molly Hennessy-Fiske

 

[susano]

And yours to alarmist.

At what point do you consider being alarmed appropriate? Maybe if you lived there you would be alarmed, like people who bother to make these videos.

That oil can't just be shoveled up like snow, and nobody knows when it will stop coming, either. It's deep in the sand. I've posted other video of that in Destin. The hairbrained comments about how easy this is to clean up are just stupid beyond belief. The time to contain the oil is BEFORE it gets in the marshes and on shore, and that could have been and could be done. That doesn't meet the corporate-gov't objective, though. That won't help get cap & trade (which BP helped write and supports) passed. This is an environmental 9/11 and there are agendas behind the destruction.

Also, you unfeeling, sociopathic fuckers need your faces shoved in that oil. Maybe then you might get some empathy for the marine life. Then again, prolly not.

 

[susano]

Maybe more to your liking:

Boat captain, despondent over spill, commits suicide

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gre...in-despondent-over-spill-commits-suicide.html

June 23, 2010 | 11:51 am
William Allen Kruse, 55, a charter boat captain recently hired by BP as a vessel of opportunity out of Gulf Shores, Ala., died Wednesday morning before 7:30 a.m. of a gunshot to the head, likely self-inflicted, authorities said.

"He had been quite despondent about the oil crisis," said Stan Vinson, coroner for Baldwin County, which includes Gulf Shores.

Kruse, who lived with his family in nearby Foley, Ala., reported to work Wednesday morning as usual at the Gulf Shores Marina on Fort Morgan Road in Gulf Shores, Vinson said. He met up with his two deckhands at his boat, The Rookie. One of the deckhands later told Vinson that Kruse seemed his usual self, sending them to fetch ice while he pulled the boat around to the gas pumps.

As the deckhands walked off to get ice, they heard what sounded like a firecracker, Vinson said. They turned around but didn't see anything out of the ordinary. So they proceeded to gather the ice and wait for Kruse at the pumps. "He never showed," Vinson said.

After waiting a while, the deckhands returned to the boat, which was moored where they had left it, Vinson said. They went aboard and found Kruse at the captain's bridge above the wheelhouse, Vinson said. He had been shot in the head. A Glock handgun was later recovered from the scene, and investigators do not suspect foul play, Vinson said.

Vinson said Kruse was in good health, did not suffer from any mental illness and was not taking psychotropic medications.

But he said it's not surprising the oil spill had weighed heavily on his mind, as it has on many local fishermen no longer able to support themselves with deep-sea sport fishing trips for marlin and the like, Vinson said.

"All the waters are closed. There's no charter business anymore. You go out on some of the beaches now, with the oil, you can't even get in the water," Vinson said. "It's really crippled the tourism and fishing industry here."

Vinson's office was to perform an autopsy Wednesday, and the Gulf Shores Police Department is still investigating. Det. Justin Clopton did not return calls.

Kruse's family was notified by Wednesday afternoon, Vinson said, and his deckhands were sent home for the day.

-- Molly Hennessy-Fiske

Why would another tragic death, due to this horror show, be to my liking? I posted that news at GLP.

 

[jmdrake]

Video or that's bullshit

I don't have a video, but NPR did an story the other day of a wildlife biologist who claimed research showed cleaning birds was a waste of time and money since most died anyway.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127749940

Something else to consider. Worse spills have happened. (What makes this one so bad is we don't know what the end game will be.) And each time the ocean bounces back and all the whales and dolphins don't die. That doesn't mean would shouldn't demand accountability. We should. But some of the concern is starting to stretch into hysteria.

Here's an excerpt from an article about earlier spills.

http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=ask_this.view&askthisid=462

Almost all oil spills are harmful. But the three largest in history – the Kuwait disaster in the first Gulf War, Mexico’s 1979 Ixtoc I well blowout in the Gulf of Mexico, and the 1979 Agean Captain-Atlantic Empress supertanker collision off Trinidad – all spilled far more oil than BP has so far, yet they left far less long-term damage behind than forecasts at the time predicted. And unlike the oft-cited Exxon Valdez spill in the much colder and less forgiving Alaskan waters, these three occurred in warm water environments similar to that of the BP spill. How much have the apocalyptic forecasts of the current spill’s long-term effects been based on worries and fears and how much on fact? Why has so little attention been paid to reports like the 1993 study by UNESCO, the United States, and Arab countries which found that the vast 1991 Kuwait spill – the spill extended more than 4,000 square miles – did “little long-term damage”? Weren’t seabirds nesting safely in the spill area the following year? What factors make the BP spill different? (Later reports, emerging after the BP spill, said the 1993 study understated effects. One said there has been heavy impact along coastal marshes. Another focused on the lack of clean-up efforts, which is unlikely to be a problem this time.)

Seen Trinidad's beeches lately?

 

[susano]

One ton of crude oil equals 7.3 barrels

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_barrels_of_crude_oil_EQUALS_one_ton_of_gas_oil


On this day in 1979, two gigantic supertankers collide off the island of Little Tobago in the Caribbean Sea, killing 26 crew members and spilling 280,000 tons of crude oil into the sea.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/7/19?catId=5

280,000 divided by 7.3 = 38,356.16 barrels

Did I do that right? If so, this isn't even close to one DAY of the Macondo well spew.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

We all know, so much more could have been done to prevent this crap from hitting the beaches. There was no response for weeks, and the damn federal government is disallowing the states and private companies from around the world to clean up the mess while it is still in the gulf and not the shores.

There was immediate action taken to keep this from hitting the beaches. It was the use of dispersants to make the oil break up and sink. It didn't work completely, and they didn't really consider any other options.