Olbermann: "Huckabee compares gay marriage to pedophilia and bestiality."

[Matt_R]

'Bigotry', this is the famous Marxist argument, and the above response shows how much indoctrination and pscyh warfare has gone on in this country, and Marxist 'political correctness' is what spreads through communist countries. The writer of this post won't believe what I'm saying, and if he goes back and studies history and societies where this has happened, he will no longer say 'slippery slope' is a logical fallacy. All it take is to study history, it does repeat itself.

And I'm sure you realize that you are doing the same thing you are talking of, using propaganda. This time, it's just anti-communist propaganda I'm sure you were exposed to as a kid, as I can tell you are slightly older than the average age around here. Your religion has been used to make you believe restricting social freedoms are illegal.

You make comparisons to kidnappings, rape, and murder, as if they all even come close to the non-aggression policy. This country was founded on very libertarian principles, freedom of choice, expression, speech, assembly, etc. If you feel homosexuality is disgusting, it is your god given right to believe so, but that is were your right ends. You believe it is your right to restrict it because it is blasphemous in the eyes of your religion and yourself. This is were the non-aggression libertarian principles come in, if it does no harm to anyone that is not consenting, it is acceptable.

You have a right to morally oppose homosexuality, to assemble to protest it, to hand out pamphlets calling homosexuals evil pigs, but other people also have the right to call you a disgusting socially backwards bigot and homosexuals have the right to be with one another, as it affects nobody outside themselves.

 

[Telkandore]

Telkandore you need to read Nietzsche again...

I guess I missed the part where Nietzsche encouraged adherence to church dogma and the suppression of instincts. Could you freshen me up on that a bit?

 

[Telkandore]

BTW Sandy, written any good newsletters lately?

 

[Marc3579]

I don't see how allowing gay marriage is going extrapolate to marrying an animal of your choice. As stated before, you have the right to morally object to gay marriage. But, it doesn't mean that you can or should restrict others rights to marry if they choose.

If you advertise that you think gays are evil slimy pigs, and don't expect them to say something against you? That flies directly against logic. If you were to walk up to a friend of mine and tell them that, I wouldn't try to stop them from calling you a bigot. I'd be more prone to agree with them. They have the right to speak back to you. I may disagree with homosexuality, it isn't for me. Doesn't mean I'm gonna start to run back and forth saying they are wrong. I believe they deserve as many rights as straight people have. They bleed red, they have the same problems we have. Oh, and imagine that... They all put on their pants one leg at a time!

 

[wildflower]

20. Why? Is it immature to understand the truth about asceticism and universal moral codes? The reason fox news covers such foolish "moral" issues is to rile illogical emotional support. No one's gonna force you to get a gay marriage, you know. This has nothing to do with you so why don't you just let other people live their own lives? Go read some of the things people were saying about the havoc racial integration would wreak.

My guess was about right. As far as your comment about "understanding the truth", well I'm glad you're omniscient and have it all figured out at the ripe old age of 20. I thought I knew everything too, at that age. And no, that's not an argument, just an observation.

I'm not going to get into a big debate right now, because it's 3:45 in the morning and I gotta go, but maybe if I have time I'll get back to this tomorrow. Because you aren't being consistent. You are discriminating, without even realizing it, and your argument is logically flawed. In fact, the entire worldview that you seem to be espousing is logically flawed. But that's a whole other debate.

 

[rfbz]

My guess was about right. As far as your comment about "understanding the truth", well I'm glad you're omniscient and have it all figured out at the ripe old age of 20. I thought I knew everything too, at that age. And no, that's not an argument, just an observation.

Actually I thought Telkandore had some good points, I just don't agree that the slippery slope argument is always a fallacy. Getting on him for being 20 is pretty cheap and diverting from the argument.

 

[Matt_R]

http://grove.ufl.edu/~ggsa/gaymarriage.html

 

[ryanmkeisling]

Wtf?

I thought this was a Ron Paul Forum? Not Social/Moral Philosophy 101. We are all Ron Paul supporters, right? Regardless of our sex, age, religion, philosophy or orientation we are here to support RON PAUL and we can all agree on one thing: we want Ron Paul as the next President of the United States of America.

If you guys added up all of the time you spent formulating your convoluted arguments with each other, cheap jabs, and pointless rhetoric, I'll bet that 10 people if not more could have been convinced to vote for Ron Paul. I would hope the campaign is not paying for the bandwith being wasted...

 

[LibertyEagle]

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[Goldwater Conservative]

I think allowing same-sex marriage would open the door to group marriages (polygamy), but the pedophilia and bestiality charges have little merit since there exists no precedent for "consenting adult" meaning children or animals.

I don't see what's wrong with Paul's position, that is, privatize the dang institution. Getting a driver's license is one thing, since you're driving on public roads, but getting a marriage license makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

 

[LibertyEagle]

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[charger]

I'm with Huck on this one!
Marrage is between a man and a women.

There is no law stopping homosexuals from doing what they are doing but they shouldn't try and push their sick perverted veiws off as normal.
In the mind of Gay's they need their relationship to be called marriage so that they can feel better about what they are doing.
I think many know what they are doing is un-natural and wrong that is why they are looking for some type of approval from others.
It is just as wrong to force me to accept homosexuals as being normal as it would be for me to try and pass a law that stops them from practicing what they want to do.

 

[familydog]

Google NAMBLA.

 

[Knightskye]

I'm with Huck on this one!
Marrage is between a man and a women.

There is no law stopping homosexuals from doing what they are doing but they shouldn't try and push their sick perverted veiws off as normal.

You shouldn't try to push your bigoted views as normal. "Marriage is between a man and a woman." The Constitution does not mention marriage, and because of that, the 10th Amendment gives that power to the states to decide whether or not it should be legal. Actually, the Constitution says "to the states, or to the people," but we don't have Gravel's "National Initiative for Democracy", so I guess that doesn't count. But if there's millions of people like you, maybe it's better like that.

 

[minitri97]

I'm with Huck on this one!
Marrage is between a man and a women.

There is no law stopping homosexuals from doing what they are doing but they shouldn't try and push their sick perverted veiws off as normal.
In the mind of Gay's they need their relationship to be called marriage so that they can feel better about what they are doing.
I think many know what they are doing is un-natural and wrong that is why they are looking for some type of approval from others.
It is just as wrong to force me to accept homosexuals as being normal as it would be for me to try and pass a law that stops them from practicing what they want to do.

And we have a winner! I knew this thread would contain a post that should completely turn people off to Ron Paul supporters. Luckily, most people on these forums appear to have some sense. Although in the last week I have noticed a rather high percentage of complete backwards thinking extremist. Not to mention, all the hate threads about other politicians and states that don't vote for Ron Paul. Way to go people! You are doing a fine job of irritating people who MIGHT vote for Ron Paul...IE. ME!