Sounds like your projecting your own feelings into others a tiny bit. Or maybe you and [MENTION=40029]PAF[/MENTION] have different definitions of "hatred." Moses at times had utter contempt for the children of Israel but then asked to die the second death when God decided to call Moses' bluff when Moses' muttered "God damn them" under his breath one to many times and God threatened to wipe them Hebrews out and start over with Moses. I doubt anybody here wants most of our fellow humans to die, even the ones who get on our last nerves by clinging to stupidity with every ounce and fiber of their beings as if, like Terrance Howard, they can make 1 times 1 = 2 if they just argue for it passionately enough. It's like this stupid ass cat eating story which there has yet to be any shred of actual evidence put forward in this long ass thread to back it up. I'm not talking about video of a barbeque somewhere of someone eating something. I'm not talking video of people saying "So and so told me that they saw their cat being eaten by a Haitian" (heresay). I'm talking direct, first hand evidence. And if you challenge people on that they get defensive and make accusations of the type belonging to someone who litterally drank the kool-aid. People are so far gone down their rabbit holes that they can no longer see the light. And that's liberals too. In fact they are the worst. "J.D. Vance admitted he created the story." No he didn't. His dumb ass mispoke. (Or maybe he's trying to sabotague Trump who knows). But that's one extreme. Thats what actual leftists are saying. Then the adlte brained on the right are like "There was a police report that a neighbor ate a cat and that neighbor must have been Hatian even though I don't have the actual police report to prove it." And you know what? Sometimes things are obviously true and you don't have the evidence to prove it. And.....that's okay. Twenty three years ago two planes knocked down three buildings. One of those buildings had previously surviving a bombing by an FBI informant. Do I have the evidence to prove that another FBI informant got it right on 9/11? No I do not. Do I have evidence to suggest that it happened? Absolutely! My acceptance of the limitations of the evidence that doesn't make me a "leftist" or someone who believes the mainstream media that I no longer even watch. But some addle brained people, who are sooooo caught up in their echo chamber that they can't fathom how other people still demand facts would think so.
Anyhow, the first time I heard the word "statist" was on this forum and it was used as a perjorative. I think I first saw [MENTION=198]angelatc[/MENTION] (still in self imposed exile) use the term. You may or may not have used the term. But I've long been under the impression that most people here don't like the state...at least it is until they do. My own view is the state is a means to an end. It's a temporary s[itructure allowed by God as a crutch for humankind that really finds it scary to put their faith in an invisible Almighty and themselves. Because ultimately faith in God is the highest form of individualism despite what the modern godless state will teach you.
1 Samuel 8:4-7 4 So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. 5 They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not follow your ways; now appoint a king to lead us, such as all the other nations have.”
6 But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king.
Judges 21:25 In those days Israel had no king; everyone did as they saw fit.
Isn't it funny that the same Bible that on the one hand makes it sound like Israel was in chaos for lack of a king also says that wanting a king was rejection of God? Yes there should be order, but what should be the source of that order? Is this leftist right in the video below? Is libertarianism really a lie? Do you really need a town mayor and city council and paid police force for people to decide that they need bear proof garbage cans and maybe it's okay to shoot the bears if they actually come into town?
Was the "free state project" just a joke? I have my thoughts on a response video, but I guess I wonder if you simply agree with the leftist here? Anyhow, I neither love nor hate the state. It exists. And it typcially doesn't do what you or I wish it would. And we can argue in finitum on what we think it should do and go "vote harder" and vote our fears and expect things to really change the way we want them to change as opposed to looking at the reality that certain things are destined to change regardless of what we do and that it's probably better to learn to deal with new realities. The current reality is demographics are shifting and voting patterns are shifting and the Black Rock execs behind Trump and Harris have an agenda and in 2020 they got their agenda through without a hitch based on the orange judas goat leading the way (the real bio warfare), and now the welfare addicted MAGA hat wearing white people in Springfield Ohio and the welfare addicted black people in southside Chicage are both slowly starting to see they're getting screwed (though it seems the black people are waking up faster), and people could be talking about how to take advantage of this new reality, but instead we're talking about cats and dirt cookies and whether or not a deep state operative like J.D. Vance is really on our side. (He isn't). We've been here before. The tea party on the right and Occupy Wallstreet on the left were both pissed about the bailouts. But both were made to view the other as the enemy. The state murdered Fred Hampton not because he was a Marxist, but because he started reaching out to the 1960s version of the tea party which was then called "the Young Patriots" and they both reached out to the Latins. We've got the worlds worst mass murderer ever still doing TV interviews and two of the people most responsible for enabling him are running against each other for president as the Democratic and Republican nominee and neither of them are being asked by anybody to hold him responsible for "reasons." The only candidate who actually said "Let's stop this biological research" was forced to drop out of the race and endorse one of the enablers. If Trump wins and stops the bioweapons research masqurading as medical research than great! But I'm not holding my breath because last time he allowed the restarting of the bioweapons research that had been stopped by Obama which forced Fauci to offshore it to China. And maybe he just didn't know. Maybe he was "outsmarted by the deepstate." But, as much as I hate to admit it, on this one thing that makes Obama better than Trump. And yes I know the forum cultists will attack me for saying that because clearly not allowing dangerous gain of function research to be done in the U.S. or funded with tax dollars must have been a "deep state ploy" because Obama can do nothing right and Trump can do nothing wrong and when he does something wrong its not his fault because he's outmanuvered by the deep state or playing infinity-D chess. Or maybe there really is a God and that God directed Obama to do something right for a change and that bought the world a few more years before the pandemic which could have happened years prior to when it did if Fauci had been given the free hand that he wanted. Who knows.
