According to the special prosecutor and other reports, Zimmerman turned himself in and then was subsequently arrested on the 2nd degree murder charge that was issued today.
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According to the special prosecutor and other reports, Zimmerman turned himself in and then was subsequently arrested on the 2nd degree murder charge that was issued today.
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The process wasn't really "short circuited" though. Under Florida law, he should not have been arrested. Police often don't know the law and make an arrest anyway, but these cops apparently called the state attorney's office first and were appraised as to what the actual law says. Zimmerman's biggest mistake was staying quite in the face of the media lynching. Once that started, the law went out the window and this case became all about politics. Zimmerman should have played the race card himself and rallied Floirda's considerable Hispanic community to his side. If he had made it a black vs Hispanic thing, he would have stood a good chance of avoiding charges as Hispanics are more powerful in Florida. He and his lawyers instead chose the "noble" course, and as a result his life is over.
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At the time I posted that is what was showing on TV.. Hence.. "Breaking: NBC News...." The special prosecutor had not spoken at that time. Thanks for the correction.
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^^This.
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Mike Tyson on George Zimmerman: ‘It’s a disgrace he hasn’t been shot yet’
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout...case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout...case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html
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cajuncocoa
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Probably not to most people, I know. Still, it's a careless thing for anyone to say.lol, there's an opinion worthy of consideration
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"Zimmerman stalked him, didn't follow instructions from a superior officer, when they said, 'Stop following the kid." Mike Tyson...
I've seen this repeated over and over...Someone please explain to me how a 911 operator has any authority to tell you what to do?...they
don't...sick of hearing this bullshit...
I've seen this repeated over and over...Someone please explain to me how a 911 operator has any authority to tell you what to do?...they
don't...sick of hearing this bullshit...
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They might not have the "authority" but a NW better damn well listen. A NW is taught that they are to "observe and report"- this is not rocket science. Zimmerman was told that the cops were on their way and they didn't need him to follow.
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Yeah, I don't get how that is so hard to understand, the entire reason they told him he wasn't needed was to avoid a situation where someone might end up dead.
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Didn't you hear the news? A 911 dispatcher is a "superior officer". We plebs are bound by law to slavishly follow any whim or piece of advice they may throw at us. And if we have the audacity to perform a perfectly legal act that they don't like or approve of, then obviously we belong in jail. Who cares if there was a law against it or not? George Zimmerman refused to bow and scrape to the desires of a petty government official. The man is a menace!
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Yeah yeah. So you say. That's your interpretation of the law. The lead investigating officer, Zimmerman's own attornies, and the author of the stand your ground law all disagree with you. But since you think you know everything you'll continue to post the same stuff add naseum. Glad it makes you feel important.
What has bothered me about the constant media comments about this is: how do we know if Zimmerman stopped or didn't stop following Martin? I watched CNN today after the press conference was over and they played the 911 tape again, to the part where they tell Zimmerman not to continue following and he says 'okay'... and then they used the taped voice of Martin's girlfriend as the proof that Zimmerman did not stop following Martin. How is that proof? The girlfriend was on the phone, not in person, she does not know if Zimmerman was still actively following Martin or if Martin just thought he was, or knew he was earlier but wasnt sure at the time of the call - and it's all hearsay anyway. Besides the fact that a 911 dispatcher can only offer advice, not an order, the whole idea that Zimmerman was still following Martin after the 911 call ended is all guess work. Where is the actual proof he was following? It seems to me that people just heard that and ran with it without knowing if it was true or not. I heard endless times that zimmerman continued to follow but nothing to back up that report. Not to mention the idea that the 911 dispatchers would be trained to keep the CALLER out of danger - hence requesting/telling Zimmerman not to follow the person in the hoodie any longer. If Zimmerman chose not to take his own safety into account, that is his own call to make. So it's also being made out like the 911 dispatcher was trying to save Martin, when in fact it was probably more likely they were trained to protect Zimmerman. That comes from my friend who is a 911 dispatcher here in my city.
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Besides that I have seen an interpretation of the 911 background audio that sounds like he actually did follow the dispatchers instructions.
I think we have people here that are buying into the agenda of the left that wish to use this case to pass legislation to take more of our rights.
It is disgrace Mike Tyson is even printed in the media about anything. He was a boxer, not much of a thinker.
Not to mention a nice rap sheet of his own .cbc.ca/sports/story/2002/01/30/tyson-crime020130.html
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No, that is the law. And it has nothing to do with Stand Your Ground. Read the statutes in Florida. You might learn something. Immunity from prosecution under 776.032 applies to both 776.013 (Stand Your Ground) and 776.012.
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All this about simply talking to a neighbor to see if they live in your neighborhood is nonsense. Zimmerman did no such thing. the moment he saw Martin he should have calmly approached him, as everyone here is in agreement you have the right to do, and asked him if he lived there. He didn't do that. He stalked him.
Is there ANYONE here who would not feel threatened if some random stranger is stalking you?
Is there ANYONE here who would not feel threatened if some random stranger is stalking you?
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Casting legitimate discussion and disagreement as "buying into the left agenda...to take more of our rights" is baseless hyperbole and accomplishes nothing.
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Unfortunately anyone who's name can be recognized for anything ever is a legitimate target for social commentary. Sad but true.
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