**Official** Trayvon Martin thread

[MikeStanart]

I'm so sick of hearing about this story.

My opionion is: People are spending WAY too much damned time on this; a jury will determine the outcome & justice will be served.

This story does not warrant this much of our attention.

 

[moo]

ironic people supporting lynch mobs with shotty information and no trial

if there was no mob this case wouldve been swept under the rug. the mob is here because we WANT this case to go to trial so we CAN get factual information. we don't know why trayvon was murdered and parents need to know what we must do to prevent this from happening to other children.

 

[dillo]

Maybe people will learn to get actual facts and details before they call for lynch mobs or make radical opinions. Some day

 

[onlyrp]

this is classic flat out ad hominem, what does a person's background have to do with what happened the moment before Zimmerman decided to shoot Trayvon?

 

[onlyrp]

I'm so sick of hearing about this story.

My opionion is: People are spending WAY too much damned time on this; a jury will determine the outcome & justice will be served.

This story does not warrant this much of our attention.

oh yes it does! because racism is always an issue in elections, and so are guns. you wanna keep your guns? then pay attention to what the populus are whining about.

 

[dillo]

if there was no mob this case wouldve been swept under the rug. the mob is here because we WANT this case to go to trial so we CAN get factual information. we don't know why trayvon was murdered and parents need to know what we must do to prevent this from happening to other children.

Oh so this 10,000 person mob will be satisfied for a not guilty verdict or a non trial if the prosecutor feels no law has been broken?

 

[silverhandorder]

if there was no mob this case wouldve been swept under the rug. the mob is here because we WANT this case to go to trial so we CAN get factual information. we don't know why trayvon was murdered and parents need to know what we must do to prevent this from happening to other children.

Why aren't you making a mob for the kids mentioned couple of posts above yours?

 

[moo]

Why aren't you making a mob for the kids mentioned couple of posts above yours?

why are you waiting for someone else to bring awareness to a crime you feel deserves media attention?

 

[RonPaulMall]

There's nothing strange about it at all.

Someone who is Hispanic is either from a Spanish-speaking country, or have heritage from Spanish-speaking countries. Their race is independent of that. Hispanics can be black, white, Native American, or any other race.

As a White Hispanic myself, I can assure you there ever since the Clinton administration, it has been the unofficial policy of the government and the MSM to pretend that there is not such thing as a white (or black, or asian for that matter) Hispanic. They have done everything in their power to promote the idea that Hispanic is a separate race. The return of the "White Hispanic" to the MSM's lexicon is painfully revealing as to what their agenda is in this case. And of course the most ridiculous aspect of this whole thing is that while White Hispanics certainly exist, Zimmerman is most obviously NOT one of them! The fact he looks so mestizo despite having a white American father indicates his mother must be very, very mestizo.

 

[silverhandorder]

why are you waiting for someone else to bring awareness to a crime you feel deserves media attention?

This is not about me, it is about you being fake. If you actually feel the way you do you should be spreading awareness about all these cases.

 

[RonPaulMall]

if there was no mob this case wouldve been swept under the rug. the mob is here because we WANT this case to go to trial so we CAN get factual information. we don't know why trayvon was murdered and parents need to know what we must do to prevent this from happening to other children.

Again, you have a completely mistaken understanding of the American Justice system. A trial is not a search for the truth. It is an adversarial proceeding in which the state is accusing someone of a crime! It is a testament to how far we have gone towards complete totalitarianism that so many people, on a freaking Ron Paul site!, think the state has a right to arrest someone absent probable cause of a crime. If you want factual information, what you should be calling for is an investigation, not a trial. A trial is what happens after the factual information has been assembled, and that factual information is sufficient that the prosecution believes a crime has occurred and that the accused is guilty of that crime.

 

[moo]

This is not about me, it is about you being fake. If you actually feel the way you do you should be spreading awareness about all these cases.

if that is the case why are you against THIS murder?

 

[silverhandorder]

if that is the case why are you against THIS murder?

I am not sure what you mean. But to clarify I don't think kids should be shot for walking down a street. I also don't trust police or our courts to actually provide justice for the shooter or for the family.

So since this is a clusterfuck I would rather attention be pointed at utter failure of public police. This way we can actually speak about real issue here and put our effort into a real solution. I am not holding out any hope that it will actually happen. I predict people will be divided on this and political whores will be able to take advantage of both sides.

As people pointed out divide and conquer.

 

[40oz]

Actually, from the facts presented thus far, it is absolutely a textbook case of self defense. In what crazy world is going outside to ask a suspicious lurker who he is and what he's doing constitute "instigating an altercation"? This is a free country. You, I, or George Zimmerman have every right to follow a stranger in public, and when we catch up to them and get their attention, ask them any question we so desire. And likewise, the person we are talking to has every right to tell us to "fuck off", and walk away. What they don't have the right to do is physically assault us. And that is what Trayvon Martin is accused of doing, and why according to the SYG law this was a justifiable homicide.

Are you sure that's what happened? We need to know if Zimmerman tried to detain Martin or if Martin rushed Zimmerman instead of telling him to "fuck off".

 

[moo]

i understand there is a double standard and it is unfair but in this particular case, a man killed an innocent child and wasn't arrested because of that "stand your ground" law. that law puts innocent children at risk for being murdered.

 

[silverhandorder]

i understand there is a double standard and it is unfair but in this particular case, a man killed an innocent child and wasn't arrested because of that "stand your ground" law. that law puts innocent children at risk for being murdered.

And cops shoot kids all the time in the exact same circumstances. Again why this so special?

 

[dawnbt]

I wasn't really following the story much, just catching the headlines. But what I read in the report above differs completely from the media story, and that is the point - the story the media chooses to sell to us, as we all should be a little more sensitive to than many others.

The media is portraying him as what looks likes an innocent 14 year old, when he was possibly according to this story a trouble-making gang member with a "No Limit" attitude who may have just recently swung at a bus drive, and was confronted by some guy in a neighborhood he wasn't from. They were likely both in the wrong at some point during the confrontation, and Zimmerman probably shouldn't have followed him and maybe should have left it to the police since they were on they way (where ironically this kid's chances of getting beaten or shot would have been likely higher, unfortunately). I don't know if this Zimmerman's life was in danger when he felt he had to pull the trigger, or not. I don't yet know who started the confrontation, and who was doing what to whom when the trigger was pulled. But the 6'3" young man described in this article is a different picture than the one being portrayed by the media, and everyone has already jumped to their conclusions based upon it.

And no, his pot use, tattoos, and his investment in precious metals to cover his teeth have nothing to do with it.

Exactly! +1 rep!

The point is the angle that the media is portraying this and convicting Zimmerman in the public eye. Looking and acting like a thug doesn't give right to kill a man, that's not the point here. The point is calling the media out on their bias crap. We all know the days of honest journalism is over, but believe it or not there are TONS of people who are still in the fog. This blatant manipulation of the truth needs to be exposed to those who unquestionably believe everything they see on the news. Unfortunately, this tragedy needs to be left to the authorities in a court of law. Unfortunately, for Zimmerman, regardless of what evidence comes out, he's already been convicted in the public eye.

 

[moo]

And cops shoot kids all the time in the exact same circumstances. Again why this so special?

im sorry but if you do not understand the severity of this case & why lives are at risk then you should really stop posting and move on to another thread.

 

[BamaAla]

And cops shoot kids all the time in the exact same circumstances. Again why this so special?

You're arguing with a troll. I'd step away.

 

[silverhandorder]

You're arguing with a troll. I'd step away.

I know he is a troll hence why I am not getting mad. Sometimes easiest thing to do is to show how silly the troll is.