**Official** Trayvon Martin thread

misterx said:
Then she probably would not have been able to knock Zimmerman to the ground and pin him down. Also, the police report says he was 160 lbs and I think 6'2".
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Interesting:

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/new...in-shooting-death-initial-police-reports.html

That report says he was 6'0" and 160 lbs and Zimmerman was 5'9" and...he's weight's not listed? WTF? Anyhow, I've seen people here drone on and on about how Trayvon was "6 inches taller than Zimmerman". Well...maybe not. And Zimmerman outweighed Trayvon by....well we can't tell because the stupid Sanford cops didn't record his weight. And these are the people who'e investigation we are supposed to trust?
 
The pictures coming out are in resonse to the 12 and 14 year old pictures which have been presented to portray the victim as being a younger defenseless child and are dishonest. The truth will always eventually prevail where as lies fall apart.
MelissaWV said:
The flipping-the-bird pic was blurred and backlit. It looked a bit like him to me, but it also didn't matter.

I am sure that the people who used this to paint him as a "thug" are going to backtrack now.

Nahhh.
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Here is my speculation since everyone is entitled to their own speculation on this.

This is a tragic incidence and parents of the victim had the full right to press for a thorough investigation as they are.


This however did not warrant Obama to stoke the issue by invoking his unborn look alike son, his inserting himself in the middle of this could be "race card" politics that his handlers may have instructed him to play.

Probably over zealous watching by a cop wannabe and even some racial bias could have been involved but this is not a gripping black white race war story that some are trying to make it out to be. If recent reports are factual, the shooter himself is a minority, a young man with hispanic-jewish heredity whereas victim is an african-american teen. Best for all sides/media/Obama advisors to take a breath and support a thorough investigation to ensure justice.
 
Here is my speculation since everyone is entitled to their own speculation on this.

This is a tragic incidence and parents of the victim had the full right to press for a thorough investigation as they are.


This however did not warrant Obama to stoke the issue by invoking his unborn look alike son, his inserting himself in the middle of this could be "race card" politics that his handlers may have instructed him to play.

Probably over zealous watching by a cop wannabe and even some racial bias could have been involved but this is not a gripping black white race war story that some are trying to make it out to be. If recent reports are factual, the shooter himself is a minority, a young man with hispanic-jewish heredity whereas victim is an african-american teen. Best for all sides/media/Obama advisors to take a breath and support a thorough investigation to ensure justice.
 
So many different threads on this. Here is my speculation since everyone is entitled to their own speculation on this.

This is a tragic incidence and parents of the victim had the full right to press for a thorough investigation as they are.


This however did not warrant Obama to stoke the issue by invoking his unborn look alike son, his inserting himself in the middle of this could be "race card" politics that his handlers may have instructed him to play.

Probably over zealous watching by a cop wannabe and even some racial bias could have been involved but this is not a gripping black white race war story that some are trying to make it out to be. If recent reports are factual, the shooter himself is a minority, a young man with hispanic-jewish heredity whereas victim is an african-american teen. Best for all sides/media/Obama advisors to take a breath and support a thorough investigation to ensure justice.
 
So many different threads on this. Here is my speculation since everyone is entitled to their own speculation on this.

This is a tragic incidence and parents of the victim had the full right to press for a thorough investigation as they are.


This however did not warrant Obama to stoke the issue by invoking his unborn look alike son, his inserting himself in the middle of this could be "race card" politics that his handlers may have instructed him to play.

Probably over zealous watching by a cop wannabe and even some racial bias could have been involved but this is not a gripping black white race war story that some are trying to make it out to be. If recent reports are factual, the shooter himself is a minority, a young man with hispanic-jewish heredity whereas victim is an african-american teen. Best for all sides/media/Obama advisors to take a breath and support a thorough investigation to ensure justice.
 
moo said:
THIS IS A NEW ONE. Trayvon verbally attacked zimmerman by saying "do you have a problem?" "you do now"
:D:D:D omg this is hilarious but i'll play with this story too.

there is no evidence of trayvon verbally attacking anyone but what we do have is zimmerman verbally attacking trayvon by calling him an ASSHOLE and a COON so trayvon had the right to SYG & defend himself from zimmerman's verbal attacks.
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A verbal assault is a threat of violence.

Calling somebody an asshole or a coon is not a threat of violence. Telling somebody they have a problem, and insinuating that they are that problem, and then proceeding to come at them and violently attack them is a verbal assault followed by a physical attack. It's basically like saying, "I'm going to beat your ass".
 
DerailingDaTrain said:
Also, why do you keep leaving out the other witnesses?
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I'm not leaving out the other witnesses. The other visual witnesses corroborated Zimmerman's story without contradicting it. They saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating his head in. The only witness who contradicted his story was a verbal witness, she *thought* she heard one of them screaming but didn't see it happen so there is no way to know who it was for certain.
 
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Ender said:
Neighborhood Watch is an “Eyes and Ears” Program!
Neighborhood Watch is not a vigilante program. Participants, as private citizens, are only to report their observations of suspicious activity to law enforcement; not to take action themselves. The confrontation, apprehension and/or detention of any suspicious persons observed by participants should be handled by a trained law enforcement officer, empowered to perform law enforcement duties, as outlined under Florida law.
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The Jane Velez-Mitchell show (HLN) are showing surveillance video of Zimmerman getting out of cop car at police station in handcuffs and also a little bit in the station. The show hosts comment Zimmerman's nose and back of head LOOK UNINJURED and mention no appearance of blood on his clothes and I concur on their observations. Zimmerman appears in the video to walk and act like he is uninjured.

[Edit] George Zimmerman on Police Surveillance
03/28/2012 Tapes show neighborhood watchman on night of Trayvon Martin killing.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475


If Trayvon was wailing on Zimmerman so bad -- allegedly broke Zim's nose and injured the back of his head -- that Zim thought it necessary to use DEADLY FORCE against Trayvon, why wasn't Zimmerman taken away in an ambulance, just in case?

Zim brought into station in handcuffs. Looks uninjured. Zim's dad is a retired State Supreme judge and mom's a court clerk. Zim released. Hmmm.
 
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Do you know what a shit barometer is, dannno? Measures the shit pressure in the air. You can feel it. Listen, dannno. You hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of shit? You can hear it.
 
farreri said:
Not looking good for self-appointed "Sheriff" Zimmerman.
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Never was, no matter how some here want to pretend he was defending himself. Looks real beat up to me.

Where's the blood all over his shirt? I've had, have given, and have seen many broken noses. Every time there was blood on the shirt.

Where's the laceration on the back of his head?
 
moo said:
zimmerman never said he used his hands to protect his face. he said the only thing he did to protect himself was call for help and shoot trayvon.
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Where did you read this? That sounds dumb to not ward off blows.
 
dannno said:
I'm not leaving out the other witnesses. The other visual witnesses corroborated Zimmerman's story without contradicting it. They saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating his head in. The only witness who contradicted his story was a verbal witness, she *thought* she heard one of them screaming but didn't see it happen so there is no way to know who it was for certain.
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Respond after this, please....

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475

And please...point out the Zimmerman with his head beat in, with a broken nose because I'm failing to see him here....
 
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coastie said:
Never was, no matter how some here want to pretend he was defending himself. Looks real beat up to me.

Where's the blood all over his shirt? I've had, have given, and have seen many broken noses. Every time there was blood on the shirt.

Where's the laceration on the back of his head?
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Where's his bandages on his nose and back of head?!?!?!

Supposedly he got wailed on so bad he had to use deadly force.
 
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