**Official** townhall debate thread - Mitt Romney vs. Barack Obama

There is no try with AF, there is only do.

Maybe someone will dig up where Romney signed this for you. I already passed that class and can't seem to find my notes.

You didn't get my point.

Another possible question would have been: which one of those men actually introduced, advocated and voted for endless gun control laws - not only bans but prohibition of interstate transportation of firearms, increasing taxes on sales, storefront sales requirements regulations, restricting gun purchases, banning the sale of firearms at gun shows, increasing licensing fees, etc.?


Knowing the asker personal hate for Romney and his simpathy for Obama, it was expected he'd try to suggest Romney's record on gun controls is worse than Obama's because he was the only governor. Which is a laughable suggestion for anyone who knows their record.
 
Well most of that sounded like canned talking points from campaign rallies. The only thing new that I learned was about gun control:

Obama wants to try passing a new assault weapon ban but knows he's going to get a split congress so won't be able to do it.

Romney thinks machine guns are illegal in this country. sssshhhh! - lets not tell him he's wrong...

-t
 
No need to attack my intelligence in defense of your asshole candidate.

BTW, I'm pointing out a gaffe by Romney...not giving my own opinion on the issue. Is that too nuanced for YOU?

So, what's your opinion? Do you agree with Romney or not?

Romney has been saying the same since ever.
 
No mention of inflation, low savings rate or the surveillance state.

Right, nothing to see here, move along.

Although one questioner brought up inflation issue.

Candidates cannot go there. Get Kennedy 'd.
 
I think this was similar to the Biden/Ryan debate: tie in the toplines but Romney did better with the voters that matter.

Candy Crowley's bias was too transparent. Some of the questions were right out of Obama's campaign playbook and I've never seen a moderator giving cover to a candidate as she did in the Lybia question in my entire life.
 
Candy Crowley's bias was too transparent. Some of the questions were right out of Obama's campaign playbook and I've never seen a moderator giving cover to a candidate as she did in the Lybia question in my entire life.
I have to agree with you here about the moderator. Shameless.
 
I wanted to see a fight. I could care less who won the debate, we all lose! The masses get most of their info from these debates which means they know virtually nothing of what is going on. If I had to judge who won by only getting info from this debate, I would say Obama won, but not by a significant margin.
 
Candy Crowley's bias was too transparent. Some of the questions were right out of Obama's campaign playbook and I've never seen a moderator giving cover to a candidate as she did in the Lybia question in my entire life.

Her bias was so damn obvious, but don't expect NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, PBS, Huff Post, NYT, etc to even mention that.
 
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You didn't get my point.

Another possible question would have been: which one of those men actually introduced, advocated and voted for endless gun control laws - not only bans but prohibition of interstate transportation of firearms, increasing taxes on sales, storefront sales requirements regulations, restricting gun purchases, banning the sale of firearms at gun shows, increasing licensing fees, etc.?


Knowing the asker personal hate for Romney and his simpathy for Obama, it was expected he'd try to suggest Romney's record on gun controls is worse than Obama's because he was the only governor. Which is a laughable suggestion for anyone who knows their record.

LOL, "sympathy" for O-bomb-ya.

LOL, Ya got me, I'm a closet demmycrat all along. (and llepard doesn't understand economics) :rolleyes:

Sheesh.

I don't vote for gun banners.

That's a line in the sand for me.
 
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Drinking game idea:

Drink every time the candidates mention their undying support for Israel.
Drink every time they mention an AIPAC talking point.
Drink every time they say Iran with a nuclear weapon is unacceptable.
I'll be an alcoholic within the first 15 minutes!! LOL
 
So, what's your opinion? Do you agree with Romney or not?

Romney has been saying the same since ever.

I agree with Romney about almost nothing.

On the 'jobs' issue, he keeps touting his energy policy and how many jobs that will create. He buys into the BS about Keystone, which is a concerted effort to subvert the property rights of private citizens in favor a pet project.

In the general sense, more domestic drilling does not alter the price of gas, nor does it affect gas prices except to raise the floor on them. We are contributing higher cost oil to the mix of the world's supply.

How's that? Oil from shale (which is where a lot of our production increases are coming from) is a lower grade and is more expensive to extract and refine. The same is true of the Canadian tar sands oil.

Oil is an international commodity that is priced as such. It's supply vs demand. Any domestic additions to supply will not change the overall game. In fact, our higher lift costs keep prices from dropping as low as they might in times of any over-supply.

The only way we could be energy independent on the oil front would be to nationalize the industry. It's doubtful even that would result in lower prices due to our higher lift costs. Prices could well be higher at the pump, not lower.

Romney's understanding of this is a massive fail.
 
Obama gets more time

By BYRON TAU |

Amid persistent complaints and interruptions from both candidates, President Obama ultimately got more than three extra minutes of speaking time than Mitt Romney during Tuesday's debate.

(PHOTOS: The in-your-face debate | Also on POLITICO: Crowley defies contract, asks questions)

According to CNN's timekeeping, Obama got 44:04 minutes of speaking time, while Romney got 40:50.

Both candidates pressed the moderator Candy Crowley — sometimes aggressively — into allowing additional responses and back-and-forth exchanges.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/obama-gots-more-time-138699.html

 
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