Official: Rand Paul in!

[georgiaboy]

Rand should put a jelly doughnut on his podium just to get Christie to look shifty, distracted and sweaty.

And get Rubio a bottle of mineral water so he gets thirsty!!

Ha - Christmas presents for everyone!

Kasich - handkerchief, or pacifier

Rubio - bottle of water

Carson - 5 hour energy

Trump - muzzle

Cruz - maple syrup

Bush - whoopee cushion

Fiorina - calculator

Christie - jelly donut

and pocket constitutions for everyone's stocking stuffer!

 

[derek4ever]

Rand will do the exact same thing he did in the previous debate. And he'll make the main stage for the next 2 debates following the same strategy. His polling will go up when other candidates drop out and security/anti-terrorism are no longer the #1 issue, which is already starting to follow a downward trend.

Thanks for your positivism!! I truly hope your right that there's a downward trend on this!!

 

[givemeliberty2010]

Which of Rand's arguments did CNN accept? I notice that Mike Huckabee did not make it in, although I thought the reasons to include Rand also meant including Huckabee.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Rand will do the exact same thing he did in the previous debate. And he'll make the main stage for the next 2 debates following the same strategy. His polling will go up when other candidates drop out and security/anti-terrorism are no longer the #1 issue, which is already starting to follow a downward trend.

Rand maintaining the status quo he's been doing this whole campaign will not win him the candidacy, and it certainly won't win him the Presidency.

 

[limequat]

Which of Rand's arguments did CNN accept? I notice that Mike Huckabee did not make it in, although I thought the reasons to include Rand also meant including Huckabee.

I wonder this as well, though it could be a case of not looking a gift horse in the mouth.

 

[JJ2]

Which of Rand's arguments did CNN accept? I notice that Mike Huckabee did not make it in, although I thought the reasons to include Rand also meant including Huckabee.

There was no "deal" as far as I know. With the new Fox News poll from this morning, he met their criteria completely of 4.0% in Iowa, as long as they only used the most recent CNN poll (instead of including both CNN polls).

 

[derek4ever]

Rand maintaining the status quo he's been doing this whole campaign will not win him the candidacy, and it certainly won't win him the Presidency.

Agreed! He needs to be more fired up since he has the right message! Just hope the idea of a contested convention jolts him in a good way and we can thrive like we should!!

 

[givemeliberty2010]

There was no "deal" as far as I know. With the new Fox News poll from this morning, he met their criteria completely of 4.0% in Iowa, as long as they only used the most recent CNN poll (instead of including both CNN polls).

Didn't the CBS/YouGov polls exclude that route?

 

[devil21]

Good news!

 

[Origanalist]

if trump calls rand a lightweight or some other derogatory word rand should just speak in the microphone and say "go fuck yourself" talk about alot of free press

Ummm, no....

 

[Origanalist]

White people dancing gif?

 

[Origanalist]

I'm really feeling better now, spent the whole day at work thinking he wouldn't make the main stage. Get er done Rand, if he has as good of a debate as last time I think it will be enough. He doesn't have to knock anybodies socks off, just keep pounding the message of liberty.

 

[Mad Raven]

It's true that Cruz needs to go down for Rand to win, but if Rand himself doesn't surge he 's going to be at the kids table debate, and that effectively means the end of the campaign. No one in the second tier is going to be President. Rand has been treading water for months now, either this changes soon or the fight is lost this time around. Cruz sliding or imploding is necessary, but insufficient.

Rand needs more style, and he needs to work on his showmanship if he wants to win. Facts don't win the Presidency; never have, never will.

I've said elsewhere that Trump is on top mostly because he's such a good salesman like all the big real estate guys have to be. There are a lot of ways to be a good one. Mostly it's about how people feel about you. People can feel when you're not showing your genuine personality. Notice that people didn't like Ron when he was younger, but later on people liked his sweet old man demeanor. Trump is aggressive, but that works for Trump. It wasn't all about timing for Ron, it was also about his personality. But you can learn it, and Rand is having to learn it really quick.

That's why Clinton is having such a hard time. It's not just the scandals. People have lost faith in her because they feel like she's fake. The chinks in her armor are showing, and people see through it a bit. People don't support Bernie because all of a sudden they love socialism. They feel his genuineness and will hear whatever he has to say, at least for a while, maybe until they get home with the new vacuum and wonder why they bought it.

 

[devil21]

Ummm, no....

I wouldn't be entirely opposed to it going down exactly like that As long as he is quick with a follow-up of why, by calling out Trump's obvious plant status. Trump isn't as popular as the media makes him out to be.

Out-Trump Trump?
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Here's a good follow-up:

http://www.carbonated.tv/news/trump-demonizes-muslims-while-making-million-dollar-deals-in-dubai

Hussain Sajwani is the CEO of Damac Properties and his company is partnering with Trump to build a string of luxury golf courses and villas in Dubai.

Damac properties Vice President Neil McLaughlin said that Trump is, “one of the premium golf course operators in the world. As such we would not comment further on Mr. Trump’s personal or political agenda, nor comment on the internal American political debate scene.”
......
If Trump truly believes that every Muslim around the world is determined to destroy the United States, then why is he creating lucrative business partnerships with them and pumping millions into their economies?

Deals baby DEALS!! Trump has good, smart people on it making deals.

 

[CPUd]

Rand maintaining the status quo he's been doing this whole campaign will not win him the candidacy, and it certainly won't win him the Presidency.

It's kept him in the race so far, even after a dramatic shift in the political climate over the summer. His is the only campaign in the race that won't need to run a different platform in the general versus what they're running in the primary. Rand has always said he is going to continue running the same campaign as always. If he does change it up, I might agree with it or I might not. I could even make a post about why I don't agree with it, but after that I'm gonna get over it and continue to support the campaign, because they've always delivered when they needed to. Continually posting about how Rand can't win does nothing but undermine the whole reason for having the Rand forum.

 

[TheTexan]

 

[Dary]

Starlight Mesa


...and Calidoscopio

 

[limequat]

It's kept him in the race so far, even after a dramatic shift in the political climate over the summer. His is the only campaign in the race that won't need to run a different platform in the general versus what they're running in the primary. Rand has always said he is going to continue running the same campaign as always. If he does change it up, I might agree with it or I might not. I could even make a post about why I don't agree with it, but after that I'm gonna get over it and continue to support the campaign, because they've always delivered when they needed to. Continually posting about how Rand can't win does nothing but undermine the whole reason for having the Rand forum.

Out of +rep for CPUd

 

[Peace&Freedom]

It's kept him in the race so far, even after a dramatic shift in the political climate over the summer. His is the only campaign in the race that won't need to run a different platform in the general versus what they're running in the primary. Rand has always said he is going to continue running the same campaign as always. If he does change it up, I might agree with it or I might not. I could even make a post about why I don't agree with it, but after that I'm gonna get over it and continue to support the campaign, because they've always delivered when they needed to. Continually posting about how Rand can't win does nothing but undermine the whole reason for having the Rand forum.

Following a campaign platform that will win the election, but to date only barely keeps you in the primary race, is not winning the primary race. I have suggested a pathway for Rand to win the primaries, but aspects of it does require him to modify some things to reflect the unforseen non-establishment factor that has dominated this race.

Making needed adjustments is a reasonable consideration when trying to accomplish a goal, but Rand has not made them. Those concerned about this are not saying that Rand can't win at all, but that he is not running a winning campaign based on the available evidence. This view may turn out to be wrong, or a rush to judgment, but it's based on the record of the last half year, so it is an appropriate point to discuss in this forum.

 

[phill4paul]

White people dancing gif?

Lol, yeah, I suppose I could have found a better dancing gif. Was just in a hurry. Happy he made the cut.