Official presidential election results thread - Nov. 8, 2016

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The love affair begins again.

 

[CaptUSA]

 

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Wow. He really went there.

 

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[oyarde]

Trump isn't a citizen?

I have not checked . Good idea .

 

[goldenequity]

German ad for a house moving company

 

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[devil21]

Weird day, for sure. I actually heard liberals talking about black helicopters coming to round them up. And they were serious. Definitely bizarro world.

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Weird day, for sure. I actually heard liberals talking about black helicopters coming to round them up. And they were serious. Definitely bizarro world.

Dreams, beautiful dreams.

 

[devil21]

Dreams, beautiful dreams.

I'm pretty sure I don't want to see anybody rounded up by black helicopters for their political opinions. That would make holiday dinners awkward. You're kinda scary if you really desire that.

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

I'm pretty sure I don't want to see anybody rounded up by black helicopters.

Oh agree it'd be terrible thing to happen to people, but you said liberals.

 

[lilymc]

Weird day, for sure. I actually heard liberals talking about black helicopters coming to round them up. And they were serious. Definitely bizarro world.

They are genuinely scared. The problem is, they're still not awake to the real agenda and the D vs R false dichotomy. They're playing right into the hands of TPTSB.

 

[devil21]

They are genuinely scared. The problem is, they're still not awake to the real agenda and the D vs R false dichotomy. They're playing right into the hands of TPTSB.

It's ironic since they'd be the first to fall in line with whatever they're told to do and therefore are at the least risk. If black helicopters are rounding people up (and I do think it will happen at some point, way too many parallels to 30's Germany ongoing...history repeats) then we are all basically screwed.

Oh agree it'd be terrible thing to happen to people, but you said liberals.

I doubt Ron Paul would approve of your message.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Even if true, I have no idea what any of this ^^^^ has to do with anything I said - which was merely that Trump isn't going to do jack shit, and that the sooner his ardent supporters realize this and stop hoping for change by working within the system, the better.

I repeat: Trump isn't going to do jack shit.

He isn't going to go after Hillary.
He isn't going to "drain the swamp."
He isn't going to "smash the establishment."
He isn't going to do any of the things the cuck-baiting alpha-suckers fap over.

And if he tries, he will discover, as Gail Wynand did in The Fountainhead, that "You don't run things around here" ...

I'm not sure you're addressing my point.

As I noted in the first sentence of my reply, I don't know what your point was.

It seemed to be about the Bushes and Hillary and assorted other things (Sarah Palin?) that had nothing at all to do with anything I had said.

You're saying 1) he won't try and 2) he will fail if he tries. Those are 2 different things.

No. You need to read more carefully.

I did not say "he won't try" to do X (though I won't be surprised if he doesn't).

I said "he isn't going to do" X (and that if he tries, he will fail).

Those are two different things.

I would like to recommend the attempts to drain the swamp. Applaud those, provided I like the idea.

His voters have reason to believe that Trump will be trying to drain the swamp. I would like to see the swamp drained. What you're saying is garden variety cynicism?
I'm just saying it's would be interesting to see how that will go. Trump might be fighting with the swamp dwellers, and that would be fun to see.

What I am saying is garden variety realism. Even if Trump tries to "drain the swamp" (whatever that vague platitude is supposed to mean), he will not do so. None of these perennial "drain the swamp" intifadas (term limits, campaign finance reform, lobbyist reforms, etc., etc., etc.) have ever worked, and none of them ever will. Even on those rare occasions when they actually pass in some form, they only serve to rearrange the deck chairs. They only treat the symptoms and do absolutely nothing about the disease. The disease is the vast and overweening power of the federal government. Until a radical and extreme "power-ectomy" is performed, trying to "drain the swamp" is like trying to empty the ocean with a bucket. And there is nothing in Trump's "platform" (such as it is) that indicates he has even the slightest interest in seriously and significantly curtailing the power of the federal government. Just the opposite, in fact - his "planks," if they are to be taken seriously, would require the maintenance and increase of federal power.

Trump isn't going to fight any swamp dwellers. He is going to make deals with them. That is what he does; he is a deal-maker. He has told you this.

Oh, who knows how things will turn out.

But it will be nice to have a non-puppet in the White House. As Lew Rockwell says: because he is his own man, at least there's some chance that Trump might actually do something good (!!!). As the perpetually optimistic little boy in Angels in the Outfield says: "It could happen!" I know, I know, maybe the Cubs could even win the World Series, too -- but it's theoretically possible.

Maybe Wayne Allen Root, the one prominent(ish) libertarian to be good to Trump instead of nasty, will have some place or influence in a Trump administration.

So, yeah. It will be nice to have a non-puppet in the White House.

It is also really very, very nice to have:

3. Two political dynasties destroyed
2. The corrupt, useless, loser GOP, Inc. and Conservative Thinktanks, Inc., both severely weakened

and, #1, the most delicious and important of all:

1. The main stream media utterly discredited, crushed, and destroyed.

*shrug* Also non-responsive. I didn't say anything at all about what it is or is not "really very, very nice to have."

All I said is that Trump is not going to do any of the wild-eyed, grandiose things that have already been credited to him as if they were fait accompli.

But as for those "really very, very nice" things you think you have now: I think they are just the same sort of enthusiastic but empty hyperbole.

The deep state and its accoutrements (the lapdog media, political "dynasties," etc., etc.) are not going to go away or stop doing what they do merely because a bunch of people put some marked-up pieces of paper into boxes one day. In fact, such diversions are immensely useful as "pressure valves" - which is why the system indulges the charade in the first place.

The singers may change, but the song remains the same ...

 

[Occam's Banana]

Wow!!! Read this. They are so crazy.

He said rural people have no intelligence or creativity. WTF?

I guess "The Mich" and his friends are not up on their Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

I'm sure they'll get around to it, though ...

 

[seapilot]

Liberals exodus to Canada:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-09/meanwhile-canada

The flood of Trump-fearing American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week. The Republican presidential campaign is prompting an exodus among left-leaning Americans who fear they’ll soon be required to hunt, pray, pay taxes, and live according to the Constitution.

Canadian border residents say it’s not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, liberal arts majors, global-warming activists, and “green” energy proponents crossing their fields at night.

“I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn,” said southern Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota. “He was cold, exhausted and hungry, and begged me for a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn’t have any, he left before I even got a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?”


In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. He then installed loudspeakers that blared Rush Limbaugh across the fields, but they just stuck their fingers in their ears and kept coming. Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals just south of the border, pack them into electric cars, and drive them across the border, where they are simply left to fend for themselves after the battery dies.

“A lot of these people are not prepared for our rugged conditions,” an Alberta border patrolman said. “I found one carload without a single bottle of Perrier water, or any gemelli with shrimp and arugula. All they had was a nice little Napa Valley cabernet and some kale chips. When liberals are caught, they’re sent back across the border, often wailing that they fear persecution from Trump high-hairers.

Rumors are circulating about plans being made to build re-education camps where liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer, study the Constitution, and find jobs that actually contribute to the economy.

In recent days, liberals have turned to ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have been disguised as senior citizens taking a bus trip to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans in blue-hair wig disguises, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior citizens about Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney to prove that they were alive in the ’50s.

“If they can’t identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we become very suspicious about their age,” an official said.

Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage, are buying up all the Barbara Streisand CD’s, and are overloading the internet while downloading jazzercise apps to their cell phones.

“I really feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can’t support them,” an Ottawa resident said. “After all, how many art-history majors does one country need?"

 

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[AuH20]

Oh agree it'd be terrible thing to happen to people, but you said liberals.

Did someone say helicopters?

 

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John Nolte Responds To Bob Chipman:

 

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