>>>***Official***<<< Presidential Debate Thread

RickyJ said:
Romney needed a knockout, he didn't get it.
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Exactly. Romney needs to dominate these debates to win the election and tonight he didn't. He could have, but just blew it. He was better than Obama, but only slightly. That's not enough to make up for the fact that Obama is just more likeable than Romney. If you are losing on personality, you better win big intellectually.
 
Carlybee said:
So what's your point? Would you like us to applaud? Cry? Commit hari kari?
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My point is, it's just a little niche innovation I discovered and how to use it, and it can be used to generate a lot of revenue for those who know how to exploit it.
 
BenIsForRon said:
Wait, was he calling me a twit? I was simply pointing out that Matthews doesn't get it.
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It's all fucking scripted, It's all a fucking act, all the world is a stage, It's all just a stage play designed to brainwash you and you don't understand it.
 
michaelwise said:
It's all fucking scripted, It's all a fucking act, all the world is a stage, It's all just a stage play designed to brainwash you and you don't understand it.
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Well, you're doing a bang up job of enlightening us, mate. :rolleyes:
 
Dude, you really need to re-evaluate your life. Starting flame wars on forums is not something to toot your own horn about.
 
There's only room for one idiot with a massive ego here, and we already have our forum narcissist.
 
Post debate discussion from Facebook:

Joe: Well...I don't know about you, or if you are engaged enough to have watched the presidential debate tonight. If you did, you observed Mitt Romney absolutely schooling the incumbent on each and every question. The chosen one rarely if ever even looked at Mr. Romney and was clearly uncomfortable, petulent, and not used to someone challenging him with facts, content, and intellect. Mitt OWNED him tonight and even propogandists like CNN showed him as a 67% 25% winner. Obama clearly was simply playing ahead and attempting to "run out the clock". Well, sorry but the clock is running out and we are TIRED of policies and cover-ups that are ruining this great country. This race is ON!

  • 7 people like this.
  • Someone else: I always look forward to these
    2 hours ago via mobile · Like · 2
  • Me: If this debate is any indicator, we are so screwed as a nation because neither candidate even addressed the most serious domestic issues we face. It won't matter if it is Romney or if it is Obama: down the drain is down the drain.
    2 hours ago · Like
  • Joe: Sorry Tod but you are simply drinking the Koolaid. We are not screwed. This is the greatest country on earth and it simply takes leadership to turn things around and we have not had leadership for four years. Obama is clearly an abject failure in everything except perhaps his golf game and his spending on negative campaign ads. Out country is a country of winnners and patriots that use their own initiative to excel. With a leader like Romney getting government regulation and excess out of the way, American ingenuity will prevail and turn this country around again. American's are waiting for a LEADER that has actual experience in running a business, a state, the Olympics and untold charity to his community to assist in getting Government out of the way of our individual desires and goals to excel. Our country will prevail, will Suceeed and once again will regain its place as the #1 super power in the world. Under the incumbent...you can count on the fact that China will be the Super power and the likes of Spain and Greece will be the road we will travel...to ruin....
    about an hour ago · Like · 4
  • Another person: you tell em Joey :)
    about an hour ago · Like · 1
  • Me: Andrew Jackson vetoed Congress' attempt to renew the charter of the central bank of the time and staved off the consequences of its existence. Romney won't even address the issue, and won't make any serious cuts to reign in the massive spending problem we have. Three times on air in 2009, Romney advocated nationalizing Romneycare (the close model for Obamacare). Peter Schiff, Ron Paul, Jim Rogers, Ross Perot, and the like are predicting big problems ahead for us. These guys all have a history of accurate predictions (such as forecasting the collapse of the housing market years before it happened) whereas the clowns in the debate tonight have shown that they just don't get it. It would be nice if they were wrong, but there just isn't any reason to believe that they are. History is on their side. The fiat dollar has allowed for total fiscal irresponsibility and neither candidate has the will to bite the bullet. The dollar will do what fiat currency always does: collapse.
    about an hour ago · Like
  • Joe: Tod, look if you need to go back to Andrew Jackson to make a point, well, my friend you are simply out of touch. The dollar will certainly collapse as you succinctly point out as fiat currency doe if Obama is re-elected. However...we have a choice to have a proven financial leader elected and Romney will not let the dollar nor our country go the way of Greece and Spain. We will never give up, we will Never relent, we will Never allow that to happen. This is a country of resolute, proud, Americans that have built the greatest democracy, the greatest country the world has known. We will not let a pretender like obama erode the greatness, nor the freedom that has made us great. The choice is very clear on November 6th. We go down the road you unveil in your post, or we prevail, fight, rebuild and recover with a greatness that is and has been our destiny! I for one, will fight till the end. Your attitude of surrender is one, I trust and prey is that of a minority of Americans and is an outlook that is defeatist and foreign to most of those that fight to make and maintain American greatness.
    about an hour ago · Like · 1
  • Someone else: I applaud you JOE!!
    about an hour ago · Like · 1
  • Me: Joe, I'm not surrendering, but I am refusing to stick my head in the sand and hope that Romney will be our country's savior, because the differences between him an Obama are so small as to be inconsequential. You are fooling yourself. Yes, the everyday citizens of this country will "get 'er done" as needed, but not until something serious enough happens to get their mind off of "American Idol" for a minute.
    about an hour ago · Like
  • Someone else: Well i dont know you Todd, but there is a good chance he would have Ron Paul leading that charge. what really is so darn funny is Obama cant run and hide. This aint John McCain, ca...See More
    54 minutes ago via mobile · Like
  • Joe: Tod...haha...your logic is not cutting it...the differences between obama and Romney are not small, they are HUGE, and if you do not observe that, you do have your head in the sand. I suggest we go sailing...followed by refreshments, and then an arm wrestling bout. I am going out now to prepare on my Total Gym...so be prepared!!!
    47 minutes ago · Unlike · 1
  • Someone else: sorry and Harry R....they can all preform under the big tent. Obama has to have an idiot like Biden cause someone like Ryan would make him look stupid. and then there is Jim Lehra....no conflict of interest there....hey Jim....dont think the funding for you will pass the test of borrowing money from China....God Bless America
    36 minutes ago via mobile · Like
  • Me: The rhetoric during the debates tries to be huge...gotta keep the people fooled into thinking there is actually a choice, don't ya know. Both support the Federal Reserve, both support federal mandates out the wazoo, both believe that Americans should be forced to give their money to private companies (which in turn give their support to the candidates - the term for this crony capitalism, or corporatism, a form of fascism) both support the unconstitutional indefinite detainment of American citizens (for that matter, both support the suspension of much of the Bill of Rights - yeah, going back to that old fashioned silly document, I know, lame of me), both support bailouts - heck Romney was even a bailout recipient! -, both support entangling alliances and offensive wars against the advice of Thomas Jefferson (that crazy old coot who didn't have a lick of sense), both are in favor of the stupid failed war on drugs, and on and on and on.
    36 minutes ago · Like
  • Me: Paul Ryan's so-called conservative budget wouldn't balance the budget for 40 years. Tell me with a straight face that you think THAT would ever happen. That isn't fiscally conservative at all.34 minutes ago · Like
  • Joe: Tod...ok focus now...let's lighten up...remember Go Sailing...detox a bit amigo. Love ya, blessings, Good night!32 minutes ago · Like
  • Me: :) you too, Joe! Morning will be here before we know it!30 minutes ago · Like
  • Someone else: Wow Todd....its pretty obvious you dont run a business and dont believe in American exceptilism. The Constitution along with the bill of right has governed this great country for a long time. Your comments on the Fed has merit....but ask Barney Madoff how things working fir him. we have laws that need to be enforced....and a couple more like Timmy Gitner or Bernacl behind bar would really send a message. But hey.....we are not going to fix this in four years.....but any business has to start somewhere and fix things one at a time. Im surprised that Fannie AND Frddie werent brouvht up.....gokd riddens Barney...maybe now your little gang od boys can make money. Todd fhrow the Koolaid out. America is still the Greatest place in the world21 minutes ago via mobile · Like
  • Me: Actually, William, I am self-employed and have been for several years. What made this country great was not bailouts and corporate welfare, government mandates, social programs like Medicare and Social Security, and trampling of the Bill of Rights. It was individual liberty, which is quickly being eroded. Bernie Madoff was a con artist who ran a ponzi scheme of sorts, not unlike Social Security is a ponzi scheme. It was wrong of Madoff and is wrong of our government. Yes, laws need to be enforced, but it is a naive person who doesn't realize that many laws are not written to ensure that fraud and other crimes are properly punished. Quite the contrary. For example, on the state level, Rick Perry wanted to make it a law that all Texas adolescent girls be vaccinated with Gardasil, an HPV vaccine produced only by Merk. Turned out Merk was a heavy contributer to Perry and they stood to make a fortune by influencing politicians. Politicians on both sides of the aisle are that corrupt. That crap is unAmerican; it is more like the Soviet Union. Blind patriotism in the face of eroding liberty is exactly what these clowns want. I want more. I want liberty. And I'm not going to get it by voting for either one of the two clowns on the stage tonight, and you won't either. Think about that next time you go through one of those porno scanners at the airport.about a minute ago · Like
 
The Romney surge.

It's what's for media dinner? When CNN declares Romney winner by big margins then it's the primary "surge" game restarting.

The msm desperately needs Romney to claw back into this race for ratings (advertising revenue) purposes. I think Romney won the debate but he didn't demolish Obama. I look at it this way. If Romney DIDNT demolish Obama on domestic policy, mostly economic, then Romney would be the biggest fail GOP candidate ever. Romney was kicking an extra point in tonite's debate. When foreign policy comes up next debate Romney will be kicking a 58 yarder to win. Advocating war with Iran would be a bad snap. Just saying.
 
Tod said:
Post debate discussion from Facebook:

Joe: Well...I don't know about you, or if you are engaged enough to have watched the presidential debate tonight. If you did, you observed Mitt Romney absolutely schooling the incumbent on each and every question. The chosen one rarely if ever even looked at Mr. Romney and was clearly uncomfortable, petulent, and not used to someone challenging him with facts, content, and intellect. Mitt OWNED him tonight and even propogandists like CNN showed him as a 67% 25% winner. Obama clearly was simply playing ahead and attempting to "run out the clock". Well, sorry but the clock is running out and we are TIRED of policies and cover-ups that are ruining this great country. This race is ON!

  • 7 people like this.
  • Someone else: I always look forward to these
    2 hours ago via mobile · Like · 2
  • Me: If this debate is any indicator, we are so screwed as a nation because neither candidate even addressed the most serious domestic issues we face. It won't matter if it is Romney or if it is Obama: down the drain is down the drain.
    2 hours ago · Like
  • Joe: Sorry Tod but you are simply drinking the Koolaid. We are not screwed. This is the greatest country on earth and it simply takes leadership to turn things around and we have not had leadership for four years. Obama is clearly an abject failure in everything except perhaps his golf game and his spending on negative campaign ads. Out country is a country of winnners and patriots that use their own initiative to excel. With a leader like Romney getting government regulation and excess out of the way, American ingenuity will prevail and turn this country around again. American's are waiting for a LEADER that has actual experience in running a business, a state, the Olympics and untold charity to his community to assist in getting Government out of the way of our individual desires and goals to excel. Our country will prevail, will Suceeed and once again will regain its place as the #1 super power in the world. Under the incumbent...you can count on the fact that China will be the Super power and the likes of Spain and Greece will be the road we will travel...to ruin....
    about an hour ago · Like · 4
  • Another person: you tell em Joey :)
    about an hour ago · Like · 1
  • Me: Andrew Jackson vetoed Congress' attempt to renew the charter of the central bank of the time and staved off the consequences of its existence. Romney won't even address the issue, and won't make any serious cuts to reign in the massive spending problem we have. Three times on air in 2009, Romney advocated nationalizing Romneycare (the close model for Obamacare). Peter Schiff, Ron Paul, Jim Rogers, Ross Perot, and the like are predicting big problems ahead for us. These guys all have a history of accurate predictions (such as forecasting the collapse of the housing market years before it happened) whereas the clowns in the debate tonight have shown that they just don't get it. It would be nice if they were wrong, but there just isn't any reason to believe that they are. History is on their side. The fiat dollar has allowed for total fiscal irresponsibility and neither candidate has the will to bite the bullet. The dollar will do what fiat currency always does: collapse.
    about an hour ago · Like
  • Joe: Tod, look if you need to go back to Andrew Jackson to make a point, well, my friend you are simply out of touch. The dollar will certainly collapse as you succinctly point out as fiat currency doe if Obama is re-elected. However...we have a choice to have a proven financial leader elected and Romney will not let the dollar nor our country go the way of Greece and Spain. We will never give up, we will Never relent, we will Never allow that to happen. This is a country of resolute, proud, Americans that have built the greatest democracy, the greatest country the world has known. We will not let a pretender like obama erode the greatness, nor the freedom that has made us great. The choice is very clear on November 6th. We go down the road you unveil in your post, or we prevail, fight, rebuild and recover with a greatness that is and has been our destiny! I for one, will fight till the end. Your attitude of surrender is one, I trust and prey is that of a minority of Americans and is an outlook that is defeatist and foreign to most of those that fight to make and maintain American greatness.
    about an hour ago · Like · 1
  • Someone else: I applaud you JOE!!
    about an hour ago · Like · 1
  • Me: Joe, I'm not surrendering, but I am refusing to stick my head in the sand and hope that Romney will be our country's savior, because the differences between him an Obama are so small as to be inconsequential. You are fooling yourself. Yes, the everyday citizens of this country will "get 'er done" as needed, but not until something serious enough happens to get their mind off of "American Idol" for a minute.
    about an hour ago · Like
  • Someone else: Well i dont know you Todd, but there is a good chance he would have Ron Paul leading that charge. what really is so darn funny is Obama cant run and hide. This aint John McCain, ca...See More
    54 minutes ago via mobile · Like
  • Joe: Tod...haha...your logic is not cutting it...the differences between obama and Romney are not small, they are HUGE, and if you do not observe that, you do have your head in the sand. I suggest we go sailing...followed by refreshments, and then an arm wrestling bout. I am going out now to prepare on my Total Gym...so be prepared!!!
    47 minutes ago · Unlike · 1
  • Someone else: sorry and Harry R....they can all preform under the big tent. Obama has to have an idiot like Biden cause someone like Ryan would make him look stupid. and then there is Jim Lehra....no conflict of interest there....hey Jim....dont think the funding for you will pass the test of borrowing money from China....God Bless America
    36 minutes ago via mobile · Like
  • Me: The rhetoric during the debates tries to be huge...gotta keep the people fooled into thinking there is actually a choice, don't ya know. Both support the Federal Reserve, both support federal mandates out the wazoo, both believe that Americans should be forced to give their money to private companies (which in turn give their support to the candidates - the term for this crony capitalism, or corporatism, a form of fascism) both support the unconstitutional indefinite detainment of American citizens (for that matter, both support the suspension of much of the Bill of Rights - yeah, going back to that old fashioned silly document, I know, lame of me), both support bailouts - heck Romney was even a bailout recipient! -, both support entangling alliances and offensive wars against the advice of Thomas Jefferson (that crazy old coot who didn't have a lick of sense), both are in favor of the stupid failed war on drugs, and on and on and on.
    36 minutes ago · Like
  • Me: Paul Ryan's so-called conservative budget wouldn't balance the budget for 40 years. Tell me with a straight face that you think THAT would ever happen. That isn't fiscally conservative at all.34 minutes ago · Like
  • Joe: Tod...ok focus now...let's lighten up...remember Go Sailing...detox a bit amigo. Love ya, blessings, Good night!32 minutes ago · Like
  • Me: :) you too, Joe! Morning will be here before we know it!30 minutes ago · Like
  • Someone else: Wow Todd....its pretty obvious you dont run a business and dont believe in American exceptilism. The Constitution along with the bill of right has governed this great country for a long time. Your comments on the Fed has merit....but ask Barney Madoff how things working fir him. we have laws that need to be enforced....and a couple more like Timmy Gitner or Bernacl behind bar would really send a message. But hey.....we are not going to fix this in four years.....but any business has to start somewhere and fix things one at a time. Im surprised that Fannie AND Frddie werent brouvht up.....gokd riddens Barney...maybe now your little gang od boys can make money. Todd fhrow the Koolaid out. America is still the Greatest place in the world21 minutes ago via mobile · Like
  • Me: Actually, William, I am self-employed and have been for several years. What made this country great was not bailouts and corporate welfare, government mandates, social programs like Medicare and Social Security, and trampling of the Bill of Rights. It was individual liberty, which is quickly being eroded. Bernie Madoff was a con artist who ran a ponzi scheme of sorts, not unlike Social Security is a ponzi scheme. It was wrong of Madoff and is wrong of our government. Yes, laws need to be enforced, but it is a naive person who doesn't realize that many laws are not written to ensure that fraud and other crimes are properly punished. Quite the contrary. For example, on the state level, Rick Perry wanted to make it a law that all Texas adolescent girls be vaccinated with Gardasil, an HPV vaccine produced only by Merk. Turned out Merk was a heavy contributer to Perry and they stood to make a fortune by influencing politicians. Politicians on both sides of the aisle are that corrupt. That crap is unAmerican; it is more like the Soviet Union. Blind patriotism in the face of eroding liberty is exactly what these clowns want. I want more. I want liberty. And I'm not going to get it by voting for either one of the two clowns on the stage tonight, and you won't either. Think about that next time you go through one of those porno scanners at the airport.about a minute ago · Like
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LOL ask your friend Joe what Romney proposed to cut. Every time Obama mentioned Romney cutting something Romney would say he wouldn't cut it, in fact he berated Obama for making "cuts". It's hard to discuss with these cheerleaders because all they see is the team color and ignore everything else.
 
btw who the hell is that michael guy and why should I pretend to care? I thought Obama had a massive ego but he's got him beat.
 
Rudeman said:
LOL ask your friend Joe what Romney proposed to cut. Every time Obama mentioned Romney cutting something Romney would say he wouldn't cut it, in fact he berated Obama for making "cuts". It's hard to discuss with these cheerleaders because all they see is the team color and ignore everything else.
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Don't forget Romney tried to say he would cut taxes, then tried to say he wouldn't by saying he would elliminate deductions. That's another reason I said Romney sucked at this debate along with Obama.
 
I like what both candidates say, but thats about it.

The bailouts were not addressed
The endless wars were not addressed
The fed wasnt mentioned

This system is such a beautiful con, these guys have so many people convinced that they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO far apart, and yet its nothing.
 
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