Official CNN GOP Debate Thread 12-15-15

[statist slayer]

Who'll be hurt, helped, and unaffected:
Hurt: Kasich, Carson, Bush, Fiorina
Helped: Rubio, Trump, Cruz
Unaffected: Christie, Paul

We can only hope that Kasich and Fiorina will crater out of the January debates so Rand has more time and less ideological opposition.

Cruz' support for Rand's ideas gives them legitimacy in the debate. Rand's "isolationism" should benefit him when it comes to the ISIS fear, because it ties in nicely with the immigration issue. I don't think Cruz can win the Trumpkins, and I'm hoping that the anti-Trumpkin fiscal conservatives gravitate to Rand. Rand's biggest weakness continues to be his rambling delivery. He would do well to cut back his grueling schedule and work intensively with a speech coach for the January debates. I am convinced that delivery and its effect on the shallow morons of the media has propelled Trump, Rubio and Cruz to the front.

 

[misterx]

Who'll be hurt, helped, and unaffected:
Hurt: Kasich, Carson, Bush, Fiorina
Helped: Rubio, Trump, Cruz
Unaffected: Christie, Paul

I'm confused. Paul had a great night, and Rubio had a terrible night. Yet you think Rubio will be helped and Paul unaffected?

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Rand did well, but I doubt his numbers will see an increase, unfortunately. I hope it's enough to keep him on the main stage.

 

[statist slayer]

I'm confused. Paul had a great night, and Rubio had a terrible night. Yet you think Rubio will be helped and Paul unaffected?

On substance, Rubio had a terrible night. But there were no incriminating soundbites, especially since the media will ignore Rand, which are the only thing that can drag him down as the establishment choice. Jeb, on the other hand, had a night of word salad and peevishness.

BTW, I have to give props to Christie for keeping his cool in the face of Rand's ad hominem onslaught.

 

[CPUd]

 

[devil21]

lol they didn't like Paul because he attacked Trump on the internet censorship?

And that toolbag switched from Paul to Cruz

Every time a poll is released remember Frank! Fuckin Frank, jerkin ya around for a shitload of money.

Pretty sure the gop is a lost cause

Well, there is that. Can't win based on a platform of carpet bombing and spying. Never mind that Hillary is 100% in the same camp but Trump keeps her out of the media and the only times she surfaces is to bash the latest divisive crap Trump said.

Israel pays well for the rhetoric though...

 

[Rudeman]

Rubio is stagnating right now, he would benefit from Bush, Christie and the other establishment/neocon candidates dropping out but until then he doesn't really have much room to move up. This debate also helped expose some of his weaknesses. Really he's just lucky all the other establishment candidates suck.

 

[devil21]

Proof that Ted Cruz is a fraud in 1 picture.

https://twitter.com/FalseFlag_Watch/status/676944903495163905

"Hidden hand" is an interesting reference for those that study occultists.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

 

[jct74]

full debate



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU83OPXP6_g

 

[invisible]

"Hidden hand" is an interesting reference for those that study occultists.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

The Hidden Hand is worth checking out, for sure!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ27LIVvS3M

 

[Influenza]

What was up with Fiorina?
Paraphrasing:
"If you want something talked about, elect a man; if you want something done, elect a woman."
How was this OK? If a man said the reverse of this, he would be labeled a sexist pig. The world today is a complete joke

 

[Dianne]

Surely these are the end times. Never thought I'd ever hear Krauthammer say anything positive about Rand. (Even though it was tempered by him saying that Rand's good performance wouldn't move the needle).

I was half asleep watching the Krauthammer interview, but wasn't he saying something positive about Rand only to stick a knife in Trump, who he hates even more than Rand ... if that's possible.

 

[anaconda]

What was up with Fiorina?
Paraphrasing:
"If you want something talked about, elect a man; if you want something done, elect a woman."
How was this OK? If a man said the reverse of this, he would be labeled a sexist pig. The world today is a complete joke

Yep. Rand should quoted the feminist Camille Paglia, who said that, left to women, we'd still be living in grass huts.

 

[anaconda]

Rand seriously need to stop saying "I think.."

 

[01000110]

What was up with Fiorina?
Paraphrasing:
"If you want something talked about, elect a man; if you want something done, elect a woman."
How was this OK? If a man said the reverse of this, he would be labeled a sexist pig. The world today is a complete joke

Yeah, no kidding... she is a joke. She's got nothing but stupid quotes and tough talk about Putin and deploying fleets. She also kept trying to interrupt last night.

She should get out now but MSM surely won't mention that at all. Her, Carson, vegetable chopper Kasich, and all those in the undercard...just need to quit.

 

[Snowball]

Rand was fantastic last night !!!!

Check out this other forum I post in. It's not a forum like this.
VERY surprising to see how well Rand was rated !!
http://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...esidential-debate-8-30-a-58.html#post42305079

 

[SilentBull]

What was up with Fiorina?
Paraphrasing:
"If you want something talked about, elect a man; if you want something done, elect a woman."
How was this OK? If a man said the reverse of this, he would be labeled a sexist pig. The world today is a complete joke

Yeah, a local radio host was attacking her because of this. He said she was done. Came off as that mean boss you may have had.

 

[derek4ever]

Rand seriously need to stop saying "I think.."

Agreed. He needs to prop himself directly by saying "i will" or "i'm doing it".

 

[Influenza]

It reminds me of Hillary in one of the Dem debates:
"How would your administration differ from that of President Obama's?"
"Well, I'm a woman!"
*cue loud cheers*
Literally being cheered for having a vagina

 

[derek4ever]

I have an inside joke about preibus but don't want to get banned, so i'll keep it to myself. :/