Official CNN GOP Debate Thread 12-15-15

[65fastback2+2]

Like his strategy in the beginning debates, that absolutely hurt him?

doint it while trump is on the uptick wasnt really smart...but doing it when he has plateaued is not a bad idea

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Rand's attacking Trump is doing CNN's work for them (the network clearly stacked a pro-Bush/Rubi audience to try to crush Trump). The points made were correct, but in terms of positioning, all it does is reinforce the impression Rand is confronting the anti-establishment guy, thus is not one himself. This will not engage Trump's supporters, but alienate them from Rand.

Precisely.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

whoa...there are women here , this isn't an all guy blog

Sorry can't rep you at this point. I don't see why women wouldn't make good presidents. It may be true that women on average are more emotional thinkers than men but people are individuals and as libertarians and liberty lovers we should acknowledge that.

 

[Dianne]

Nope, attacking Trump didn't hurt Rand's numbers, he was already in 8th place. What hurt Rand was Trump being in the race. If Rand wants to win, Trump has to go down, and nobody else is even trying except for Bush who just got ripped apart despite having the audience on his side.

Why the hell doesn't he go after Bush?

 

[jkob]

We need to convince people trump is WRONG or they wont leave him for rand. We need to CHANGE PEOPLE'S MINDS about a fundamental issue. It's our only hope.

I disagree, going after Trump is like wrestling with a pig

Rand needs Trump voters to like him and the best way to do that is to kiss his ass and avoid attacking him like Cruz has, if Rand followed that same strategy and was on better terms with Trump then we'd probably see a lot more of his voters be receptive to Rand's message and who knows, you could even influence Trump since he likes anybody that likes him

 

[Jan2017]

Trump looked like the fool he is.

I agree, it may have been Trump's worse debate moment yet - the hand wave at Rand at first, then Trump gets booed.

Rand quick gave an answer, went to Trump - got some love that Dana Bash asked again. It went fine enuf.

 

[CrissyNY]

kahless u suck

the end.

 

[Dary]

Far better warmongers in the first debate.

 

[CPUd]

Trump is now seen as the establishment, he defended McConnell against Cruz

 

[eleganz]

Rand's attacking Trump is doing CNN's work for them (the network clearly stacked a pro-Bush/Rubi audience to try to crush Trump). The points made were correct, but in terms of positioning, all it does is reinforce the impression Rand is confronting the anti-establishment guy, thus is not one himself. This will not engage Trump's supporters, but alienate them from Rand.

We already know that Trump's most hardcore supports won't leave him. Those who are soft on him are still deciding

 

[TomtheTinker]

This is rands issue and they go to Cruz. Calculated

 

[dude58677]

Donald Trump- Make America Worse again

 

[CPUd]

Why the hell doesn't he go after Bush?

He doesn't need to, this is probably Jeb's last debate.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Rand's attacking Trump is doing CNN's work for them (the network clearly stacked a pro-Bush/Rubi audience to try to crush Trump). The points made were correct, but in terms of positioning, all it does is reinforce the impression Rand is confronting the anti-establishment guy, thus is not one himself. This will not engage Trump's supporters, but alienate them from Rand.

Yes, I agree. I don't think that strategy is a smart one.

 

[65fastback2+2]

Rand is outright lying about Trump's internet position. Trump responded to cutting it off in war zones and working with Silicon Valley to target ISIS propaganda which is the appropriate way of dealing with the enemy.

But I guess the meme Rand is floating about Trump will work well to bring him down since the media will run with it. It is just dishonest and did not expect him to go that route.

you're dumb.

you NEVER give the government this power. Giving them 1% of it means you have given them 100% and it FULLY means what Rand is saying it means.

Go. Troll. Elsewhere.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

I agree, it may have been Trump's worse debate moment yet - the hand wave at Rand at first, then Trump gets booed.

Rand quick gave an answer, went to Trump - got some love that Dana Bash asked again. It went fine enuf.

One can only hope it gets picked up by the news cycle. Probably a bridge too far.

 

[Mr Stealth]

Rand engaged Trump voters directly and asked them to consider the constitution. I don't see why that is an attack on Trump

 

[Wilf]

Not really. A LOT of people love her. You may not agree with her politics but she was a strong leader when GB needed one.

It was also why she was hated from a certain demographic of people in GB.

 

[moraha]

This frustrates the hell out of me. How can Cruz be the FIRST to be asked this question????

 

[squirl22]

cruz parroting rand and claiming rand's words as his own.