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Damn, thought there would be more to the Giants/Packers game. It's coming out like 'Phins and Steelers.
 
phill4paul said:
Damn, thought there would be more to the Giants/Packers game. It's coming out like 'Phins and Steelers.
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I expected a close game . GB goes to Dallas . Cowboys better hope they do not get the officiating crew from GB or Seattle games , less than impressive .
 
Odell Beckham Jr. punches hole in wall after loss, bangs head on door

New York Giants wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. punched a hole in a wall after their 38-13 playoff loss to the Packers in Green Bay, according ESPN's Sal Paolantonio, who saw Beckham also banging his head against a door.

Grounds crew members tell Paolantonio that Beckham was hitting the wall outside their locker room at Lambeau Field, which is located adjacent to the interview room where Beckham had just spoken with reporters. The grounds crew members then came out to see the hole in the wall.

NFL security is investigating the punching of the wall, taking pictures and speaking with members of the grounds crew, according to Paolantonio, who said Beckham then was banging his against the door located outside the Giants locker room.

A Giants spokesman said the team is aware of the incident but not commenting.

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Maybe he should have done this at halftime.
 
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Gregg Williams is hit or miss. He will have the corners playing 10 yards off the line and blitz almost every play. It got him to 2 Super Bowls, but there were a lot of games where it failed miserably. He still runs a 4-3, Horton ran a 3-4, so they are going to have to make a lot of changes to the personnel. Probably will take a few years. Of course, this is the Browns, they'll probably bring in 2 more QBs and maybe a WR they can't play until he's off suspension. And next year fire all the coaches again.
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Yeah , you kind of confirmed my thoughts that the defense will be no better with that move.....
 
I guess I'll be shunned for saying this, but I haven't watched a football game (NFL or otherwise) in years, except for the Superbowl. I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE NFL... bunch of overpaid juggernauts passing the pigskin.

My brother in law is a superfan. Knows every player, has the fantasy football league, yada yada. Doesn't know shit about current world events. Couldn't name any member of government (state, local, federal, international). Doesn't know what's happening in Crimea, Syria, Iran, etc etc..... Voted for Hillary.

Seriously, I don't know what the big deal is with the NFL. I honestly don't know and don't care. So many people arrange their lives around this sport it's sickening. And I have to listen to all the guys at work jabber ON AND ON about stats and yards and rushing... jesus Christ!

I played varsity football in highschool. I know the sport... I just don't get the absolute devotion it inspires given there is much more to life.
 
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I guess I'll be shunned for saying this, but I haven't watched a football game (NFL or otherwise) in years, except for the Superbowl. I DON'T GIVE A $#@! ABOUT THE NFL... bunch of overpaid juggernauts passing the pigskin.

My brother in law is a superfan. Knows every player, has the fantasy football league, yada yada. Doesn't know $#@! about current world events. Couldn't name any member of government (state, local, federal, international). Doesn't know what's happening in Crimea, Syria, Iran, etc etc..... Voted for Hillary.

Seriously, I don't know what the big deal is with the NFL. I honestly don't know and don't care. So many people arrange their lives around this sport it's sickening. And I have to listen to all the guys at work jabber ON AND ON about stats and yards and rushing... jesus Christ!

I played varsity football in highschool. I know the sport... I just don't get the absolute devotion it inspires given there is much more to life.
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Gives people something in common to talk about without upsetting at least half the crowd. Makes them feel more part of a group. Crimea, Syria, and Iran, etc. or politics discussions tend to not be friendly discussions with large agreement so they are talked about much less.
 
oyarde said:
I expected a close game . GB goes to Dallas . Cowboys better hope they do not get the officiating crew from GB or Seattle games , less than impressive .
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Considering we were on the receiving end of that for decades I'm not real concerned about it.
 
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Considering we were on the receiving end of that for decades I'm not real concerned about it.
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Really nobody can be . It is rarely consistent . Players have to make enough plays to make up for the bad plays and bad calls . That Rogers dude ( GB QB ) is a good example of that . He is always holding the ball longer than he should just looking to make a play.
 
Packers really rebounded in that game vs the Giants. At one point, they had only 29 yards on their first 21 plays.

Chargers deadline for a move to LA counting down. Five days left on the option (unless they give them another extension on it).
 
Falcons' Julio Jones won't shy away from alerting refs vs. Seahawks

FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. -- Falcons receiver Julio Jones, who appeared to be held by Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman on a controversial late no-call back in Week 6, has no plans to "cry" for penalties but won't hesitate to alert officials to foul play in Saturday's divisional playoff rematch.

The previous controversy stemmed from a play with one minute, 39 seconds remaining in regulation of the Seahawks' 26-24 victory in Seattle (Oct. 16). Had a flag been thrown, the Falcons would have sustained the drive for an opportunity at a game-winning field goal.

Jones said he would have no problem throwing up his hands and hunching his shoulders if such an incident happens again this time.

"When we're in a game, I'll go look at them like that and say, 'You didn't see it?' if they didn't see it," Jones told ESPN.com. "I'm not going to sit up there and cry about anything. It is what it is. But you've got to alert them. Some refs just let you play, too. It's like, 'All right, you're going to let us play? Then we're going to go out here and play. If you're going to call it, call it. Just let me know how you're going to officiate this game.'"

Those discussion won't take place before kickoff, Jones emphasized.

"But if you grab me early, I'm going to let the ref know," Jones said. "And if they're not calling it, it's going to be a physical game."
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18454641/alert-refs-seattle-seahawks-hold
 
Some speculation that Spanos is trying to get the league to kick in more money towards a local stadium. The league has been critical that Spanos is not willing to use his own money towards one but wants everybody else to pay for it. The owners are meeting this week discussing stadium issues including the Raiders in Las Vegas but they have not yet raised the Chargers stadium issue which is due to come up the next couple of days. The league did extend the deadline for a decision to Tuesday (it was Sunday but due to playoff games that day and Martin Luther King Day on Monday they are giving them until Tuesday). Owners seem generally against the Chargers leaving San Diego and instead adding an expansion team to LA. Charger ownership has not been willing to discuss things with San Diego city officials or the NFL either one.
 
Spanos makes it official. They might not find that large of a fan base there. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18458293/chargers-announce-move-los-angeles-leaving-san-diego

Spanos is expected to pay the $550 million relocation fee over 10 years, rather than extend the payments beyond that for an additional $100 million. The club will pay roughly $12 million to buy out its Qualcomm Stadium lease in San Diego, according to one team source, then relocate its training facility to Orange County sometime before July 1, when the lease on its training complex expires.
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The Chargers will play their home games the next two seasons at the 30,000-seat StubHub Center in Carson, California. They are promoting it as a "one-of-a-kind product" that gives fans an opportunity to be "up close and personal" with players. There is also the belief that it helps differentiate them from the Rams, who often appeared to be playing before a half-empty stadium at cavernous Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

The move is considered a financial boon for the Chargers, but perhaps it was fitting that rain fell over the city on the morning of the announcement. In virtually every poll of Angelenos -- official and informal -- the Chargers were ranked as the least desirable of the three teams seeking to relocate to the market last year, trailing the Rams and Raiders. Management knows it will be a challenge to establish its roots in the community, which speaks to its planned marketing slogan: Fight for L.A.
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The Chargers will play their home games the next two seasons at the 30,000-seat StubHub Center in Carson, California. They are promoting it as a "one-of-a-kind product" that gives fans an opportunity to be "up close and personal" with players. There is also the belief that it helps differentiate them from the Rams, who often appeared to be playing before a half-empty stadium at cavernous Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.
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Chargers had the lowest average attendance in the league this season- averaging 57,000 while stadium capacity is 70,000.
https://www.statista.com/statistics...ague-teams-ranked-by-average-attendance-2013/

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Just yesterday (Chargers made their decision before their move was even discussed at the meetings):

NFL to push to keep Chargers in San Diego with concern over second L.A. team

Select NFL owners will meet in New York on Wednesday as part of the league's stadium and finance committees and are prepared to make a final pitch to get the Chargers to stay in San Diego, according to numerous league and ownership sources, with the crux of this meeting focused on the Raiders' desire to move to Las Vegas.

There are some grave concerns among owners and the league office about the potential of having two teams in Los Angeles -- the Chargers can exercise an option to move to L.A. next week, and sources said at this point they have no reason not to -- and any subsidy offered to Chargers owner Dean Spanos would be born of those economic fears more than anything else. And while the league's top executives expressed trepidation about Raiders owner Mark Davis's race to move to Nevada at the most recent owner's meeting, pointing out potential issues with the Las Vegas market, league sources anticipate the tone of Wednesday's meeting to be quite different.

The Rams have had a rough first season in Los Angeles and are already engaged in a coaching search, and the ratings in that market were not what some might have hoped for, as well. With both the Rams and Chargers rebuilding and searching for coaches, the timing is less than ideal for another team to join that market. However, sources said that any deal offered Spanos -- such as money to upgrade the stadium in San Diego and remain in that market for a few years until another referendum vote on a new stadium deal could be held -- would likely be less than optimal for the Chargers. Spanos has resisted leaving in the past and has his own concerns about the deal brokered with the Rams, one that would essentially make the Chargers a tenant to Rams owner Stan Kroenke at the stadium in construction scheduled to open in 2019, and there is sense among other owners that even a weak deal to stay in San Diego could carry the day.

Any measure would have to gain approval from the committee on Wednesday, but league sources said several of the owners in that group believe it is worthwhile to concoct some fiscal measure to induce staying in San Diego. Furthermore, sources said the Chargers have not requested any extension of their deadline or any fiscal inducements of any sort. League sources said there have been no overtures to the Chargers at this point, and the Chargers will have no representatives at Wednesday's meeting, as there is no Chargers measure formally on the agenda and Spanos is not a member of this committee. Spanos has until Monday to exercise his previously negotiated window to join Kroenke, and this year's ballot measure to build a new downtown stadium in San Diego did not come anywhere close to the required 66 percent threshold.
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Rams ratings in LA are lower than they were in St Louis and at least they have history in the area. Chargers left LA 55 years ago. Both teams had among the worst records in the NFL this season which is not a lot of incentive for selling tickets.
 
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