OFFICIAL 10/9/2016 Presidential Debate Thread

Even if Trump won't win. More people will be aware of the media manipulation. Imagine if Bush had won the nomination. Trump did a lot for Liberty.

When Trump gets obliterated in just about a month from now, no "outsider" candidate is going to stand a chance for decades to come. That's outsider in the employment sense, and in the ideological sense. Trump has destroyed any hopes the Liberty movement had at the presidency; we'd best keep looking to congressional races.
 
"I heard that..."

Is that what passes for the standard of evidence nowadays? Another bad influence of Trump, he uses this line frequently, usually phrased in the form of a question with an immediate qualifier "I don't know" so critics can't hang a false claim charge on him. His flimflamery is very transparent.
I clearly didn't try to say it was absolute.

Go be an asshole somewhere
 
An independent journalist is at work to find out who stole the tapes and leaked them prematurely. NBC producer Silverstein was to prep them and release today. But someone got them first and released them Friday.
 
It was the Bush people AKA Dan Senor.

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Senor is what we call a 'true believer' in the neoconservative religion. He was senior adviser to the notorious Paul Bremer! This is not some normal civilian analyst/author.

In the lead-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq and during the fighting, Senor was a Pentagon and White House adviser based in Doha, Qatar, at U.S. Central Command Forward; he was subsequently based in Kuwait, working with General Jay Garner during the final days of the invasion and was in southern Iraq when the Saddam Hussein regime fell.

According to Rajiv Chandrasekaran, the author of Imperial Life in the Emerald City, Senor was known for the zealous spin that put a good face on the disaster unfolding in Baghdad (the Iraq War did not end until December 2011). Some statements he made to the press did not reflect the actual situation in the city.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP]

Senor formally re-located to Baghdad on April 20, 2003. He traveled with General Garner's team in the first American post-war civilian protection unit, becoming one of the first American civilians to enter Baghdad after the fall of the regime. In Iraq, Senor served as Chief Spokesperson for the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), as Senior Advisor to Ambassador L. Paul Bremer, and as adviser to the Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance. In the U.S., he was "a regular television fixture in the immediate aftermath of the 2003 Iraq invasion", thus becoming "the face of the Bush Administration's efforts in Iraq".[SUP][2][/SUP]


Senor remained in Iraq until the summer of 2004. His 15 months working for the CPA from Baghdad made him one of the longest-serving American civilians in Iraq at the time. For his service, he was awarded the Department of Defense Distinguished Civilian Service Award, one of the Pentagon's highest civilian honors.
 
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Billionaire Paul Singer is believed to be involved as well. Singer was Marco Rubio's most notable backer.
 
Strawmen arguments aren't pretty. Follow some logic here with me, k? If Trump was originally a Clinton plant then that is history and you can't change history and would make him still a Clinton plant. Whether he is growing tired of his role or is proving more difficult to control than they planned is a different story. You asked a specific question and received a specific answer. Once a plant, always a plant. Doesn't mean he's a good plant, just a plant.

Trump's specific kind of plant is more like a weed
 
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