Obama Would Have Never Won Without Racism

Amen. I find it very disturbing that many people in our electorate have voted in the next President of the United States just because he's Black. That is pure racism, and even I can see that as a Black American myself. Here's the double standard: if a person votes for McCain because he doesn't want a Black man as President, that's considered racist (and rightly so), but if a person votes for Obama because he feels we need a Black President, that's considered "historic." It really makes me sick, and all the race-baiting which emanates from many Obama supporters only perpetuates the issue of racism when the issue should be irrelevant in the first place.

There is a difference between whites "keeping a black man out of office" and blacks for the first time ever helping one of their own get elected, after years of being discriminated against.

Was it racist for Catholics to vote for JFK?
 
There is a difference between whites "keeping a black man out of office" and blacks for the first time ever helping one of their own get elected, after years of being discriminated against.

Was it racist for Catholics to vote for JFK?

Most people wouldn't have had an issue with Obama getting so much of the black vote if they didn't think he was a) unqualified and b) a socialist.

And no, Catholics voting for JFK was not racism, but it was voting for their own kind without other merit, which in this case of your argument is the same thing. So, in effect, yes imho.
 
Why Not Vote for the Best Person for the Job, Not "One of Our Own?"

There is a difference between whites "keeping a black man out of office" and blacks for the first time ever helping one of their own get elected, after years of being discriminated against.

Was it racist for Catholics to vote for JFK?

"One of their own?" That's what I'm talking about. Why do we continue to separate ourselves in American society by the color of our skin? That's not what's important. What we believe concerning morality, liberty, property, verity, and prosperity is what should define a people, not skin tone. If the KKK "helped one of their own" by ensuring that John McCain got elected, you would undoubtedly conclude that's racist. How is that any different than Blacks "helping one of their own" get elected, especially a socialist, gun-grabbing, baby-killing, non-Constitutionalist like Obama? You are arguing on a double standard.

By the way, Catholics voting for JFK because he was a Catholic is not racist at all. That is simply basing your vote upon the religious virtues and creeds you share with another person, which is fine (even though I disagree with Roman Catholics on a number of doctrines). You're comparing apples and oranges there.
 
"One of their own?" That's what I'm talking about. Why do we continue to separate ourselves in American society by the color of our skin? That's not what's important. What we believe concerning morality, liberty, property, verity, and prosperity is what should define a people, not skin tone. If the KKK "helped one of their own" by ensuring that John McCain got elected, you would undoubtedly conclude that's racist. How is that any different than Blacks "helping one of their own" get elected, especially a socialist, gun-grabbing, baby-killing, non-Constitutionalist like Obama? You are arguing on a double standard.

By the way, Catholics voting for JFK because he was a Catholic is not racist at all. That is simply basing your vote upon the religious virtues and creeds you share with another person, which is fine (even though I disagree with Roman Catholics on a number of doctrines). You're comparing apples and oranges there.


Well stated..

why would you want to help your "own" get into the white house? what about getting someone in there who can actually do the job and will fulfill their oath of office.. I dont care if its a gay, nerdy albino phillipino.. if he can do the job I will vote for him.
 
Catholics voted for JFK on values, not because he was one of their own. They chose him as the best to better America.
 
He didn't really get much out of that did he?



There's no reason for them to be elated because they were all white. Just like blacks don't get excited when a black person wins in Nigeria.

This is what passes for reasoned discourse with you and your kind. Yer an idiot to put it mildly. You oughta learn something about your PEOPLE..or to put it properly..history.. If you have any inkling of curiosity beyond some knee jerk propensity to collectivize yourself with the flavor of the day. The Moors are quite prominent in the early history of America. They may even have claim to it by right of discovery. The first President was not George Washington. There were seven prior to him under The Articles of Confederation. That didn't quite work out. The first President was a Moor. What you would call a black man..seeing as I find people claiming to be "black" that have a white mother or father.. it seems quite an inclusively exclusive category. Washington was first President under The Constitution.

Here.. I will help you learn about "your people". First a pretty picture for you to imagine with..heh

John_Hanson_Portrait_1770.jpg

JOHN HANSON- First Black President- Was a MOOR, Highly respected Obscure 'Black Heads Of Europe' Group that are known for Building Nations and Re-building after conflicts or Earth upheavals.
tgd


A "Black" Man, A Moor, John Hanson
Was the First President of the United States! 1781-1782 A.D.
http://www.dickgregory.com/dick/14_washington.html

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A "Black" Man, A Moor, John Hanson
Was the First President of the United States! 1781-1782 A.D.

George Washington
was really the 8th President of the United States!

George Washington was not the first President of the United States. In fact, the first President of the United States was one John Hanson. Don't go checking the encyclopedia for this guy's name - he is one of those great men that are lost to history. If you're extremely lucky, you may actually find a brief mention of his name.

The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation.
This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land).

Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.

As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for all future Presidents.

He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid. As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch.

All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson as the only guy left running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troops down and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have been bowing to King Washington. In fact, Hanson sent 800 pounds of sterling siliver by his brother Samuel Hanson to George Wasington to provide the troops with shoes.

Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite the feat, considering the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States since the days following Columbus.

Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents.

President Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department.

Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.

The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one year term during any three year period, so Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time.

Six other presidents were elected after him - Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (1788) - all prior to Washington taking office.

So what happened?

Why don't we ever hear about the first seven Presidents of the United States?

It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. The individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon.

A new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitution.

And that leads us to the end of our story.

George Washington was definitely not the first President of the United States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution we follow today.

And the first seven Presidents are forgotten in history.

HTH
Randy

Addendum.. You can STFU now and go read a book.:D
 
Thanks for that, I have been curious about that period in American history for some time.

The racism card was not played by accident or out of spite. The "first" "black" president happens to have a radical socialist, anti-American/globalist agenda. Anyone who speaks out against these ideas--which have been hugely unpopular when white guys proposed them in the past-- will be branded as racist.

The Ron Paul campaign has already fallen victim to this tactic. Long after the racism charge against Dr. Paul was debunked, the racism chatter continues. Now in the minds of the fool electorate "Constitution = Racism".

The "Office of President-Elect" is causing race problems where none previously existed. Exposing this tactic for what it is must be one of our top priorities so we can cut through the BS and actually discuss the issues.
 
i dissagree. Bush has been a disaster. The republican party has been a disaster. McCain/Palin is a disaster, and would of lost to a banana.
 
i dissagree. Bush has been a disaster. The republican party has been a disaster. McCain/Palin is a disaster, and would of lost to a banana.

I basically think you've hit the nail on the head, but I think you overstated it slightly. McCain/Palin wouldn't have lost to a banana.

Any idiot can see that two bananas are better than one.
 
We are getting a black First Lady, not the first black president.

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A huge amount of black people have voted for the democrat for years now, stop making this such a big god damn deal. Hell, I'm willing to bet more people didn't vote for him purely because he was black.
 
"One of their own?" That's what I'm talking about. Why do we continue to separate ourselves in American society by the color of our skin? That's not what's important. What we believe concerning morality, liberty, property, verity, and prosperity is what should define a people, not skin tone.

In a color blind society fine, but we're not a color blind society. And it's not like black people did it all the time, we did it once, for the first time ever a black person had the opportunity to be elected president. In a country where many blacks are discriminated against daily, they voted for one of their own. That's not racism.

If the KKK "helped one of their own" by ensuring that John McCain got elected, you would undoubtedly conclude that's racist.

You're comparing an organization that hangs black people from trees to the black community voting for Obama, that's a bit of a reach. We're following a President who let blacks die in Katrina, it's not a surprise that blacks don't want to vote for someone who they see as more of the same.
 
Here.. I will help you learn about "your people". First a pretty picture for you to imagine with..heh

John_Hanson_Portrait_1770.jpg

JOHN HANSON- First Black President- Was a MOOR, Highly respected Obscure 'Black Heads Of Europe' Group that are known for Building Nations and Re-building after conflicts or Earth upheavals.

If that guy's black then I'm effing charcoal. Black people were slaves and the people who founded this country owned slaves - you can't deny that.
 
A huge amount of black people have voted for the democrat for years now, stop making this such a big god damn deal. Hell, I'm willing to bet more people didn't vote for him purely because he was black.

I agree with you 100%. Are we supposed to believe that white people have entirely gotten over their racism now? I am sure that many whites voted for McCain based on race, even if they don't admit it.
 
In a color blind society fine, but we're not a color blind society. And it's not like black people did it all the time, we did it once, for the first time ever a black person had the opportunity to be elected president. In a country where many blacks are discriminated against daily, they voted for one of their own. That's not racism.



You're comparing an organization that hangs black people from trees to the black community voting for Obama, that's a bit of a reach. We're following a President who let blacks die in Katrina, it's not a surprise that blacks don't want to vote for someone who they see as more of the same.

it is racism when you say we vote for one of our own. we are all "our own".


and by the way it is not the job of the president to act in natural disasters. blame the state of Louisiana or FEMA. having said that George Bush is a Douche all the same.
 
If that guy's black then I'm effing charcoal. Black people were slaves and the people who founded this country owned slaves - you can't deny that.

If you go back far enough into history, every group of people at some point in time was enslaved. And what about the Native Americans? They got screwed over worse than anyone.
 
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I agree with you 100%. Are we supposed to believe that white people have entirely gotten over their racism now? I am sure that many whites voted for McCain based on race, even if they don't admit it.

Two wrongs make a right now.
 
If that guy's black then I'm effing charcoal. Black people were slaves and the people who founded this country owned slaves - you can't deny that.

What the fuck does this drivel have to do with today. I also see because the guy who IS a Black Moor doesn't fit your definition of what a black man should look like then you discount it. Obama looks about the same race wise as the man in the painting. Those are not pure caucasian features. I see it as simply this clown. Yer on a roll with yer stupid philosophical stance and regardless of any logic proffered or historical reference given you are gonna stick to the "throwing your toys from the playpen" instead of dealing with proper human discourse based on equitable and individual characterstics. In other words yer just another collectivized moron that demands group rights when that is a pure fiction and philosophical fantasy designed for the chisel of polarity to carve society into opposing factions to set them up for the big skim off. I am hardly impressed with you, those who think like you and frankly, you clowns are gonna meet allot of counter aggression with this kind of prevalent attitude. There are other black folks on this thread who do not have the issues you have. You are not color blind and you do not wish to be. I come from Canada. I was color blind prior to running into swaths of fools like you in the South. I have an entirely different mindset having endured BS and ridicule, been jumped on and arrested, ripped off by and treated like shit by black employees because, simply that I am not black. You do not do yourself any favors with this racist mindset you sport. I work with an NBC Producer from Germany who has the exact same complaints. After being subjected to reverse racism because some white clown owned a slave bought from a black or arab or jewish trader... we get basically accused underhandedly as though we were the trader and subjected to rude or heinous behavior for something we nor they had anything to do with is reprehensible.. So get a fucking grip or perpetuate detrimental mindsets. Yer foolish babblings do nothing but play out your victim status well beyond its due by date. You accomplish nothing but looking like a whiner and allot of us folks are effing sick of the race card. Shove it where the sun don't shine junior.

HTH
Randy
 
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