Obama Would Have Never Won Without Racism

[RickyJ]

That's rich... I'm starting to figure out this forum right quick.

We can't pull the wool over your eyes, can we?


Using the race card to troll isn't going to work around here.

 

[RickyJ]

Best not try me tonight. Fact is, Obama is inspirational to those who see him in person. Those who did see him saw beyond race. He also took the high road in a particularly snarky campaign. I can't remember that ever happening. His very presence made a once-respected war hero make himself look like a chest-thumping stooge. Want more?

Heck no. Keep this crap to yourself. You don't want to make yourself look any more foolish and ignorant than you already have.

 

[RickyJ]

Ed Hale confirms they are in possession of Certified copies of Obama
Kenya Birth Certificate. 3 people risked their lives to get them.

Kenya Birth Certificate
Name: Ed Hale
Date Posted: Oct 11, 08 - 7:36 PM
IP Address: xx.xxx.xx.xxx


Message: I guess the time has come to set the story about Obama Kenya
Birth Certificate. I hosted Phil Berg on our No Obama Talk show on
August 21, 2008. We then had Phil back on August 28, 2008. At that
time I was contacted by one of the HCSFJM member by phone who told me that they were a importer/exporter and they had connection in Kenya. I talked to this person and also talk to Phil about it.

We then discussed a plan on how to get the BC to the USA. We knew that Obama would do anything to stop this. We decide that Caren and I would be the decoy. We would announce that this BC would be shipped to Caren's work place. Actually the BC was never coming to us. Our member was able to find the BC and it cost $1000.00 to get. There was 3 copies of the BC sent to the USA via 3 different carries to 3 different people. HCSFJM had a member very near Phil and this was the primary target.

I received a email on September 14,2008 from our member. The email said "The packages are on their way". I knew that the BC had been secured and was enroute to the USA. 3 days later I received another email that said "The package has been delivered". I knew that our member had deliver the BC to Phil. In addition to Kenya BC, there is 3 certified statement from people who stated they were present when Obama was born.

We are seek additional information at this time about Obama US BC. I have had a person who has looked at the "vault" book for Obama original BC form Hawaii. It does not exist.

All Phil Berg want is to have a court hearing and he will introduce
that Kenya BC. I have a copy of that BC but I will not post it till I
am cleared by Phil.
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Where did you get this from?

If this is true, then all heck is about to break lose. Damn, this might have been the elites' plan all along.

 

[qh4dotcom]

Ok, for all those people out there who think that the United States having a black president has destroyed or turned the page on racism, I give you this to think about. If it were not for racism, Obama would have never gotten his "rockstar" status. If Obama was a plain old white guy with the message of change, he wouldn't have looked special at all and in all likelihood would be just a regular old joe from harvard law. Well, there is my little blurb. What do you guys think about this?

I have to disagree with you...blacks overwhelmingly vote Democratic...I recall John Kerry got 88%....even Bob Conley, the Ron Paul Democrat, got 87% of the South Carolina black vote.

You could say blacks voted for him because he's a democrat AND he's black...but not that they voted for him JUST BECAUSE he's black....the only exception about 1% - 5% of black republicans who crossed party lines to vote for him JUST BECAUSE he's black.

There's a reason why a black man has never been nominated at the Republican party.

 

[BlackTerrel]

I've been saying this all along. Obviously the black people in this country are more interested in skin color than the white people, which to me makes them even more racist than most of the rednecks.

Oh yeah of course, white people never discriminate. It's only blacks that are racist

 

[BlackTerrel]

The fact is, they voted for the man having known nothing of his policies. Only that he is black. It shows a shallowness in our nation that is only skin deep.

You're right. There's no bigger advantage in this country than being black, it's almost like blacks have been running the system since day one and tipped pretty much EVERYTHING towards their advantage.

Am I on Mars?

If being black was such an advantage how come it took more than 200 years to have a black President?

 

[fedup100]

Where did you get this from?

If this is true, then all heck is about to break lose. Damn, this might have been the elites' plan all along.

Yes I agree with you. The Supremes have just let this court case sit and now they post a date of November 18th to hear this case.

I received this in an email this morning.

I am listening to RBN now on the subject and Don Mickleoff, not sure I have spelled this correctly, has investigated this man and McCain and the new stuff coming out on O is just stunning. Apparently Stanley Ann Dunham was not his natural mother and her parents were cia. I mean this stuff is so amazing. I will try to post this recording for today here so all interested can hear this.

Bottom line, he is not 1/2 white or a citizen. He is 1/2 black and 1/2 Arab. This may be a real life manchuren candidate. Notice his advisors now and all his policies are the Bush white house .

Here is the link to the show. I am listening now and assume it is for today 11/8/08 and should be available when it ends today. It is so full of new info on O it will cause you to sit and ponder a long while.

http://republicbroadcasting.org/ind...amID=38&year=8&backURL=index.php?cmd=archives

 

[BlackTerrel]

Woah now, stop right there.

'Whites' don't help 'whites'. We don't see other white people as 'one of us' - they're just regular people to us.

When I walk down the street and see a white guy, race doesn't come in to it. Why would it?

Are you kidding? You think whites don't help each other? You're right, white people never see race.. what was I thinking?

 

[BlackTerrel]

You are violating Department of Agriculture Hogwashing regulations. The "helping one of their own" sounds fucking racist to this Canadian Celt who has lived in Atlanta and endured black antagonism to whites from both cops and street punks for 28 years. Listen pal. I am white. My grandmother was an indentured servant (read-slave) on a Manitoba farm in 1910. I had shit to do with your races history in 19th century US. Nobody ever gave me a fucking break for that. Every break I ever had was due to me busting my ass and studying hard and putting into practice a skillset and proceeding to sell that to the busness community..of all races and colors.. NOT because I was white.

You sound like you've had it really tough. You're right - it sucks being white in this country. Y'all have really gotten the short end of the stick.

 

[BlackTerrel]

I have to disagree with you...blacks overwhelmingly vote Democratic...I recall John Kerry got 88%....even Bob Conley, the Ron Paul Democrat, got 87% of the South Carolina black vote.

You could say blacks voted for him because he's a democrat AND he's black...but not that they voted for him JUST BECAUSE he's black....the only exception about 1% - 5% of black republicans who crossed party lines to vote for him JUST BECAUSE he's black.

There's a reason why a black man has never been nominated at the Republican party.

Well I disagree a little bit. Obama did get more of the black vote than Kerry, but not that much more.

His biggest advantage was the large number of blacks who voted for the first time. Yes, having a black man run finally made them feel like elections were important and that their voice had a chance to be heard. After 40 some odd white guys they were disenfranchised - I don't blame them for that. And I have no problem admitting that millions more came out because they wanted to vote for a black guy. That's not racism, that's finally feeling that your voice counts.

 

[Revolution9]

Oh yeah of course, white people never discriminate. It's only blacks that are racist

So why do you do that which you decry..typical bozo the drooldonkey hypocrite. The real black Africans and Islanders can see through you racist clowns and it embarrasses them. Victimhood looks good on ya pal.. Wear it like a dragqueen costume or its equivalent. Turn it into a revenge gambit for something never happened to you.... Throw your toys out of the playpen now. Whizbango will change your pampers for you.

HTH
Randy

 

[Revolution9]

You're right. There's no bigger advantage in this country than being black, it's almost like blacks have been running the system since day one and tipped pretty much EVERYTHING towards their advantage.

Am I on Mars?

If being black was such an advantage how come it took more than 200 years to have a black President?

That question is the epitome of sheer cerebral vacuuity. It's rhetorical setup was 101. Come on.. With you racist US blacks "free" now due to "one of yours" breaking the glass ceiling you need better gambits as you are up against the real observers and intellects now. When Whizbango the clown fails hard..which he will as he has gathered all the old gang of crooks and warmongers into his administration which may not even start when the Writ of Certeriori at the SC on Dec 1 happens. Seems the fraud was born in Mombasa to an MI5 father. We shall see whether the alleged claims he has never answered to are true come payday.

Yer probably not aware that a black man signed The Declaration of Independence.. but that's alright. Yer edumacted and set on a hairtrigger echo response format response to certain stimuli.. Though you would be boggled to actually explain your stance without resorting to more utter bullshit and obfuscatory prevarication.

Show me one time white people were thrilled about a white guy getting elected in such a manner as the US black community?? We think they are all crooks for the most part. Skin color never mattered.


HTH
Randy

 

[sailor]

'Whites' don't help 'whites'. We don't see other white people as 'one of us' - they're just regular people to us.

When I walk down the street and see a white guy, race doesn't come in to it. Why would it?

That is true.

But on the other hand for many Americans ethnicity does come into it. For example Italian Americans in some more close knit places, or Armenian Americans, or Russian Americans or whoever and so on and on. They will on occasions stick up for one another and do percieve themselves more closely connected with that particular type of Americans than with all Americans in general.

That is not at all different to me. African Americans are simply another ethnicity like that.

And I don`t have a problem with it. Freedom of association and all that.

Democracy is overrated anyway. Infact I think it is much worse to vote for a terrible candidate like Obama because you agree with his stances than voting for him simply because he is of your ethnicity. The second at least means you are less indoctrinated into the whole rigged and false systen of electoral process. It means the establishment doesn`t have you on as a short leash. And it shows you to be less political. Which is a good thing if the alternative is being politicaly (actively) pro-evil.

 

[sailor]

But on the other hand for many Americans ethnicity does come into it. For example Italian Americans in some more close knit places, or Armenian Americans, or Russian Americans or whoever and so on and on. They will on occasions stick up for one another and do percieve themselves more closely connected with that particular type of Americans than with all Americans in general.

What I mean to say is, surely Rudy Gulliani received disproportionatley more Italian American votes when he ran for NY mayor. Surely JFK took the Irish vote by a landslide when he was elected president. Surely next to all Serbian Americans in Ohio voted for George Voinovich for governor.

Is that "racism" too?

 

[Revolution9]

What I mean to say is, surely Rudy Gulliani received disproportionatley more Italian American votes when he ran for NY mayor. Surely JFK took the Irish vote by a landslide when he was elected president. Surely next to all Serbian Americans in Ohio voted for George Voinovich for governor.

Is that "racism" too?

I would moniker that culturalism. The race is not different but the cultural underpinnings are.

Best Regards
Randy

 

[pacelli]

Oh yeah of course, white people never discriminate. It's only blacks that are racist

"White" people discriminate against members of their own skin color in the same way that "Black" people discriminate against members of their own skin color. There are just as many within-group differences as there are between-group differences.

There are many factors that go into these between-group and within-group issues:

First, one of the most significant and fundamental ways that the multicultural counseling movement has affected and continues to affect the counseling profession is by describing the between-groups differences that are commonly manifested among persons in diverse racial/ethnic/cultural groups. These differences include the ways that people in diverse groups construct meaning of such concepts as human development, mental health, psychological maturity, and appropriate psychological helping interventions (Ivey, D'Andrea, Ivey, & Simek-Morgan, 2007; D. W. Sue & Sue, 2003). By drawing from culturally different cosmological perspectives, multicultural counseling theorists have enabled counselors to broaden their understanding of these and related concepts in ways that extend far beyond the culturally encapsulated constructions of such concepts that have dominated the profession in the past (Wrenn, 1962, 1985).

Second, in addition to illuminating these between-groups differences, multicultural counseling theorists have described the within-group psychological differences that are routinely manifested among persons in the same racial/cultural groups as well. Advancements in racial/cultural identity development theories greatly enhanced counselors' understanding of the different ways individuals in the same groups develop psychologically (Cross, 1971, 1991; Helms, 1990, 1995; D. W. Sue & Sue, 2003).

Third, counselors' knowledge of both between-group and within-group differences has been aided further by the introduction of additional theoretical models that highlight the multidimensionality of human development. This advancement is reflected in the development of the Dimensions of Personal Identity model (Arredondo & Glauner, 1992; Arredondo et al., 2008) and the RESPECTFUL (R = religious/spiritual issues, E = economic class issues, S = sexual identity issues, P = psychological developmental issues, E = ethnic/racial identity issues, C = chronological issues, T = trauma and threats to well-being, F = family issues, U = unique physical issues, L = language and location of residence issues) counseling framework (D'Andrea & Daniels, 2001).

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-8055558/A-40-year-review-of.html

 

[Theocrat]

Race Voting Card: DECLINED

Ok, for all those people out there who think that the United States having a black president has destroyed or turned the page on racism, I give you this to think about. If it were not for racism, Obama would have never gotten his "rockstar" status. If Obama was a plain old white guy with the message of change, he wouldn't have looked special at all and in all likelihood would be just a regular old joe from harvard law. Well, there is my little blurb. What do you guys think about this?

Amen. I find it very disturbing that many people in our electorate have voted in the next President of the United States just because he's Black. That is pure racism, and even I can see that as a Black American myself. Here's the double standard: if a person votes for McCain because he doesn't want a Black man as President, that's considered racist (and rightly so), but if a person votes for Obama because he feels we need a Black President, that's considered "historic." It really makes me sick, and all the race-baiting which emanates from many Obama supporters only perpetuates the issue of racism when the issue should be irrelevant in the first place.

 

[Revolution9]

Amen. I find it very disturbing that many people in our electorate have voted in the next President of the United States just because he's Black. That is pure racism, and even I can see that as a Black American myself. Here's the double standard: if a person votes for McCain because he doesn't want a Black man as President, that's considered racist (and rightly so), but if a person votes for Obama because he feels we need a Black President, that's considered "historic." It really makes me sick, and all the race-baiting which emanates from many Obama supporters only perpetuates the issue of racism when the issue should be irrelevant in the first place.

I am in Atlanta in Little Five Points. I have warned the locals. They also know I am a Ron Paul guy (I took over the square for a 14 hour bands and speakers R3-love-ution event on the 700th anniversary of the Templars arrest) though some still get that confused with a Bush Republican. They now see my words of warning coming true as he packs the jackals close by into his cabinet. I tell them.. "I am over 40. I will not be drafted into the coming wars. They will be in Africa because before the black folk would not let that happen..but now they will." Then there is the Afghani heroin trade that is up for grabs. Of course whizbango, whose Thief of Staph, Rahm Emmanuel has been laundering money profits from heroin smuggling for the red chinese Secret Police via the Chicago commodities markets and his various financial industry frontman positions, is more than happy to assist with. To the detriment of those he loves. Rahm Emmanuel is the North American Station Chief for The Mossad ( The Institution).

All I ever ask from a man to give him the respect he deserves is offer me the same. I don't care who or what color or shape you are. Surprises and gifts come in packages of all shapes and size and wrappings, and are judged by character content rather than fancy trimming and bows and fancy paper wrappings. Hypocrisy is an offense that invites sardonic, cutting wit to be sallied forth and cause the bleed of of thousand cuts to ensue so the remaining contents of the infection can be bled out..or they will remain, suffering the holder. You want to see suffering. See if you can spot the difference in whizbango before and after his first security meeting. The boy is whupped already. He has been told exactly where the velvet ropes of his presidency start and end. He knows he will get nothing done but as inexperienced as he really is, it is just hitting home he is a puppet merely and nothing close to a messiah.

Why did his wife wear a dress with a "Black Widow" symbol on it at the inauguration? Ponder the dualistic meaning in that strategic illuminist symbolism.

Best Regards
Randy

 

[RickyJ]

Are you kidding? You think whites don't help each other?

I wish they would. If they did my life would be much easier.

Unfortunately the majority of whites with significant amounts of money don't give a rat's ass about other whites, unless they are pretty young things. But they also don't give a rat's ass about any American regardless of color. They are seeking short term-profits while the country they live in turns into a third world nation. They don't care. They only care about money now, to hell with the future. Blacks do tend to help other blacks out, which is a good thing. But if you are counting on Obama to help blacks out then I am afraid you will be disappointed. Obama also only wants money now and to hell with the future. He doesn't care.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Yer probably not aware that a black man signed The Declaration of Independence.. but that's alright.

He didn't really get much out of that did he?

Show me one time white people were thrilled about a white guy getting elected in such a manner as the US black community?? We think they are all crooks for the most part. Skin color never mattered.

There's no reason for them to be elated because they were all white. Just like blacks don't get excited when a black person wins in Nigeria.