Obama will REQUIRE community service -- PLEASE DIGG

[chrisc888]

I see a few problems with this:

1) It's unconstitutional by the 13th amendment. That's why they can give criminals community service sentences.
2) There will be a backlog of people all at once trying to work with a limited number of organizations. There are only so many service organizations to work with - unless he just makes a new executive department to find things to do. (probably will be the case)
3) What about poorer teens who need to have a PAYING job to help support their family? They would have no time for this.
4) I don't want to do it.
5) It's freaking scary that this might happen. I hope congress has enough dignity left to vote it down. Hell, for all we know, he'll try to bypass the congress altogether.

 

[bricklayer]

Rahm on Charlie Rose speaking about "Universal Service"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUYpjPq5rbA (See 6:00 on, particularly 6:45~7:45)

 

[torchbearer]

they can kiss my ass.
the only reason I pay my property taxes is because i'm out gunned by the sheriff's department.
Any force labor will be met with resistance.
I feel the spirit of '76 swelling.
Obama may have been the medicine we needed to mass produce the red pill.

 

[TastyWheat]

Our first black president and he decides to bring back slavery. You gotta love the irony.

 

[libertarian4321]

ok. And if we refuse to do the community service?

Well, this is hardly a new or revolutionary idea.

My little High School made me do this almost 30 years ago. I'm sure lots of other schools already do this.

It was a requirement for graduation, just like chemistry, math, or Phys. Ed. You don't do the work, you don't graduate, simple as that.

It wasn't a big deal- a lot of people did really simple stuff, like painting the bleachers at the football field, planting trees, picking up litter, tutoring, stuff like that. Others did harder stuff like visiting old folks homes or volunteering at charity fundraisers. Almost anything useful would qualify. A lot of us who were already volunteering with other school and civic organizations (e.g. Boy Scouts), had the requirement done by the end of our freshman year.

50 hours over 4 years ain't much, folks. Basically, 1 or 2 Saturdays a year, and your done.

 

[torchbearer]

Well, this is hardly a new or revolutionary idea.

My little High School made me do this almost 30 years ago. I'm sure lots of other schools already do this.

It was a requirement for graduation, just like chemistry, math, or Phys. Ed. You don't do the work, you don't graduate, simple as that.

It wasn't a big deal- a lot of people did really simple stuff, like painting the bleachers at the football field, planting trees, picking up litter, tutoring, stuff like that. Others did harder stuff like visiting old folks homes or volunteering at charity fundraisers. Almost anything useful would qualify. A lot of us who were already volunteering with other school and civic organizations (e.g. Boy Scouts), had the requirement done by the end of our freshman year.

50 hours over 4 years ain't much, folks. Basically, 1 or 2 Saturdays a year, and your done.

A school requirement that affects one school is ok. Go to a different school.
The federal government requiring forced labor is communism.
Wake the fuck up.

 

[Zera]

I remember him mentioning community service in one of the debates, but he actually said that it would pay for your college if you did it or tax cuts and stuff. I don't think it's actually required for no reason.

 

[libertarian4321]

Any force labor will be met with resistance.

I think the "slavery" and "labor camp" comments are a bit extreme.

You probably did thousands of hours of homework in HS without screaming "SLAVERY!"

But they ask for 50 hours of planting trees (or whatever) and we become unhinged?

Plus, we know nothing about how this will be implemented- I'd be willing to be it will be left up to schools to voluntarily add this requirement.

So maybe we should wait and make sure we know the story before we light our torches, grab pitchforks, and start marching?

Just a thought...

 

[libertarian4321]

A school requirement that affects one school is ok. Go to a different school.
The federal government requiring forced labor is communism.
Wake the fuck up.

Well, if you want to become unhinged, fine, I can't stop you.

There are plenty of folks on these boards that are one bad day away from mentally snapping (frankly, I didn't think you were one of them).

I know we love to go NUTS about everything on these boards, I'm just trying to be the voice of reason here. I don't see it as the "end of the Republic" or "end of the world as we know it."

 

[libertarian4321]

I already perform mandatory community service. It is called paying a SHITLOAD of taxes.

Exactly.

Can I trade a 10% reduction in my taxes for 100 hours of community service (I already do way more than that anyway)?

 

[sirachman]

I think the "slavery" and "labor camp" comments are a bit extreme.

You probably did thousands of hours of homework in HS without screaming "SLAVERY!"

But they ask for 50 hours of planting trees (or whatever) and we become unhinged?

Plus, we know nothing about how this will be implemented- I'd be willing to be it will be left up to schools to voluntarily add this requirement.

So maybe we should wait and make sure we know the story before we light our torches, grab pitchforks, and start marching?

Just a thought...

Are you insane? This is the government requiring you to do unpaid labor! This will not stand PERIOD!

 

[Zera]

Can anyone confirm whether or not this requirement is for the college tuition or tax cut that Obama mentioned during one of the debates if you did community service?

 

[torchbearer]

I think the "slavery" and "labor camp" comments are a bit extreme.

You probably did thousands of hours of homework in HS without screaming "SLAVERY!"

But they ask for 50 hours of planting trees (or whatever) and we become unhinged?

Plus, we know nothing about how this will be implemented- I'd be willing to be it will be left up to schools to voluntarily add this requirement.

So maybe we should wait and make sure we know the story before we light our torches, grab pitchforks, and start marching?

Just a thought...

What happens when you don't comply?
You may enjoy being a slave, but i don't.
You don't think its bad that the government require you to do work.
You're retarded. In fact, what the fuck are you doing here???
Oh and hour a saturday isn't so bad... well, whose hour is it?
Whose labor is it? Whose life is it? Whose body is it?
Its not yours according to Obama. In fact, he is so generous, who is going to allow you to keep 99% of your week free. Isn't that swell?
He's a great guy.

 

[RickyJ]

I thought this was a joke but I checked it out and it looks legit. Obama won't last long with policies like that. Piss off Americans and you will feel their wrath no matter what office you hold.

 

[angelatc]

http://www.change.gov/page/s/application



What's PTT.gov?

TT = Transition Team

 

[tropicangela]

You're either doing community service, or you're with the terrorists.

 

[SnappleLlama]

I'm so angry right now. What the hell can we do?

 

[angelatc]

Well, if you want to become unhinged, fine, I can't stop you.

There are plenty of folks on these boards that are one bad day away from mentally snapping (frankly, I didn't think you were one of them).

I know we love to go NUTS about everything on these boards, I'm just trying to be the voice of reason here. I don't see it as the "end of the Republic" or "end of the world as we know it."

If you don't see mandatory government service as the end of the world as we know it, then we can't help you.

 

[Zera]

Can anyone confirm whether or not this requirement is for the college tuition or tax cut that Obama mentioned during one of the debates if you did community service?

Can anyone tell me!?

 

[RickyJ]

Are you insane? This is the government requiring you to do unpaid labor! This will not stand PERIOD!

Well I sure the heck am not going to do 50 hours of service at school unpaid unless I can teach the kids about 9/11 truth! If they let me do that then I will be more than happy to do it.

If not Obama can take his plan and stick it up his ass.