Obama will REQUIRE community service -- PLEASE DIGG

this would surely lead the 2nd great revoltion in america if this had been implemented during our founding fathers days, but i wonder how many people will say its for the good of america and go for it :(:(:(
 
angelatc said:
If you don't see mandatory government service as the end of the world as we know it, then we can't help you.
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You guys are right.

Grab a torch and a pitchfork and run screaming into the street.

Good luck!

I'd love to join you, but my pitchfork is in the repair shop and I'm not quite insane.
 
RickyJ said:
Will you kind of go away already!

No one here knows anymore about this than you do. It is breaking news!
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Well then, can we stop predicting the fall of the nation until we know a little more? Because I swear, I remember he mentioned community service for college tuition and tax cuts during the debate. In that case, it wouldn't be mandatory, and may be beneficial.
 
angelatc said:
If you don't see mandatory government service as the end of the world as we know it, then we can't help you.
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This is what I meant by the real work being after the election. We need to get better organized, and not relying solely on the internet or traditional communication. This all sounds so insane but I bet the next thing to go will be the net or at least a majority of its freedom.
 
Zera said:
Well then, can we stop predicting the fall of the nation until we know a little more? Because I swear, I remember he mentioned community service for college tuition and tax cuts during the debate. In that case, it wouldn't be mandatory, and may be beneficial.
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And I'm going by the text off his freaking web page:

"The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps.

Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
"

http://www.change.gov/americaserves

says nothing about voluntary, says nothing about tax credits for your kid doing service in midde school.....
 
libertarian4321 said:
I think the "slavery" and "labor camp" comments are a bit extreme.

You probably did thousands of hours of homework in HS without screaming "SLAVERY!"

But they ask for 50 hours of planting trees (or whatever) and we become unhinged?

Plus, we know nothing about how this will be implemented- I'd be willing to be it will be left up to schools to voluntarily add this requirement.

So maybe we should wait and make sure we know the story before we light our torches, grab pitchforks, and start marching?

Just a thought...
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What is "libertarian" about Obama's plan for involuntary servitude? Please explain fully.

BTW, he did NOT say that his plan was limited to high school or college kids, like that is ok either, he said ALL Americans.
 
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libertarian4321 said:
You guys are right.

Grab a torch and a pitchfork and run screaming into the street.

Good luck!

I'd love to join you, but my pitchfork is in the repair shop and I'm not quite insane.
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:rolleyes: No, you are right. Go along to get along. Join the slavery.
Because its better to live a thousand years as a slave, than one day as a free man.
 
thomaspaine23 said:
And I'm going by the text off his freaking web page:

"The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps.

Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
"

http://www.change.gov/americaserves

says nothing about voluntary, says nothing about tax credits for your kid doing service in midde school.....
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Well, I'll wait this one out until I make any commotion. 1) He doesn't have any power yet, and 2) the site has just launched, updates are inevitable.
 
Zera said:
Well, I'll wait this one out until I make any commotion. 1) He doesn't have any power yet, and 2) the site has just launched, updates are inevitable.
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I figure better to make the commotion now, (so hopefully they'll backtrack and call it a "gaffe" etc.)
 
Zera said:
Can anyone confirm whether or not this requirement is for the college tuition or tax cut that Obama mentioned during one of the debates if you did community service?
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Even if it starts out this way, they are going to expand it, and later probably tie it in with universal health care in some way. This is key, because when they have control over your health, they have control over you.

In a few years, it will expand to cumpulsory service for private contracting companies (the same damn cronies) and multinational corporations. They may have to wait a few years for a "conservative" fascist to implement that idea. With another terrorist attack, well you get the idea of what happens, since a large chunk of this will be geared for homeland security. The economy will be so bad, people will have no other option. All of this is so damn familiar. These liberals that claim they are so smart, are the biggest suckers for propaganda. They are very weak minded.
 
http://www.examiner.com/x-536-Civil-Liberties-Examiner~y2008m11d6-Obamas-chief-of-staff-choice-favors-compulsory-universal-service

It's time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, All Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service. ...

Here's how it would work. Young people will know that between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five, the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service. They'll be asked to report for three months of basic civil defense training in their state or community, where they will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear or conventional attack; how to assist others in an evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we're hit by a natural disaster. These young people will be available to address their communities' most pressing needs.
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Zera said:
Well, I'll wait this one out until I make any commotion. 1) He doesn't have any power yet, and 2) the site has just launched, updates are inevitable.
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I don't think anyone was going to do much, maybe organize a march, but until he implements the plan, and uses force to execute it, people will actively resist.


We're venting, because we're pissed.
 
I'll be resisting this.

But let's not get crazy, let's get ready. This is a bill like any other, and it can be defeated. Hell, it's not even a bill yet, it's only a plan for a bill. We have an opportunity here. We have a compendium of intents that we can use to be ready to oppose each and every one.
 
Looks like most of you forgot something....that Congress has to approve any mandatory community service.

Yes, I know....It's likely that Obama will somehow manage to get it passed.
 
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