Obama will REQUIRE community service -- PLEASE DIGG

But without protesting now, they are free to insert whatever "particulars" into a proposal. I'm not suggesting we vilify anyone, I'm saying we use reason and philosophy to explain why this is a bad proposal - put pressure on our "representatives" now, so they can't even think about writing bad legislation without feeling a backlash.

If a bill is presented with particulars that are still offensive, that is when we step up the protestation - and attack the particulars.

Fark Thread discussing this. Are people really this supportive of the plan, as written?

what is it called when satire and sarcasm are no longer comical because they're all too true? is there a name for this? end of times, perhaps?
 
I'm ashamed of Fark. I used to be extremely active on that site until the Obama crap started pouring down.
 
why is this new news to people? ive been saying this from day one! this just sets the stage for a draft...fuck u obama...i wont be doing any community service!
 
I'm ashamed of Fark. I used to be extremely active on that site until the Obama crap started pouring down.

And the peer ridicule already begins. The talk of dissenters being anti-community. Lazy. Talk of "no one said 'fixing America' would be easy."

The American Democracy is realized.
 
"And there was much rejoicing."
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Jungsturm Barak Obama!!
Die Obama-Jungen!
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"Arbeit macht frie!!!"
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"Big Smile!!"

(In Lethal Weapon 2, Riggs does a mock Nazi salute in the South African Consulate while saying "Big Smile".)

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A $4,000 tax credit for community services implies you already worked for the original $4,000, which they have now stolen from you.

Now they are proposing to give back the original $4,000 but only if you work for the same money a second time! :eek:

Someone in this thread calculated this to be $40.00/hour for 100 hours of "service". But in reality you are working for free just to recover your own property.
 
A $4,000 tax credit for community services implies you already worked for the original $4,000, which they have now stolen from you.

Now they are proposing to give back the original $4,000 but only if you work for the same money a second time! :eek:

Someone in this thread calculated this to be $40.00/hour for 100 hours of "service". But in reality you are working for free just to recover your own property.

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The real question is what will be considered "service?" My children are already involved serving their community through their church organization on a voluntary basis. Are they going to count this as service? I am sure serving for the Obama campaign is more likely to get the nod.
 
Your going to love this...it has already been adopted at my daughter's school. She is required to serve. Also, the service hours my daughter does for my church does not count. Only our completed serving at someone else's church count for service. For instant, if my daughter wants paint the church, she can not paint her own church, she has to paint someone else's church. Even if my church decided to do a community service project that did not benefit itself in anyway (which it often does), my daughter would not get credit because she is serving in her own church organization. Can you freaking believe this?!!! I should get some supreme court action going on this B.S.!
 
Your going to love this...it has already been adopted at my daughter's school. She is required to serve. Also, the service hours my daughter does for my church does not count. Only our completed serving at someone else's church count for service. For instant, if my daughter wants paint the church, she can not paint her own church, she has to paint someone else's church. Even if my church decided to do a community service project that did not benefit itself in anyway (which it often does), my daughter would not get credit because she is serving in her own church organization. Can you freaking believe this?!!! I should get some supreme court action going on this B.S.!

Teaching our children that helping their church is pointless and wrong... priceless.
 
Your going to love this...it has already been adopted at my daughter's school. She is required to serve. Also, the service hours my daughter does for my church does not count. Only our completed serving at someone else's church count for service. For instant, if my daughter wants paint the church, she can not paint her own church, she has to paint someone else's church. Even if my church decided to do a community service project that did not benefit itself in anyway (which it often does), my daughter would not get credit because she is serving in her own church organization. Can you freaking believe this?!!! I should get some supreme court action going on this B.S.!

that is what it will take. and you have standing.
 
that is what it will take. and you have standing.

Your right. My daughter has already been told she will not be aloud to graduate if we refuse to serve within their guidelines. What if someone views protesting an abortion clinic as community service? I know that people volunteering for political camapigns is considered service to them. So I can volunteer for Obama, but not my church. (#*&@(&!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Your right. My daughter has already been told she will not be aloud to graduate if we refuse to serve within their guidelines. What if someone views protesting an abortion clinic as community service? I know that people volunteering for political camapigns is considered service to them. So I can volunteer for Obama, but not my church. (#*&@(&!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think homeschooling and foregoing state issued diplomas are going to become popular.
You don't need a piece of paper to run your own business.
 
Does anyone remember the youth Spies organization from 1984?

How long do you figure it'll take for Obama's plan to turn into that?
 
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