Obama signs Executive Order allowing him control over all US resources (3/16/12)

[Zippyjuan]

I do not think they intend it , but it will come.

Ah- the infamous "they".

The Arab Spring would have been a nice time to get the entire Middle East involved if that was what "they" wanted. Aside from Iran and Syria things are more stable there now.

 

[pcosmar]

Ah- the infamous "they".

The Arab Spring would have been a nice time to get the entire Middle East involved if that was what "they" wanted. Aside from Iran and Syria things are more stable there now.

I suspect that is a part of it.. Mubarak was a puppet of the US and Israel. That needed to be removed.
As well as others,, so that full blown war can engulf the entire region.

Israel will not survive it. It was never intended to. It is there to precipitate it.

 

[panemetcircenses]

Unless they took the 2008 funny money and purchased hard assets. I have a feeling these people own gobs of real estate. And the hard assets of production capacity. With all the potential output of guns, ammo, vehicles, bunker building, army raising, and food production.

Exactly. Just look at all the hard assets that have been bought by the banks and corporations backed by the fed. They used their ability to create money in order to buy up and therefore gain control over almost any aspect of the economy and therefore your life. Energy, Food, Water etc... If the money system collapses they are set up well and in full control. Worldwide that is (except countries like Kuba, North Korea, Iran for now...).

 

[anaconda]

Argh it frustrates me if you try to show these things to Obama supporters, they just think you're a conspiracy theorist.

I just got "un-friended" by a Facebook Friend who is an Obama drone. And I was very civil in my comments. She said "while I appreciate healthy political discussions I do not appreciate Obama bashing on my Facebook page." The next day I got deleted as her Facebook Friend. No surprise that the Obama drone was for censorship...

 

[nano1895]

I just got "un-friended" by a Facebook Friend who is an Obama drone. And I was very civil in my comments. She said "while I appreciate healthy political discussions I do not appreciate Obama bashing on my Facebook page." The next day I got deleted as her Facebook Friend. No surprise that the Obama drone was for censorship...

so the only thing that can be "discussed" is what Republicans are doing?

Hmm, it appears that the first defense on facebook has appeared for me! I won't post the whole post but in summary...

1. It's only when in an "emergency crisis."
2. Do you think Obama would've been the only president to have done this?

and now while all of you facepalm I shall go and immerse myself in what will most likely be a several post wall of text discussion.

 

[Dr.3D]

If they crash the economy again and start WWIII they (the banks) will lose it (all that money) again anyways so that would not have made any real difference.

It's not the banks that got all that money, it's those who work in those banks. They got a huge amount of the money and they have it now. It doesn't matter what happens to those banks now. Those who got the money are long gone.

 

[The Free Hornet]

Kindda hard to compile a list of every possible disaster which could strike the US so plans need to by their nature be a bit vague. It would be too complicate to try to plan for every single possible event- say a 5.6 earthquake in downtown Los Angeles vs a hurricane in the Gulf states or tornados in the South or fires in the West or flooding or......
What sort of responce would depend entirely on the facts of each disaster- every one will be different.

You bring up some very good points. I have no idea what disaster might require that I plunder my neighbors' houses for their food, tools, shelter, woman, children. Let's say I need to come up with some cash to pay off some debts, in that case, I need my neighbors' money. On the other hand, maybe I need to build a new wall because some miscreant drove his car into my house. In that case, I need my neighbors' tools. Maybe the power goes out and now I need my neighbors' food. Or I want to fight a war, and I must enlist my neighbors' children.

There really is no telling what I might need from the neighbors in the event of an emergency. No doubt, they will be assured by the uncertainty I face in life and not the least bit concerned about my plans to disarm and threaten them with force of law. If you think about it, my neighbors have no right to question the fact that there is no telling what I might need in an emergency and why I must plan now to take their stuff. It would be very paranoid for them to make the same preparations.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

so the only thing that can be "discussed" is what Republicans are doing?

Hmm, it appears that the first defense on facebook has appeared for me! I won't post the whole post but in summary...

1. It's only when in an "emergency crisis."
2. Do you think Obama would've been the only president to have done this?

and now while all of you facepalm I shall go and immerse myself in what will most likely be a several post wall of text discussion.

i just got into a back and forth with a self-proclaimed republican and how "disrespecting the president" is unwarranted and (to use my own words-- based off of her expressions) unpatriotic. all over my defense of the Constitutionally-protected natural right of the newly-elected mayor of my town to have a "birther" stance.

she declared that this country is a democracy and showed complete ignorance on the minarchist views of the founders. after i corrected her on both-- explaining that this country is a republic which affords the individual from the mob and that we, the people shouldn't seek the federal government for "unity" but rather look to the state in which we live.- she declared me to be "radical and excessive" and also that i needed reason.

so, yeah, even the "republicans" take issue if we don't kiss Our Dear Leader's ring.

Our Dear Leader(s).

i can imagine Sam Adams and Thomas Jefferson facepalming right now.

 

[oyarde]

Ah- the infamous "they".

The Arab Spring would have been a nice time to get the entire Middle East involved if that was what "they" wanted. Aside from Iran and Syria things are more stable there now.

Look at the CBO numbers , when the debt is 20 some trillion and oil is who knows what , do you think the dollar will be worth anything ?

 

[flightlesskiwi]

Look at the CBO numbers , when the debt is 20 some trillion and oil is who knows what , do you think the dollar will be worth anything ?

keeping warm in the winter, maybe.

 

[eduardo89]

I disagree kiwi, I love my country and I love our democracy. That's why I respect MY president. I'll defend both because it's my patriotic duty. Disrespecting MY president means I lack integrity.

I think the mayor should apologize. If he doesn't I'm sure some black helicopters might pay him a visit while he's sleeping.

/s

 

[tommyzDad]

Aaaaah! More "Hope and Change."

 

[John F Kennedy III]

so the only thing that can be "discussed" is what Republicans are doing?

Hmm, it appears that the first defense on facebook has appeared for me! I won't post the whole post but in summary...

1. It's only when in an "emergency crisis."
2. Do you think Obama would've been the only president to have done this?

and now while all of you facepalm I shall go and immerse myself in what will most likely be a several post wall of text discussion.

Feel free to post it in its entirety.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

i just got into a back and forth with a self-proclaimed republican and how "disrespecting the president" is unwarranted and (to use my own words-- based off of her expressions) unpatriotic. all over my defense of the Constitutionally-protected natural right of the newly-elected mayor of my town to have a "birther" stance.

she declared that this country is a democracy and showed complete ignorance on the minarchist views of the founders. after i corrected her on both-- explaining that this country is a republic which affords the individual from the mob and that we, the people shouldn't seek the federal government for "unity" but rather look to the state in which we live.- she declared me to be "radical and excessive" and also that i needed reason.

so, yeah, even the "republicans" take issue if we don't kiss Our Dear Leader's ring.

Our Dear Leader(s).

i can imagine Sam Adams and Thomas Jefferson facepalming right now.

Someone needs to make a pic of both of them facepalming.

And one of Reagan with a broken nose that says something like "your liberal bullshit made me facepalm so hard I broke my nose!"

 

[Chainspell]

it's gonna get really really bad really really fast

 

[rockerrockstar]

Sounds like they want to take over the factories like they did in World War II.

"When the U.S. entered World War II, all domestic passenger automobile production ceased by February 1942. All factories were converted to produce war materiel such as armaments, aircraft and military vehicles.[4] These factories produced an astonishing amount of materiel, including 5.9 million weapons, 2.8 million tanks and trucks, and 27,000 aircraft. This production was a major factor in the victory of the allies."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_industry_in_the_United_States


I don't like the idea of not being able to buy things because the government would rather have a war and cancel production of domestic goods in order to supply war machines/weapons. Even worse they can control the food supply and water supply. Scary.

 

[oyarde]

Sounds like they want to take over the factories like they did in World War II.

"When the U.S. entered World War II, all domestic passenger automobile production ceased by February 1942. All factories were converted to produce war materiel such as armaments, aircraft and military vehicles.[4] These factories produced an astonishing amount of materiel, including 5.9 million weapons, 2.8 million tanks and trucks, and 27,000 aircraft. This production was a major factor in the victory of the allies."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_industry_in_the_United_States One of the major manufacturers in my hometowm peviously making radios and waffle irons started making mines and grenades .

 

[Miss Annie]

This is terrible news. I just skimmed the order. he has made it supposedly legal for the executive branch to take over military and civilian capacities. There is no other way to say it than MARTIAL LAW. He will implement it as soon as the war with Iran starts.

But will the Martial law be instituted before or after the election? My guess is before..........

 

[kezt777]

I remember when TSA was being "discussed". When it was first proposed. I watched it implemented.
And it has become infinitely worse than the early opposition could have imagined.

I expect this from government.They aren't good for much,, but when it comes to seriously fucking up,, they excel.

I lived in Germany before the borders were opened in Europe, and I remember people talking about how 'one day' there was going to be a European currency and most people scoffed at that. The people warning about a general currency were shunned and chastised and called conspiracy theorists (sort of, I dont think that term was used widely over there at the time, but that's the gist of what they meant in their name-calling). I remember it clearly because when I first moved to Germany and drove to my inlaws in England, we had to stop at border/customs in belgium, holland, and france before finally hitting England. Shortly after I moved, the borders were opened and people were happy - welcoming the idea with open arms - while others in the background were warning that this was just the tantalizing treat being dangled in front of their noses so that a european currency could be introduced. Those warners were scoffed at HIGHLY..... and now here we are, 20 years later, and the Euro has been in full swing long enough to already be crumbling and disasterous.

Sorry for the sidebar, but the quoted post reminded me of that.

Back to the main topic - I am actually stunned. I read through all 10 pages of comments here, hoping to find where someone showed this was all a hoax. Of course, it's not. My bf was just telling me this morning about some Gas Committee of overseers and he was angry about THAT - now I just read him the highlights of this executive order and I don't think he took a breath the entire time. Wow. What do they constitute as a 'disaster' where this could be put in place? What do they term as a 'war'? Buckle up Americans! And here I was hoping to one day move down to the US ---- maybe a whole whack of you will end up here instead! (If we can manage to avoid jumping aboard the same sinking ship, that is, which I am not holding my breath for!)

 

[flightlesskiwi]

Awww, what a good wittle neoconservative!!! I could just pinch your wittle King worshipping cheeks!!! So much air swirling around between your ears it must sound like a Cat5 hurricane.

/s. Sarcasm doesn't win anymore and it's politically incorrect except when they use it against you. People suck.

I disagree kiwi, I love my country and I love our democracy. That's why I respect MY president. I'll defend both because it's my patriotic duty. Disrespecting MY president means I lack integrity.

I think the mayor should apologize. If he doesn't I'm sure some black helicopters might pay him a visit while he's sleeping.

/s