Obama signs Executive Order allowing him control over all US resources (3/16/12)

[idiom]

The majority of folks don't care as they are strapped to their sofas having a love fest with Hollywood, sports and Snooki's f**king pregnancy.

Oh, for a second there I had thought Snooki got pregnant via a Turkey Baster.

 

[Lishy]

Pardon my french dear, but it's the whole fucking thing.

There is no special part that you should worry about. This decree takes over EVERYTHING.....in the event of an "emergency".

Can you highlight pieces of interest in the bill for those who cannot read the whole thing, pleeease?

 

[Kluge]

great breakdown:
http://www.404systemerror.com/usa-communism-national-defense-resources-preparedness/

Executive Orders created for national defense and national preparedness are not new in American history, but in each instance they brought about a Constitutional crisis that nearly led standing Presidents to hold dictatorial power over the citizenry. During the Civil War, President Lincoln halted freedom of speech and freedom of the press, while at the same time revoking Habeas Corpus and the right to a fair trial under the sixth amendment. During World War I, when Congress refused to grant Woodrow Wilson extended power over resources to help the war effort, he invoked an Executive Order which allowed him complete control over businesses, industry, transportation, food, and other economic policies.

In both cases, it was only after the death of each President that full Constitutional powers were restored to the citizens of the United States.

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Didn't Obama make some big "to-do" during his inauguration about following in Lincoln's footsteps? I think he actually re-traced his path from Illinois to the White House or some crazy bullshit. People ate it up because he's almost entirely remembered and admired for freeing the slaves (even if that wasn't his true intent), and Obama's half-black, though he doesn't have any American slave ancestors as far as I know.

Theater of the absurd.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

We need a paradigm shift.

 

[giovannile07]

This reminds me of Star Wars. Chancellor Palpatine calling for wartime emergency powers to override voting and he got it then he secretly took over the Republic...

 

[Noblegeorge]

Get ready for war. Theres no other logical or reasonable explanation for this, the NDAA and HR 347 all being passed in quick succession. Surely even the most ardent Obama supporter cannot defend the passing these Acts. Or do they even know? Im going to find a pro Obama forum today and debate with some people there.

 

[ZENemy]

Get ready for war. Theres no other logical or reasonable explanation for this, the NDAA and HR 347 all being passed in quick succession. Surely even the most ardent Obama supporter cannot defend the passing these Acts. Or do they even know? Im going to find a pro Obama forum today and debate with some people there.

I kid you not

I was informing an "Obama Supporter" about these 3 atrocities, she is a black lady in her mid 40's...anyway, I start to tell her about the bills and
she quickly says "well he is better then bush"
I say, "well not really but these 3 things are what bother me" I then pulled them up on the internet, showed her the legit source and
she immediately started crying and said "he just needs more time, why do white people expect him to fix things right away"
so again, I say "Look, what do you mean time, this says he can arrest you, kill you and has already done so"

She started crying even harder and went into the bathroom and told me never to talk her again.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Get ready for war. Theres no other logical or reasonable explanation for this, the NDAA and HR 347 all being passed in quick succession. Surely even the most ardent Obama supporter cannot defend the passing these Acts. Or do they even know? Im going to find a pro Obama forum today and debate with some people there.

Will you start a new thread and post your findings after debating the Obama supporters?

 

[Lord Xar]

Does this have any meat to it?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ndrp.asp#BLA20BImOt3yCb1m.01

 

[Seraphim]

Pathetic.

I kid you not

I was informing an "Obama Supporter" about these 3 atrocities, she is a black lady in her mid 40's...anyway, I start to tell her about the bills and
she quickly says "well he is better then bush"
I say, "well not really but these 3 things are what bother me" I then pulled them up on the internet, showed her the legit source and
she immediately started crying and said "he just needs more time, why do white people expect him to fix things right away"
so again, I say "Look, what do you mean time, this says he can arrest you, kill you and has already done so"

She started crying even harder and went into the bathroom and told me never to talk her again.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

I kid you not

I was informing an "Obama Supporter" about these 3 atrocities, she is a black lady in her mid 40's...anyway, I start to tell her about the bills and
she quickly says "well he is better then bush"
I say, "well not really but these 3 things are what bother me" I then pulled them up on the internet, showed her the legit source and
she immediately started crying and said "he just needs more time, why do white people expect him to fix things right away"
so again, I say "Look, what do you mean time, this says he can arrest you, kill you and has already done so"

She started crying even harder and went into the bathroom and told me never to talk her again.

This is not unlike a video I saw here before, where they tested the electronic voting machines and when it was demonstrated that the votes could easily be flipped with a single card placed in the machines slot that gathered the votes, the woman at the end started crying.....she saw that the corruption of our republic was not only possible, but probable, and her world view was shattered.

 

[Noblegeorge]

Will you start a new thread and post your findings after debating the Obama supporters?

I would, but ive been looking around for the last 20 mins and I cant find a single pro Obama forum with more than a couple people on it! I found two professional looking forums, but theres no action to be found on either.

Funnily enough the most recent thread was Ron Paul v Obama, where the OP descibed the many ways Obama had let him down since voting for him in 08 and how we now a Ron Paul supporter. Thread had zero responses. OP definifetly sounded like a fellow RPF member!

Anyway, il keep trying and if I do get any kind of debate going I will post their responses.

 

[Voluntary Man]

It says war emergency. WTH does that even mean though? What is an emergency? Will they cause the emergency? These orders do frighten me. We still have our guns.

Any threat to the continued growth and power of the federal government: political protests, liberty candidates, voting for liberty candidates, 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, 4th Amendment, 5th Amendment, 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment....stuff like that.

 

[shane77m]

Ya ever feel like yer stuck in a car with a bunch of drunken a-holes, and you keep asking them to pull over because you're not drunk, and you don't feel like speeding through town throwing beer bottles at people and property, and running up on curbs, and shouting at old women, and you just want to get out, but they won't pull over and let you out??

I'm so freaking sick of this crap.

Pretty much describes how I feel. Except now it looks like the driver is running over people.

 

[Kade]

Most of it, if you read it, is fairly basic stuff regarding wartime powers to the executive. However, I am fairly concerned about this little piece:

"National defense" means programs for military and energy production or construction, military or critical infrastructure assistance to any foreign nation, homeland security, stockpiling, space, and any directly related activity. Such term includes emergency preparedness activities conducted pursuant to title VI of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. 5195 et seq., and critical infrastructure protection and restoration.

Here is where the previously mentioned bindings on authorization are thrown out the window, by redefining national defense. The standards invoked specifically is found here:

http://www.fema.gov/pdf/about/stafford_act.pdf

Yeah... FEMA. No good.

 

[Todd]

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