Obama not born in the USA!!!

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Ensuring McCain’s Citizenship - What’s in it for Obama?
http://tinyurl.com/37xbt5

By Leon Siu mailto:[email protected]

3/5/2008

The developing story involving presidential candidate, John McCain’s citizenship
also has ramifications for presidential candidate Barack Obama. As you know, the
question regarding McCain’s foreign-born status has been gaining traction
recently.

It seems the U.S. Constitution has this pesky requirement that a president of
the United States must be a “natural-born Citizen.” That used to mean a person
physically born within the borders of the U.S.

The question raised regarding McCain is, could “natural-born” be construed to
include children born to U.S. citizens who happen to be residing in a foreign
country? The question is moot…unless either the U.S. Supreme Court is asked to
make a determination, or Congress passes legislation to allow it.

On Thursday, Feb. 28. 2008, U.S. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) introduced a bill
to ensure that John McCain can become president, even though he was born in
Panama.

Sen. Barack Obama, a close political ally of Sen. McCaskill immediately
announced he would co-sponsor the legislation.

According to Obama, "Senator McCain has earned the right to be his party's
nominee, and no loophole should prevent him from competing in this campaign."

The questions are: 1) Why does Obama’s close political ally McCaskill, a
Democrat, care about McCain’s eligibility and 2) Why would Obama, a Democrat, be
so keenly interested in making sure that his likely opponent is not disqualified
by the “natural-born Citizen” requirement stipulated in the U.S. Constitution?
What’s in it for him?

Here’s the answer: Obama was also born in a foreign country * Hawaii.

Numerous actions and admissions by the U.S. government since 1893 indicate that
Hawaii is not a lawful territory or state of the U.S. and that Hawaii is
actually a foreign country under hostile occupation by the U.S. Therefore, the
claim that Hawaii is a state of the U.S. is fraudulent.

In recent years, the fraud began to unravel and in recent months, the pace has
accelerated considerably. Court decisions and public policy making in Hawaii are
running into the brick wall of the inconvenient truth: the Hawaiian Kingdom
still exists!

Though severely impaired by the illegal occupation by the U.S., the sovereignty
of the independent, neutral nation, the Hawaiian Kingdom, was never
extinguished. Therefore, the Hawaiian Kingdom has existed in continuity since
its founding in 1810 as a self-governing, independent nation.

That means Obama was born not in the U.S., but on the foreign soil of the
Hawaiian Kingdom. Obama shares McCain’s predicament of constitutional ambiguity
with regard to the citizenship qualification for the presidency. Obama, like
McCain is foreign born.

Obama’s co-sponsoring of the bill to accommodate McCain’s citizenship
qualifications for U.S. president is not an outpouring of magnanimity toward
McCain. It is a calculated, self-serving, pre-emptive measure to ensure that his
own (Obama’s) foreign-born status would be likewise accommodated, should the
question arise of his Hawaiian birth.

Obama’s sponsorship of the bill reveals that there are those in his camp, and
perhaps Obama himself, who know that the Hawaiian Kingdom still exists as a
nation foreign to the U.S.

Most likely the bill will pass to allow McCain’s citizenship quirk to qualify
him for president; it would likewise ensure Obama’s candidacy.

Nevertheless, Obama’s curious co-sponsorship (possibly instigation) of the
“natural-born Citizen” bill indicates that he takes the implications of Hawaii’s
stature as an independent nation seriously enough to cover his bases. Malama
pono.

Leon Siu, a Hawaiian entertainer, can be reached at mailto:[email protected]

HawaiiReporter.com reports the real news, and prints all editorials submitted,
even if they do not represent the viewpoint of the editors, as long as they are
written clearly. Send editorials to mailto:[email protected]
 
The McCain quirk I can understand. But the insinuation that the Kingdom of Hawaii still exits... I'm not buying it.
 

Huh? Obama does not qualify to run for President and neither does McCain. Funny how Obama is trying to have laws past quickly to make sure he is not taken down on this point. I do not want the laws changed, I want both of these hucksters, McCain and Obama disqualified.
 
I appreciate your breathtaking insight on the grassroots effort to get Ron Paul elected. Your ideas will revitalize the movement like nothing seen before.
 
That is such a bunch of crap. I wish he was foreign-born, but that's crrrrrrrap!
 
The McCain quirk I can understand. But the insinuation that the Kingdom of Hawaii still exits... I'm not buying it.

The Kingdom of Hawaii still exists and the statehood vote was a fraud.

If you are interested, this link has lots of material

http://www.alohaquest.com/archive/archive.htm

Here is one page;

To My People:

Whereas, my good and great sister and fellow sovereign, her gracious majesty, Liliuokalani, queen of Hawai'i, has been wickedly and unlawfully dethroned by the machinations of Americans and persons of American descent in those islands, being instigated thereto by the devil, one John L. Stevens; and whereas, my well-concieved plans for the restoration of her sacred majesty have not had the result they deserved but her majesty is still defrauded of her legal rights by her refractory and rebellious subjects, and her position is a just cause of sympathy and alarm; now, therefore, I, Grover Cleveland, President of the United States, do hereby ordain and appoint the last day of April next as a day of solemn fasting, humiliation and prayer.
Let my people humble themselves and repent for their injustice to me and my great and good sister, and pray, without distinction of color, for her speedy return to the throne and the discomfiture of the miserable herd of missionaries and their sons, her enemies and traducers.
Long Live Liliuokalani, the de jure queen of Hawaii


Done at our mansion in Washington this 25th day of February, 1894.
Grover Cleveland A true copy. Attest,
Walter Q. Gresham,
Secretary of State
 
Obama wants McCain in so that he doesn't have to face a certain someone else.
 
You'd have a better argument if he was born somewhere in the Confederate States of America. The CSA legally declared independence and is now occupied territory.
 
You'd have a better argument if he was born somewhere in the Confederate States of America. The CSA legally declared independence and is now occupied territory.

You are correct, The southern states are still technically in reconstruction, and the federal government still has laws that only pertain to southern states.
Reconstruction was the beginning of the end for individuals rights. why?
because the government started "Granting rights" a power it does not have.... for if it has the ability to grant rights, it can take them away.. and thus becomes a power unto itself, and makes us the slave and it the master.

That is why we are in the mess we are in today... the south is still occupied territory.
 
Is it time to revisit thread based on this new development about McCain's citizenship?

A pair of lawyers - one Republican, one Democrat - have concluded that John McCain's 1936 birth outside the continental United States does not disqualify him to be president.


The likely Republican nominee was born on a U.S. naval base in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone.


http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/.../2008/03/28/83738.html?s=al&promo_code=482D-1

Here's the Hawaii Reporter's story about Obama's own questionable citizenship.

The questions are: 1) Why does Obama’s close political ally McCaskill, a Democrat, care about McCain’s eligibility and 2) Why would Obama, a Democrat, be so keenly interested in making sure that his likely opponent is not disqualified by the “natural-born Citizen” requirement stipulated in the U.S. Constitution? What’s in it for him?

Here’s the answer: Obama was also born in a foreign country — Hawaii.

Numerous actions and admissions by the U.S. government since 1893 indicate that Hawaii is not a lawful territory or state of the U.S. and that Hawaii is actually a foreign country under hostile occupation by the U.S. Therefore, the claim that Hawaii is a state of the U.S. is fraudulent.



http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?8f9ebef4-027e-424b-a639-d8459868991c

Obama : "I HOPE I am a U.S. Citizen" :cool:
 
I want our interstate highway back from Hawaii! :D

Yeah. I'm still trying to figure out how those highways are interstate when they don't even run inter-island.

Occupied territory or not, it was granted statehood. And all the federal statutes in the world can't help McCain in the face of an article of the Constitution as statutes do not modify the Constitution. Only an amendment can do that.

Goofy.

P.S. Is your state "illegally occupied" Indian Territory? I know mine is.
 
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While it may well likely be determined by a court that Hawaii is legally a state and Obama has citizenship, it does at least show, IMHO, that Obama is at least concerned enough to back this bill.

He's the freakin' co-sponsor. Is he just lending a buddy "across the aisle" a hand?

"Here you go, my friend. A bill that will ensure that both of us are able to become president." :)
 
"Here you go, my friend. A bill that will ensure that both of us are able to become president." :)

If this University of Chicago law school lecturer thinks that bill can have any effect on an article of the Constitution, the University of Chicago has slipped terribly since I was there and Obama isn't fit to preserve, protect and defend that Constitution.
 
This just in. Bush isn't eligible to be President since the Annexation of Texas was illegal, and thus the Republic of Texas still exists.
 
You are correct, The southern states are still technically in reconstruction, and the federal government still has laws that only pertain to southern states.
Reconstruction was the beginning of the end for individuals rights. why?
because the government started "Granting rights" a power it does not have.... for if it has the ability to grant rights, it can take them away.. and thus becomes a power unto itself, and makes us the slave and it the master.

That is why we are in the mess we are in today... the south is still occupied territory.

Huh. Here all this time I thought the South came back into the Union when they chose to accept Hayes as their president.

I just learned I can't be president either. I was born on what used to be Indian territory that was stolen from America's indigenous people. My luck has run out damn.
 
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