O-Bomb-Ya to make Syria statement

[69360]

Tell that to Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch, and Jacob de Rothschild as their company, Genie Energy, is drilling in the Golan Heights.

Again doesn't matter, not a major source of oil in the world, Israel is and would be less than a percent of global production I believe.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Again doesn't matter, not a major source of oil in the world, Israel is and would be less than a percent of global production I believe.

How many billions is that though?

You mean to tell me that their government ties and our foreign policy is not the reason they got the contract?

Next you are going to tell me that KBR legitimately was chosen to go to Iraq.

It's one hell of a coincidence though. The same players for decades come and go through red and blue administrations as the conflicts never cease. It's almost as if the policies are made for their benefit. Kooky conspiracy theories, I know.

 

[devil21]

Doesn't matter as much anymore. Global demand for oil is down and production in the US is way, way up. We are a net exporter now.

The pipeline doings have nothing to do with US production or global demand. This Syria clusterfuck has opened my eyes to the Saudis influence behind the turmoil in the middle east. They tend to get off scot-free while Israel takes most of the blame but it's become apparent to me that it's about 50/50, with the US gov't being the puppet in the middle. Israel is pulling one set of strings, Saudis are pulling the other set and Obama dances like a good little boy.

 

[69360]

How many billions is that though?

You mean to tell me that their government ties and our foreign policy is not the reason they got the contract?

Next you are going to tell me that KBR legitimately was chosen to go to Iraq.

It's one hell of a coincidence though. The same players for decades come and go through red and blue administrations as the conflicts never cease. It's almost as if the policies are made for their benefit. Kooky conspiracy theories, I know.

Iraq is a different story. We were discussing Israel and the production there is minimal, it really doesn't matter.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Iraq is a different story. We were discussing Israel and the production there is minimal, it really doesn't matter.

The contract is worth billions.

It may be minimal in the size of things and after all of the waste, billions doesn't have the same ring but it is still, billions.

What people would do for a couple thousand dollars is shocking. What people would do for billions of dollars is nothing short of predictable.

Compared to what the profits are, the lobbying is a pittance. It's rather pathetic how little our politicians actually cost in the scope of things.

We aren't going into Syria to seek revenge for gassed children. Same as we didn't go into Iraq to seek revenge for gassed children. (the gas we sold them, I'd add) It is to keep the possibility of war open and justify the outrageous DOD budget. It is to keep the corporate welfare flowing, the contracts coming, and the profiteers profiting. It isn't in our interest, or Syria's interest, or humanity's interest to do what we continue to do year by year, decade by decade.

Whether or not it is a republican or a democrat, they are playing you. They are robbing you. And they are killing in your name. I see posts of Obama can't do this because democrats won't get elected in 2014 or 2016. It is absolutely absurd to think he, or the people behind him who literally control the show, give one fuck about which party gets in or doesn't. The contracts will keep coming. The blood will keep flowing. And the people will keep being propagandized to see hope next election time.

Short of Rand Paul getting elected president in 2016, which is a big if considering who owns NBC, FOX, and the power they wield, not one thing will change. They'll give you a crumb of freedom here or there, scale back mandatory sentencing, relax federal marijuana laws, but the actual things that matter, foreign policy, economic policy, and this police state apparatus will not so much as be defunded one penny. When I say they live in palaces I am not exaggerating or speaking out of line. Billions may seem trivial when trillions are up for grab. It's still a billion dollars.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Yep, doesn't matter whether 'R' or 'D' president gets elected, you will see "Miss Me Yet?" for Obama just like you do for Bush now. The agenda is not owned by a single party or president.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

 

[Peace Piper]

The contract is worth billions.

It may be minimal in the size of things and after all of the waste, billions doesn't have the same ring but it is still, billions.

What people would do for a couple thousand dollars is shocking. What people would do for billions of dollars is nothing short of predictable.

Compared to what the profits are, the lobbying is a pittance. It's rather pathetic how little our politicians actually cost in the scope of things.

Follow the money. It's old advice but astonishing how often it's overlooked.

We aren't going into Syria to seek revenge for gassed children. Same as we didn't go into Iraq to seek revenge for gassed children. (the gas we sold them, I'd add)

Whether or not it is a republican or a democrat, they are playing you. They are robbing you. And they are killing in your name. I see posts of Obama can't do this because democrats won't get elected in 2014 or 2016. It is absolutely absurd to think he, or the people behind him who literally control the show, give one fuck about which party gets in or doesn't. The contracts will keep coming. The blood will keep flowing. And the people will keep being propagandized to see hope next election time.

Short of Rand Paul getting elected president in 2016, which is a big if considering who owns NBC, FOX, and the power they wield, not one thing will change. They'll give you a crumb of freedom here or there, scale back mandatory sentencing, relax federal marijuana laws, but the actual things that matter, foreign policy, economic policy, and this police state apparatus will not so much as be defunded one penny. When I say they live in palaces I am not exaggerating or speaking out of line. Billions may seem trivial when trillions are up for grab. It's still a billion dollars.

Excellent analysis.

We didn't bomb Serbia without UN approval for 78 days to "stop genocide" like everyone STILL says either.

Milosovic is dead, Camp Bondsteel (guess where) is very much alive. And it was used "as a detention facility"

‘Smaller Version of Guantanamo” in Kosovo
That the case of Guantanamo is not unique was proven by human rights activists who claim that prisons similar to the one in Cuba also existed in Bosnia and Kosovo.
http://dalje.com/en-world/smaller-version-of-guantanamo-in-kosovo/229833
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Behold the 955 acres that is Camp Bondsteel, Kosovo:

Lots of blame to go around for this, what is being done in our name. The propaganda is ubiquitous but so is the apathy and the gullibility. It's been depressing even trying to talk about it since 1999. People were making fun of and mocking Serbisns who demonstrated against their country being bombed and describing Milosovic exactly like they are now describing Assad and Gaddafi before that and Hussein before that.

What is the most amazing thing is how Humans have managed to exist as long as they have.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Follow the money. It's old advice but astonishing how often it's overlooked.



Excellent analysis.

We didn't bomb Serbia without UN approval for 78 days to "stop genocide" like everyone STILL says either.

Milosovic is dead, Camp Bondsteel (guess where) is very much alive. And it was used "as a detention facility"

‘Smaller Version of Guantanamo” in Kosovo
That the case of Guantanamo is not unique was proven by human rights activists who claim that prisons similar to the one in Cuba also existed in Bosnia and Kosovo.
http://dalje.com/en-world/smaller-version-of-guantanamo-in-kosovo/229833
​

Behold the 955 acres that is Camp Bondsteel, Kosovo:

Lots of blame to go around for this, what is being done in our name. The propaganda is ubiquitous but so is the apathy and the gullibility. It's been depressing even trying to talk about it since 1999. People were making fun of and mocking Serbisns who demonstrated against their country being bombed and describing Milosovic exactly like they are now describing Assad and Gaddafi before that and Hussein before that.

What is the most amazing thing is how Humans have managed to exist as long as they have.

A hellava lot of humans didn't And, we are not done yet. Human existence is not hardly a blip on the eternity oscilloscope. but it is sure painful in the meantime. What a waste.
The machine needs resources.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Oh, yeah - I forgot the really important reasons:

MIC profits.
Syria doesn't have a central bank (yet)

-t

None of this is really about Syria, or Assad. This is about Iran.

All of the above, plus Oil interests.

The direct motivation of many in the media is Iran, but the corporate interests dovetail with that nicely. They are all in alignment.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Yep, doesn't matter whether 'R' or 'D' president gets elected, you will see "Miss Me Yet?" for Obama just like you do for Bush now. The agenda is not owned by a single party or president.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Good one!

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Obama is in Sweden at a press conference with Swedish prime minister Fredrik Reinfeldt. Beside sounding like the studdering bafoon without his teleprompters, Obama made the following statement to the press core, "I didn't make the statement of a Red Line in Syria, the world did."

There's your #1 lie and propaganda for the day...