NYT article on our man, Ron Paul

PatriotOne said:
LOL...if you watch the movie, it becomes apparent. I doubt some kid has a 35 to 40 foot stone owl in his backyard and a thousand or so grown men watching an effigy being burned in the belly of the molech ;)
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I'm not questioning the factual basis of your statement. In fact, I know that Bohemian Grove goes on. However, regardless of its validity, such statements turn off the average American.

We MUST distance ourselves from what the majority of peopleview as conspiracy theories. Such discussion does a great disservice to the campaign because people will see us as nuts. We need to only discuss what Dr. Paul has said

We need to focus on Ron Paul's message and get him elected
 
Kuldebar said:
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Looks like a scene out of The Wicker Man. The old Brit version, not the crappy Nicholas Cage version.

guynamedjohn said:
This is probably the longest piece I have ever read on RP and the author can't be bothered to tell the reader what RP's message is??
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This is a very good point. If you are really trying to zero in on a politician, how can you possibly not give an overview of his positions? The writer touched on a few things, but in such a long article the lack of real issues is astonishingly off-key.
 
Kuldebar said:
o.O

The full text of the article is in the first post of this thread.
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and finished in the 2nd post of the thread.

I findit kind of odd that the meetup group that represents Ron Paul started talking about the Liberty. Wasn't there something more current? I would have been annoyed with that as well.
 
Mort said:
and finished in the 2nd post of the thread.

I findit kind of odd that the meetup group that represents Ron Paul started talking about the Liberty. Wasn't there something more current? I would have been annoyed with that as well.
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Well, liberty is so, like, 1780's...we need to get behind modern issues like universal shoe care! If government doesn't get more involved in getting shoes out to the people that need shoes, there's going to be a lot of bare feet in America.
 
Kuldebar said:
Well, liberty is so, like, 1780's...we need to get behind modern issues like universal shoe care! If government doesn't get more involved in getting shoes out to the people that need shoes, there's going to be a lot of bare feet in America.
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I guess I didn't make it clear. "The Liberty" as in the ship attack by Israel in the 6-day war.
 
Mort said:
I guess I didn't make it clear. "The Liberty" as in the ship attack by Israel in the 6-day war.
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Oh, hehe

Well, that's so 1960's...and all's fair in love and Israel.

Whoops, I better not say that, I might want to run for public office one day, don't wanna be accused of anything. :)
 
Does the "Owl" have guards? We would need to find a way to take them out as well. we also have a bobcat and a john deere tractor. If someone has a trailer that would be helpful, as just dragging it down the street may arouse suspiscion.
 
JosephTheLibertarian said:
Ron Paul is not anti-abortion, he believes in state's rights... they just can never get his positions right!
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He is actually. I have seen him say he considers abortion an act of violence. But yes he also believes states can better decide this issues than the feds.
 
Mort said:
He is actually. I have seen him say he considers abortion an act of violence. But yes he also believes states can better decide this issues than the feds.
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But he doesn't support a federal ban on abortion, so it doesn't really matter what his personal beliefs are.
 
VERY inspiring article and even the last statement can work to our advantage . . .

People always want what they can't have . . .

Whaddya mean this guy won't be president . . . why I outta . . . !!!
 
Joseph

States rights or not, RP has come out very strongly and clearly as being personally against abortion. To people who are pro-choice, that's all they need to know. When liberals hear "states rights", they immediately think Jim Crow, not James Madison. You might feel the position of states' rights has an intellectual primacy over the details of Paul's personal beliefs, but many people will not bite (in fact, they might even find the states' rights approach to be a more sinister and back-door way of legislating for the nation through the states... the slippery slope argument more or less). In all, you're right, but I don't think people will be inclined to see it quite like that. Last thought, I wonder if Paul would be so quick to put the states' rights issue over the anti-abortion issue, even. I bet if you asked him 'personally' he'd say that ONCE it's a states' rights issue, HE'D be campaigning against abortion in his state. It's still very complicated and the intellectual rub of federalism doesn't satisfy everyone.
 
DeadheadForPaul said:
I'm not questioning the factual basis of your statement. In fact, I know that Bohemian Grove goes on. However, regardless of its validity, such statements turn off the average American.

We MUST distance ourselves from what the majority of peopleview as conspiracy theories. Such discussion does a great disservice to the campaign because people will see us as nuts. We need to only discuss what Dr. Paul has said

We need to focus on Ron Paul's message and get him elected
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I didn't write the NYT's article :eek: Once it hits the papers, I just thought those people here should be able to defend against the inevitable blogs about it by being infomed that it is indeed true.

After all, who is going to look like a kook when we spread around the Bohemian Grove video in defense of the statement? Ron Paul? Us? Or those global leaders in the middle of the woods burning an effigy of a child in the belly of Molech? My money is on the Global leaders ;).
 
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jorlowitz said:
States rights or not, RP has come out very strongly and clearly as being personally against abortion. To people who are pro-choice, that's all they need to know. When liberals hear "states rights", they immediately think Jim Crow, not James Madison. You might feel the position of states' rights has an intellectual primacy over the details of Paul's personal beliefs, but many people will not bite (in fact, they might even find the states' rights approach to be a more sinister and back-door way of legislating for the nation through the states... the slippery slope argument more or less). In all, you're right, but I don't think people will be inclined to see it quite like that. Last thought, I wonder if Paul would be so quick to put the states' rights issue over the anti-abortion issue, even. I bet if you asked him 'personally' he'd say that ONCE it's a states' rights issue, HE'D be campaigning against abortion in his state. It's still very complicated and the intellectual rub of federalism doesn't satisfy everyone.
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I'm a "pro choice" leaning Libertarian, but I guess I can understand Dr. Paul. I know that he leans pro life, but he never votes either way, I believe that it's simply not a government issue at state or federal level.
 
where are they going to burn the effigy once we put the statue of liberty there?
 
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