NYC's Sex Ed Curriculum Includes Porn, Bestiality

[Ranger29860]

If some dude isn't attracted to females, and there is another dude who isn't attracted to females, then how is homosexual activity wrong? Same with women. If they aren't attracted to men, then how is engaging each other wrong? They aren't going to have kids anyway, and who the hell are you or anybody to tell someone that just because of their genes or life experiences, they can't have a strong, loving, intimate and physical relationship with another person? People are BUILT to have intimate and physical relationships with others. Our bodies are wired for it, and our bodies THRIVE on it. It is unhealthy NOT to engage in these types of activities.

It's very simple science.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249138,00.html

Good post Danno. Also ask yourself what most "Immoral" things have in common.

Stealing is immoral (negatively impacting another)
Killing is immoral (negatively impacting another)
Lying (negatively impacting another)
Rape (negatively impacting another)
gay sex (giving pleasure to another)?

Notice the problem?

 

[dannno]

Notice the problem?

Only straight people who find somebody to fall in love with are allowed to have such pleasures. Everybody else can live a hell on earth.

 

[Sola_Fide]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Why would you post this to prove that confiscation and force exists with churches? Who is required by the government to go to this camp? Who is required to fund this camp through taxation? That's right. Only the people who voluntarily want to. Your argument has completely failed.


Now it looks like the denomination that is most represented by the members of this camp are Pentacostals who "speak in tongues" and emphasize emotionalism. I find both of these things unbiblical, so I might even agree with you that there are some elements of error that are inculcated to young people that shouldn't be. I would argue against Pentacostalism too. But parents have the freedom to teach whatever they want to their children.


But my point still stands that people aren't forced to go to church or are taxpayers forced to subsidize it. There is no way you can win this argument. And why would you even dare try to shift the focus off the overt statist BRAINWASHING that occurs in the modern education system? That system is almost single-handedly responsible for our destruction as a republic...and your over here posting some nutty Pentacostal worship service videos, like that is something we REALLY have to worry about. You should be ashamed of yourself for such a failed argument.

 

[Noob]

Looks like the people at Occupy wall street agree with this..


http://www.youtube.com/user/patriotUSA2007#p/u/1/My_cNzQGS8E

 

[Bordillo]

Why would you post this to prove that confiscation and force exists with churches? Who is required by the government to go to this camp? Who is required to fund this camp through taxation? That's right. Only the people who voluntarily want to. Your argument has completely failed.


Now it looks like the denomination that is most represented by the members of this camp are Pentacostals who "speak in tongues" and emphasize emotionalism. I find both of these things unbiblical, so I might even agree with you that there are some elements of error that are inculcated to young people that shouldn't be. I would argue against Pentacostalism too. But parents have the freedom to teach whatever they want to their children.


But my point still stands that people aren't forced to go to church or are taxpayers forced to subsidize it. There is no way you can win this argument. And why would you even dare try to shift the focus off the overt statist BRAINWASHING that occurs in the modern education system? That system is almost single-handedly responsible for our destruction as a republic...and your over here posting some nutty Pentacostal worship service videos, like that is something we REALLY have to worry about. You should be ashamed of yourself for such a failed argument.

Actually I think you are completely off based and wrong here. I am 100% for local municipalities deciding what is in their school curriculum, they pay the taxes. I am merely pointing out that an education of a child goes only as far as their parents. If some crap is taught in school that is unfavorable by the people that pay the taxes, than it can get removed.


Also churches are effectively subsidized by the taxpayers because they pay 0 taxes. What happens in the video I posted is criminal. What happens to a child that gets brainwashed by a church is irreversible; At least their are a few good teachers and the parents to correct kids if they learn fucked up shit in public school

 

[Cutlerzzz]

Actually I think you are completely off based and wrong here. I am 100% for local municipalities deciding what is in their school curriculum, they pay the taxes. I am merely pointing out that an education of a child goes only as far as their parents. If some crap is taught in school that is unfavorable by the people that pay the taxes, than it can get removed.

Also churches are effectively subsidized by the taxpayers because they pay 0 taxes. What happens in the video I posted is criminal. What happens to a child that gets brainwashed by a church is irreversible; At least their are a few good teachers and the parents to correct kids if they learn fucked up shit in public school

So many problems with this post...

The majority will force their beliefs down the throats of the minority, taking away the individual taxpayer's ability to decide what is taught in school.

Not being extorted by the state does not have anything to do with subsidies.

Even if you consider what is taught in Church to be brainwashing, nothing about it is irreversable. People change their beliefs frequently. Compare this to government indoctrination in school, and it's clear which is worse.

Good parents can correct things that they believe are fucked up about Church, and good Priests can as well.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Aww, don't be discouraged. Children are our legacy. If you teach your children well, they will learn to fight like us!

Yes, train them in the ways of the Jedi Masters, or Our Forefathers.

 

[Humanae Libertas]

Doesn't surprise me, just about everything on tv has some type of sexual innuendo.

 

[Bordillo]

So many problems with this post...

The majority will force their beliefs down the throats of the minority, taking away the individual taxpayer's ability to decide what is taught in school.

Not being extorted by the state does not have anything to do with subsidies.

Even if you consider what is taught in Church to be brainwashing, nothing about it is irreversable. People change their beliefs frequently. Compare this to government indoctrination in school, and it's clear which is worse.

Good parents can correct things that they believe are fucked up about Church, and good Priests can as well.

notice how I said local municipalities, if you don't like what they teach in their schools than move or homeschool.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

notice how I said local municipalities, if you don't like what they teach in their schools than move or homeschool.

Am I suddenly allowed to stop paying all taxes on education then? Do I get back what I have paid in?

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

Nothing man made ever last, even civilizations. Nature uses moral decay to reduce civilizations like it uses rust and mold

 

[eduardo89]

Saw that comment coming...just not that blunt. So on a moral level pedophilia. (The raping of a non consenting child) is on par with gay sex(consensual sexual contact between to adults)?

Insofar as they are both morally indefensible, yes. They are obviously not the same acts, but neither can be justified as being moral acts.

 

[Ranger29860]

Insofar as they are both morally indefensible, yes. They are obviously not the same acts, but neither can be justified as being moral acts.

Well then i misunderstood your meaning. I really would not use those two together since it muddles the issue. Not to mention i have actually met people who think gay people are pedo's (they legitmitaly thought this)\\

**edit*
I am going to leave in my original post just for honesty sake. But i went back and read your comment again and it seriously implies gays are just as bad as pedophiles. Its not something that should ever be said like that. That kinda comment does cause violence.(not necessarily from you but those who are radical in nature)

 

[osan]

Mandatory Sex Ed Details May Be Too Racy for Parents: Report
The lessons are expected to begin next spring.

While I do not share the same outlook on sex as most self-professed "chrisitians", I am in full agreement that this is another giant step in the wrong direction. The "they're going to do it anyway" justification is bullshit. That aside, the assumption of parental prerogatives by the Board is most dangerous. I blame parents for this almost entirely. As a former secondary teacher in NYC I can attest first hand at the rank lassitude that well more than 90% of the parents show in terms of their involvement with their children's "education". Those retards deserve every heartbreak coming to them. Unfortunately, their children do not.

It is so very interesting to observe the courses of action the Board takes in such matters. On the one hand they are ever so permissive, letting the little darlings do as they please and acting with unequivocal force against anyone attempting to thwart the student. On the other hand, students not running down the corral in the "right" direction are readily thwarted. To the naive eye this appear nonsensical, but when one is aware that these directives hold the purpose of ensuring that the child graduates from high school more stupid, less self-possessed, and less capable than when they went in at kindergarten, the actions begin to make perfect sense. I have several close friends who are now closing in on their thirtieth years at this profession and they will tell you straight out that the central mission of the schools in NYC is to basically guarantee that your child NEVER develops into a proper adult; that they remain uneducated, if well trained in some respects, and that their condition remains one of lifelong dependence on someone else. This is the slaughter to which parents gladly send their offspring, and that is why we are doomed as a nation. Not because an internal enemy took us by force, but because we cheerfully committed suicide for reasons the typical individual is not so much as aware, much less understands.

That is where we have been heading for at least 40 years (much longer, but let us leave it at that), so this is nothing new. We chose to accept this horror we call "public education". It will be the single greatest factor serving as the basis for the end of the United States. That and willful stupidity and the general repudiation of personal responsibility for oneself, one's family, and one's neighbors.

 

[osan]

Homosexuals are fighting a hopelessly futile PR battle by attempting to justify biologically unnatural acts as being completely respectable.

To call what they do "biologically unnatural" presumes the whole of creation's purpose tied to one's sleeve. That appears to me a bite a wee bit too large to take. That we humans have correlated the sexual act with reproduction and having most reasonably associated this with all that is natural and proper, it does not of necessity follow that this defines the universe of propriety and purpose. I am not saying that your claim is incorrect, but that your logic shows a significant disconnect in the links going from points A to B. Proof of the assertion that butt-sex or any other sort that is not missionary position, eyes-shut, huffing and puffing as silently as possible, in the pitch black of night, married, pajamas-on sex is somehow "unnatural" requires much more than the mere say-so.

Respect is earned not forced down one's throats.

Good luck trying to convince some factions of that. They'd have you hanging most unnaturally by your balls for so much as suggesting that they are not entitled not only to your respect, but your undying love, admiration, and probably even your butthole. Can we have three cheers for the entitlement mentality? Anyone? Three cheers? Eh? OK, how about two? Anyone?...

I think they need to collectively get away from the sexual act dominated aspect of their platform and there would be a greater appreciation for men or women who would like to share their lives with members of the same sex.

This is a most entertainingly curious inconsistency of so may who are queer. They bleat on endlessly how they are "just like everyone else", yet they are not. Forget the queer part per se. I accept that as normal enough and certainly no basis for use of force, all else equal. What is not "just like everyone else", however, are those individuals (an apparently great majority) who do not know how to STFU about their orientation. Jesus bleeding from the eyes... they never shut up about it. Gay this and gay that... is there nothing more to your identity than that you are queer? Give it a rest. I do not profess my heterosexual preference in every other breath. Nobody wants to hear it. Nobody wants to hear yours, either. And that appears to be what so many of them hate - that the rest of us do not cheer them on endlessly through their days - "You go girl!" and so forth every time their proclivities and choices are mentioned. This smacks of self-doubt about the propriety of the choices they made. But let me not pretend to have a crystal ball into the minds of others. Suffice to say that this is often how it reads to my eyes and it seems pathetic and very sad in many cases. Finding acceptance of self through the delusion of forcing acceptance by others is about as pitiable as anything I could possibly imagine.

Force only begets resistance and nobody disdainful of the gay lifestyle is going to change their minds through its application. Can you spell "CATASTROPHIC FAIL"?

 

[osan]

The irony, of course, is that while you are complaining they are actually discouraging kids from these activities.


Abstinence education fails

State mandated and administered sex education fails equally, at the very least. It is eminently arguable that in a broader sense it fails far more seriously.

This is an issue of parenting and the right of the parent far outstrips any delegated authority of the "state".

 

[Ranger29860]

Good luck trying to convince some factions of that. They'd have you hanging most unnaturally by your balls for so much as suggesting that they are not entitled not only to your respect, but your undying love, admiration, and probably even your butthole. Can we have three cheers for the entitlement mentality? Anyone? Three cheers? Eh? OK, how about two? Anyone?...



This is a most entertainingly curious inconsistency of so may who are queer. They bleat on endlessly how they are "just like everyone else", yet they are not. Forget the queer part per se. I accept that as normal enough and certainly no basis for use of force, all else equal. What is not "just like everyone else", however, are those individuals (an apparently great majority) who do not know how to STFU about their orientation. Jesus bleeding from the eyes... they never shut up about it. Gay this and gay that... is there nothing more to your identity than that you are queer? Give it a rest. I do not profess my heterosexual preference in every other breath. Nobody wants to hear it. Nobody wants to hear yours, either. And that appears to be what so many of them hate - that the rest of us do not cheer them on endlessly through their days - "You go girl!" and so forth every time their proclivities and choices are mentioned. This smacks of self-doubt about the propriety of the choices they made. But let me not pretend to have a crystal ball into the minds of others. Suffice to say that this is often how it reads to my eyes and it seems pathetic and very sad in many cases. Finding acceptance of self through the delusion of forcing acceptance by others is about as pitiable as anything I could possibly imagine.

Force only begets resistance and nobody disdainful of the gay lifestyle is going to change their minds through its application. Can you spell "CATASTROPHIC FAIL"?

Thank you for using words such as "Factions"and "Some" I could care less if you know my sexual preference or gender identity. Where it becomes a problem for most is the legal ramifications of others views. Marriage, Benefits and other things the community must be focused on. Sadly in any equal protection fight there will be elements that do crazy things. This is present in all groups. I believe there is an element of people just wanting to educate. But it comes off as you say. If we didn't try to regulate behavior or put people in groups we wouldn't have this problem(as prevalent).

 

[Ranger29860]

State mandated and administered sex education fails equally, at the very least. It is eminently arguable that in a broader sense it fails far more seriously.

This is an issue of parenting and the right of the parent far outstrips any delegated authority of the "state".

The biological element of sex needs to be taught in public schools. The nuances and emotional and physical ramification don't need to be. Homosexual sex, Bestiality, or even heterosexual sex does not need to be taught outside of the biological element of it. Now history class could cover gay history just like it covers black,women and any other groups history but it should be in a factual way.

 

[osan]

Abstinence worked for me

It works if you believe it does

Big "if". Every one is different. Always bear that in mind.

 

[osan]

The biological element of sex needs to be taught in public schools.

Needs? Maybe, maybe not. Please elaborate. I see nothing wrong with it, to be sure, but what about parents who are religiously scrupulous of such teaching? Are you implying they have no say in the matter?