NYC - Up next: A ban on burgers more than four ounces.

[No Free Beer]

Easy: Tie insurance rates to lifestyle risk factors, including weight/BMI/whatever at the start of an insurance contract.

I completely agree.

What will happen is that insurance companies will accept people based on weight and health. The politicians will claim "discrimination"

 

[oyarde]

Well , screw that guy I am eating meat & potaoes right NOW , when done , I am goingout back to piss & tell my dog , he never has to go to New Jersey , wear a seatbelt or go to prison for texting . FTW !

 

[DamianTV]

I completely agree.

What will happen is that insurance companies will accept people based on weight and health. The politicians will claim "discrimination"

But then the bought and paid for politicians will make it illegal for you to be overweight or unhealthy because the people that bought and paid for said politician were in fact the insurance companies themselves. This is the very definition of Facism. It is nothing more than Socialism controlled by Corporatism. The merger of the Corporate and the State, where the Corporations decree what the Law is.

And make no mistake, laws like these are Facist Law.

 

[moostraks]

But then the bought and paid for politicians will make it illegal for you to be overweight or unhealthy because the people that bought and paid for said politician were in fact the insurance companies themselves. This is the very definition of Facism. It is nothing more than Socialism controlled by Corporatism. The merger of the Corporate and the State, where the Corporations decree what the Law is.

And make no mistake, laws like these are Facist Law.

I was thinking this morning we should turn the narrative on this issue and start asking if the government should start mandating people exercise. They must have gym memberships (I mean if we can force the purchase of health insurance then we should be allowed to follow through with demanding they keep as physically fit as possible!) The membership will be tied to their social security card and failure to comply will be handled just like health insurance through the income tax fines. Go ahead and take this baby to the next level for them. (Then we can hand out hard copies of 1984 to these folks because we know what happens to the digital copies...)

 

[donnay]

But then the bought and paid for politicians will make it illegal for you to be overweight or unhealthy because the people that bought and paid for said politician were in fact the insurance companies themselves. This is the very definition of Facism. It is nothing more than Socialism controlled by Corporatism. The merger of the Corporate and the State, where the Corporations decree what the Law is.

And make no mistake, laws like these are Facist Law.

We have a winner!! ^^^^


The road to tyranny is paved with good intentions.

 

[oyarde]

I was thinking this morning we should turn the narrative on this issue and start asking if the government should start mandating people exercise. They must have gym memberships (I mean if we can force the purchase of health insurance then we should be allowed to follow through with demanding they keep as physically fit as possible!) The membership will be tied to their social security card and failure to comply will be handled just like health insurance through the income tax fines. Go ahead and take this baby to the next level for them. (Then we can hand out hard copies of 1984 to these folks because we know what happens to the digital copies...)

I figured if the got the health care mandate to stick , the next move would be to require anyone reporting 35k year or more to buy a crappy 40k electric car...

 

[anaconda]

I have a porterhouse in the kitchen my honey left for me before she went to bed ( it is my Birthday ) that probably goes a good bit more than an 8 oz burger , tell these food police terrorist jagoffs , I am going to eat it all , and have onions , mushrooms and tall boy beers with it too !

Happy Birthday.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Seat belt laws were a blip. Reduced traffic deaths have almost everything to do with vehicle safety improvements.

IIRC, they also changed how they counted traffic deaths at the same time that they reduced the speed to 55. If you were not declared dead at the scene, you didn't "die in the accident".

 

[DamianTV]

Funny, but Shark Attacks are handled similarly. If a person is killed by a shark, and their body is unable to be found, it is NOT ruled as a shark attack. Statistical Smoke and Mirrors. Same shit as voting. Exclude as many votes as possible from being eligible as valid votes for your opponent, but allow ALL votes for your candidate to be considered. He who votes has no power, only he who Counts the votes has any real power. Same shit as pretty much every statistic out there.

50% of Statistics are 80% bullshit.

Now, with that said, and considering they are trying to measure out 4 ounces of meat in a patty, is what the meat is made out of really 100% beef? IDK, lets ask Taco Bell about their "Taco Filler" that is 70% Not Meat!

Loophole!

 

[Anti Federalist]

Bump for timeliness

 

[cajuncocoa]

Yep, this is our future.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yep, this is our future.

Yup.

With today's SCROTUS ruling, nothing, and I mean nothing, can be considered "private" behavior any more.

The legal precedent has now been set, anything you do, anywhere, at any time, is subject to government scrutiny and regulation, with total surveillance required to monitor for compliance.

 

[Xhin]

Ban on smoking? Well, it's unfair for taxpayers to fund such an irresponsible lifestyle choice.

Discouragement of obesity via intrusion into the private lives of citizens? Same as above.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Ban on smoking? Well, it's unfair for taxpayers to fund such an irresponsible lifestyle choice.

Discouragement of obesity via intrusion into the private lives of citizens? Same as above.

Yes, citizen, you understand.

Now, you have no objection to being monitored for compliance, correct?

Too bad if you do.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

If I may, I can interject some socialist realities I have to live with on a day to day basis.
We have a healthcare mandate here. You simply have to buy insurance or you will get fined (don't know how much, but you lose anyways), in addition to that, there are subsidies for people with a lower income (which is a majority) of up to about 50-60% of the cost of a basic insurance plan (this already covers preventative things and a whole boatload of other things you probably had never heard of.). So people with a lower income get to pay about half for their insurance. People with an income above a certain threshold have to pay extra, up to multiple times the cost of basic insurance. In effect, the cost of healthcare is progressive here.

Since a couple of years there is a new system, which is mandated by the government; electronic medical records. They have established a database of some sort with all the medical records of people, so pharmacists, doctors or first aid workers have instant access... The government assures us this system will not be abused. Luckily I found there was a clause to opt-out, so I did. Even though, I have no clue if they are still keeping records but not distributing them freely.

Every now and then there's some politician that wants to mold peoples behavior. Several years ago, I might not have noticed how socialist these politicians are. But to not bore you with the politics of a tiny country that's way too wet and cold anyways, I'll stay on topic a little. In recent years there have been a number of bills introduced (but luckily did not pass) that mold behavior. For instance there have been politicians that wanted to raise taxes on; 'Sugar', 'Soft drinks', 'Fat content', 'Meat'. They have no problem raising taxes on cigarettes and alcohol every single time... And they always claim it's for the general welfare.

It's not necessarily the burgers. They are dear to me. But the fact that most people do not question it when their freedoms are taken away from them is what hurts me most to be honest. Sometimes it's like people don't even want to be free.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Sometimes it's like people don't even want to be free.

They do not and never have.

Pharaohs, potentates and pooh bahs of all stripes have been manipulating that basic human weakness, that Thomas Jefferson addressed in the Declaration of Independence, for centuries.

People, by and large, do not want freedom and never have.

They want to be fed, entertained and exercise petty power over their fellow man.

The sooner those of us in the very small minority that do want freedom, recognize this, the better off all of us will be.

 

[cajuncocoa]

But the fact that most people do not question it when their freedoms are taken away from them is what hurts me most to be honest. Sometimes it's like people don't even want to be free.

If I had a dime for every time I had this same thought.....

 

[Travlyr]

Going to get a double bacon cheeseburger, fries, and cola while I still can.

BRB.

 

[LibForestPaul]

We’ll have won an important victory over Libertarianism Gone Wild, a far bigger threat to society than even Sunkist Orange.

Srs...this was uttered ?

 

[Travlyr]

I'm back after getting a double mcdoggels "Two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions - all on a sesame seed bun" ... a BIG MAC.

I threw away the top of one bun and the bottom of the other bun and put them together because I've read where wheat is bad for people. The burger was alright. It looked kind of strange, however. Nonetheless, I figure it'll digest eventually. I'm sure it was 100% beef, but I'm not sure that they know what beef is.