NYC - Up next: A ban on burgers more than four ounces.

... and high-fructose corn syrup is little better. ...

That comment right there shows the true ignorance of the person that made that statement. It isnt about getting rid of sugar, the whole thing is a prop up for the high fructose corn syrup industry. Ten bucks says Bloomberg owns stock in HFCS. Anyone care to double check that?
 
Most people put ice in their soft drinks. Impossible to put 16 ounces of soda into a 16 ounce glass half filled with ice.
 
That, and major breakthroughs in the treatment of trauma and secondary infection.

If you get in a wreck, you're more likely to survive.

Keep in mind, the chart you posted showed figures before the introduction of penicillin.

Seat belt laws were a blip. Reduced traffic deaths have almost everything to do with vehicle safety improvements.

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Grains are the obesity issue. Not sugar. Now they will sell more grain to go with less fat and protein. I have a hard enough time sustaining weight and eat no grains. When I worked my ass off in the sun I would go through two large iced sugared drinks in a shift. Didn't do anything to me and water would have drained me of minerals. Trust me. I burned every last sugar calories I consumed. Bunch of bureaucrat desk jockeys. Don't even know why they are fat. They can cut it all but until they stop the grains they will bloat.
 
Grains are the obesity issue. Not sugar. Now they will sell more grain to go with less fat and protein. I have a hard enough time sustaining weight and eat no grains. When I worked my ass off in the sun I would go through two large iced sugared drinks in a shift. Didn't do anything to me and water would have drained me of minerals. Trust me. I burned every last sugar calories I consumed. Bunch of bureaucrat desk jockeys. Don't even know why they are fat. They can cut it all but until they stop the grains they will bloat.

@Rev9, Celiac Disease or Celiac Diet?

Where do you carry your weight? (Not you specifically Rev9) Your stomach or your hips, legs, and thighs?

Where a person carries their weight makes a difference on what type of weight loss diet a person needs to be on. The weight around the midsection, the belly fat, that is usually caused by grains and too much processed bread products. "Ass Fat" I honestly dont remember but I think something else needs to be included in the diet that isnt there. I believe protien, but vaguely remember the article. What I do remember is that the Gut Fat is way more dangerous to a persons health because that is the fat that puts excessive pressure on the organs and causes things like heart attacks and strokes. Ass Fat is actually way healthier just because of its location on the body not causing the same internal damage to organs and the cardiovascular system as Gut Fat does.

Now why are KIDS fat? Lets do some basic math. #1 Ritalin + #2 No more gym class + #3 Dont go outside and play #4 Unhealthy Diet = Obese Children. Yeah, those arent the only contributing factors, but they all do play a role to a certain extent. Balanced Diet and Lifestyle is usually the key to getting skinny and staying skinny.

Now along with my idea that the soda thing was intended to prop up the HFCS industry, could this actually be something designed by the Fast Food Industry to cause people to BUY more? A person wants a 32 oz Drink, but the Law allows for only 16, at least HALF of which is ice, which makes it 8oz, so the person has to BUY TWICE as much to get the originally intended quantity. A lot of marketing has to do with selling shit that people dont need to people that dont want the shit to begin with by creating an incentive for that product. For example, movie theaters (at least used to) prohibit outside food and drinks in order to promote their own sales of (unhealthy) but overpriced products, which resulted in people getting thirsty or hungry while watching a movie and increased their revenue.

The laws like this do nothing more than incentivize for people to buy twice as much product to acquire the same quantity as was originally desired.

Now lets look at HFCS and Prohibition. Here is a little known little discussed fact. Fructose is a Complex Sugar that has to be broken down by the Liver into Glucose and Sucrose before it can be used by the rest of the cells in the Human Body. Thus, it does the same damage to the Liver as Alcohol. Hmm, alcohol. Didnt we ban that during Prohibition? Well, except for medical uses, if you had a "License" from your Pastor, cleaning, fuel, disinfecting, cooking, home distillation, wine, blah blah blah etc etc etc. The list of "exclusions" was so extensive that although Alcohol was completely prohibited, everyone had a valid legal use for alcohol. The thing was that during Prohibition, when the Govt went after people for illegal alcohol, they went after the Distributors and Manufacturers, not the people themselves. The sugar and meat nanny state laws make the consumer the victim and relieves (hell, rewards) the distributors and manufacturers.

In conclusion, this ban on burgers is actually quietly supported by the Fast Food Industry that forces (punishes) consumers to purchase more in order to bolster the Fast Food Industry's profit margins. And if you have a 401k or stock in some fast food joint, who wouldnt want to see their 401k or stocks do better? Which ties back into lobbying, buying politicians, and incentivizes more restrictive laws against the people least able to afford it for the sake of a few who want nothing more than to lose as little money as possible during an economic depression.
 
Grains are the obesity issue. Not sugar. Now they will sell more grain to go with less fat and protein. I have a hard enough time sustaining weight and eat no grains. When I worked my ass off in the sun I would go through two large iced sugared drinks in a shift. Didn't do anything to me and water would have drained me of minerals. Trust me. I burned every last sugar calories I consumed. Bunch of bureaucrat desk jockeys. Don't even know why they are fat. They can cut it all but until they stop the grains they will bloat.
Who told you water will drain you of minerals? Sounds like a false fact made up by the Gatorade marketing office. When I work out I stick with water. Works best.
 
If they are going to ban to try to improve health, ban the bun, not the burger. Just sayin'...
 
although i do agree that the this is absolutely ridiculous, i think he does bring up a good point about insurance and the rise in prices due to these fatty mcfats. this does not mean im in favor of this bullshit law or any like it, but im just being honest to the point where it leads me to ask myself, "what do we do about insurance?"

i want answers, so i can be smart....and stuff.

oh, ill have fries with that too...
 
I don't think anyone is arguing that soda isn't bad for you. Hell, I don't even drink that nasty shit myself(unless it's a bit of bourbon and coke, yum). But, hey, I'm one of those wacky libertarians who think that it's immoral to force someone to make health decisions at the point of a gun.
 
although i do agree that the this is absolutely ridiculous, i think he does bring up a good point about insurance and the rise in prices due to these fatty mcfats. this does not mean im in favor of this bullshit law or any like it, but im just being honest to the point where it leads me to ask myself, "what do we do about insurance?"

i want answers, so i can be smart....and stuff.

oh, ill have fries with that too...

Introduce some free markets forces into health care.

It's impossible to figure any sort of cost benefit analysis into any of this.

Try and "buy" medical services.
 
We need to stop allowing jackasses like the one who wrote the article in the OP from pubishing crap like this....it's seriously going to cause me to have a stroke or a heart attack, and I would really HATE to add a burden on the precious health care SYSTEM!!!

/sarcasm....as a libertarian, of course I would never stifle someone's freedom of expression.
 
although i do agree that the this is absolutely ridiculous, i think he does bring up a good point about insurance and the rise in prices due to these fatty mcfats. this does not mean im in favor of this bullshit law or any like it, but im just being honest to the point where it leads me to ask myself, "what do we do about insurance?"

i want answers, so i can be smart....and stuff.

oh, ill have fries with that too...

Easy: Tie insurance rates to lifestyle risk factors, including weight/BMI/whatever at the start of an insurance contract.
 
Sugar is a terrible thing in the quantities Americans consume it in. We consume 10x as much sugar daily than we did 100 years ago and 500x the sugar daily that humans were intended to. Obesity rates are so high because they put sugar in everything now. Go to the store and look for products that you wouldn't think would have sugar, like ketchup or pizza, even frozen burgers. Sugar? YEP! Impossible to avoid it. All this added sugar we are consuming daily, ON TOP of an item that is actually supposed to be sugary like your nightly bowl of ice cream - no wonder why obesity rates and diabetes are so high! Ugh, diabetes. It's pretty scary but scientests are saying that the current generation age 1-15 yrs old have a 75% chance of becoming diabetic by the time they are middle aged. Within 30 years scientists are predicting 80% of the US population will be diabetic. That's scary! No one cares though. Keep watching American idol. My step son's girlfriend is 16 years old, thin as a toothpick and has diabetes. What's wrong with that picture? Hits close to home.

Nature intended sugar to be hard to get. Honey has bees protecting it that will sting you if you tried to get at it. Sugar cane, hard as bamboo, hard for early humans to get to it before modern tools were invented. NATURE KNEW that sugar should only have been consumed in small quantities.

Why do they put sugar in everything? Two reasons, it makes the food taste better (meaning you will buy it again) and it is also addicting! It's all about the $$$ for the food companies. High fructose corn syrup! Scary words. That stuff is bad for you! Guess what - no, it's not any worse than regular sugar. Molecularly, it's the same as natural cane sugar. No difference at all. The reason high fructose corn syrup is bad is because it's so cheap, which is why they put it in everything! Before it's invention, raw sugar was too expensive for them to add it to all food without signficantly raising costs. Now they can add it to their hearts contents for less than pennies on the dollar. Go to your local grocery store and see. I can buy a 16oz bottle of high fructose corn syrup for $3.00 or pay $12.00 for a 16oz bag of natural cane sugar. The food companies get it even cheaper since they produce it. It's in all American food because we are the corn capital of the world. Look at other countries that don't have corn, they are never obese.

Uhh, how did I get on this rant? Sorry. Back to soda. I don't support a ban on anything. But I think they should use their money to instead support a campaign telling you the evils of soda and sugar. Soda is the worst. Drink more than a glass a week of it some day I bet you WILL have diabetes. It's LOADED with sugar. It's pretty much liquid sugar. Why? Because soda is so bitter if they didn't load it with 40+ grams of sugar per serving (more sugar than 5 glazed donuts) no one would drink it.

Seriously, if you have obesity problems just cut sugar from your diet I guarantee you will lose 10lbs of pure fat a month easy with no exercise. Too bad no one is aware of this one easy tip when it comes to weight loss. It's hard to cut sugar from your diet since they put it in everything now. Stick to fresh vegetables and family-farm raised fresh meat. The vegetarian's have it some what right, but not because of the reason they think. The reason vegetarian diets work is because of the reduced amount of sugar in veggies, not because they are veggies. You can eat meat too as long as it's fresh and has no sugar in it and still lose the same amount of weight. Heck, when i was on my no-sugar weight loss campaign I made it a goal to eat at least 3 steaks a week high in fat. :) Weightloss went even faster because fatty products keep you fuller longer.

But, this isn't a debate over whether the food is healthy for you. And honestly, if people were eating tubs of lard every day, I wouldn't care.

If you believe in personal responsibility, then there's no question that the government has no right to ban unhealthy foods - you are responsible for your body, and what you put in it is your decision. And if the government can ban unhealthy foods, they can also ban healthy foods (raw milk?) and just about anything else, based on the legal precedent.
 
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