NYC Mayor's race (2025)

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[Invisible Man]

Like I heard a billion times at the time, "Tenth Amendment, Bro."

You're not a good reader.

The lockdowns happened because of violation of the 10th Amendment. Trump wasn't a helpless victim watching as states violated his will. He was the mastermind (or at least the authority who gave power to the masterminds like Fauci) behind them and the enabler of them. All Trump would have needed to do was stay out of it, and no governors would have had the means to keep their states locked down more than a couple weeks.

 

[Invisible Man]

I have a house in SD, nothing was shutdown.

That's the one state in the union where that was the case. Good for them. They managed to avert the Trump lockdowns. The other 49 states weren't so lucky. They all simultaneously in the middle of March 2020 adopted nearly identical lockdowns. Why? Because 49 governors all had the same idea at the same time? No. Because they all followed the the US Government COVID 19 Response Plan, published by the Trump administration on March 13 that year, and accepted the funding and federal support that Trump gave them to enact his lockdowns. The existence of South Dakota doesn't make what the other 49 states endured any less fascistic.

Also, you're wrong about nothing being shut down in SD. Even SD was affected by the federal shutdowns, such as the suspension of international air traffic.

 

[otherone]

You're not a good reader.

The lockdowns happened because of violation of the 10th Amendment. Trump wasn't a helpless victim watching as states violated his will. He was the mastermind (or at least the authority who gave power to the masterminds like Fauci) behind them and the enabler of them. All Trump would have needed to do was stay out of it, and no governors would have had the means to keep their states locked down more than a couple weeks.

You're plucky. Don't ever lose that. Try to stay objective.
Are you saying Trump exceeded his legal authority in regards to the lockdowns?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Mamdani will win because roughly 40 percent of NYC's population is not American.

No harder than that to figure out.

They come here, fleeing shitholes countries created by polices they endorsed and supported.

And then immediately vote for more of the same.

No different than Massholes fucking up Maine and New Hampshire or Californians fucking up Washington and Colorado.

 

[Invisible Man]

Are you saying Trump exceeded his legal authority in regards to the lockdowns?

Beyond question. I don't see how that's not just accepted as a given here (other than the fact that Trumpers insist on defending Trump at all costs). Where in the Constitution does it delegate to the federal government the authority to do any of what the US Government COVID 19 Response Plan, published on March 13, 2020, says?

 

[otherone]

Beyond question. I don't see how that's not just accepted as a given here (other than the fact that Trumpers insist on defending Trump at all costs). Where in the Constitution does it delegate to the federal government the authority to do any of what the US Government COVID 19 Response Plan, published on March 13, 2020, says?

Trump's Actions and Claims

• No National Lockdown Order: The Trump administration issued guidelines, not a federal mandate for a national lockdown. Actual stay-at-home orders were implemented by individual governors.
• "Total Authority" Claim: In April 2020, President Trump falsely claimed he had "total" authority to decide when states would reopen their economies, a claim widely disputed by legal experts and governors who cited the 10th Amendment. He later backpedaled on these comments.
• Undermining Federal Agencies: While the question of authority was primarily a federalism issue, the Trump administration was also criticized for sidelining and undermining the advice of federal public health agencies like the CDC and FDA, which some legal analysts argued hindered a coordinated national response

Where Trump attempted to exceed his authority was in April, when he tried to open the economy. The libs freaked out. Tenth amendment, bro.

 

[otherone]

Mamdani will win because roughly 40 percent of NYC's population is not American.

No harder than that to figure out.

They come here, fleeing shitholes countries created by polices they endorsed and supported.

And then immediately vote for more of the same.

No different than Massholes fucking up Maine and New Hampshire or Californians fucking up Washington and Colorado.

I don't blame the foreigners per se, It's been 24 years since 911. Most young people have no clue about it (18-35). These are the Obama kids raised in a progressive worldview. They're also teaching the younger generations. Cities are screwed.

 

[jmdrake]

Mamdani will win because roughly 40 percent of NYC's population is not American.

No harder than that to figure out.

They come here, fleeing shitholes countries created by polices they endorsed and supported.

And then immediately vote for more of the same.

No different than Massholes fucking up Maine and New Hampshire or Californians fucking up Washington and Colorado.

Yeah. I'm sure Cuomo being a sexual abusing mass murder has nothing to do with it. New York has always been too liberal to vote in someone like Silwa and among the non Silwa voters, Cuomo's past is too much to overcome. I called this years ago when the investigations against Cuomo came out. They didn't want Cuomo as competition for Biden (or Harris) in the presidential election and so they (New York AG's office) successfully destroyed his career through lawfare. And...I'm not complaining because he is pond scum.

Oh....and years ago I tried to tell y'all what was really happening wit Cuomo but nobody seemed to be paying attention.

Post in thread 'Manhattan DA Ends Andrew Cuomo Nursing-Home Probe'

Feb 22, 2023

Told ya so...


Manhattan DA Ends Andrew Cuomo Nursing-Home Probe

https://www.wsj.com/articles/manhattan-da-ends-andrew-cuomo-nursing-home-probe-11641250710

Jan. 3, 2022 5:58 pm ET

The Manhattan district attorney’s office has closed its investigation into how the administration of former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo handled Covid-19 in nursing homes, a lawyer who represented the administration said Monday.

Defense attorney Elkan Abramowitz, who served as outside counsel for Mr. Cuomo’s executive chamber, said he was contacted Monday by the head of the Manhattan district...

• jmdrake

 

[jmdrake]

I don't blame the foreigners per se, It's been 24 years since 911. Most young people have no clue about it (18-35). These are the Obama kids raised in a progressive worldview. They're also teaching the younger generations. Cities are screwed.

Cuomo's crimes with regards to COVID killed more New Yorkers than did 9/11.

Post in thread 'Manhattan DA Ends Andrew Cuomo Nursing-Home Probe'

Feb 22, 2023

Told ya so...


Manhattan DA Ends Andrew Cuomo Nursing-Home Probe

https://www.wsj.com/articles/manhattan-da-ends-andrew-cuomo-nursing-home-probe-11641250710

Jan. 3, 2022 5:58 pm ET

The Manhattan district attorney’s office has closed its investigation into how the administration of former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo handled Covid-19 in nursing homes, a lawyer who represented the administration said Monday.

Defense attorney Elkan Abramowitz, who served as outside counsel for Mr. Cuomo’s executive chamber, said he was contacted Monday by the head of the Manhattan district...

• jmdrake

He should be in prison as opposed to running for mayor.

 

[Invisible Man]

Trump's Actions and Claims

• No National Lockdown Order: The Trump administration issued guidelines, not a federal mandate for a national lockdown. Actual stay-at-home orders were implemented by individual governors.
• "Total Authority" Claim: In April 2020, President Trump falsely claimed he had "total" authority to decide when states would reopen their economies, a claim widely disputed by legal experts and governors who cited the 10th Amendment. He later backpedaled on these comments.
• Undermining Federal Agencies: While the question of authority was primarily a federalism issue, the Trump administration was also criticized for sidelining and undermining the advice of federal public health agencies like the CDC and FDA, which some legal analysts argued hindered a coordinated national response

Where Trump attempted to exceed his authority was in April, when he tried to open the economy. The libs freaked out. Tenth amendment, bro.

There are all sorts of things that are implemented at the state level as a result of federal involvement. That's not an excuse. Are complaints about the federal Department of Education invalidated by the fact that its influences are filtered down to the people through state and local governments? When local police departments fight the drug war with military vehicles that were given to them by the federal government at taxpayer expense, is the federal government off the hook just because it's local governments that end up using this equipment? Does the 10th Amendment only apply to cases where the federal government forces the states to comply, and not all the other much more common methods of manipulating states via funding?

 

[otherone]

Yeah. I'm sure Cuomo being a sexual abusing mass murder has nothing to do with it. New York has always been too liberal to vote in someone like Silwa and among the non Silwa voters, Cuomo's past is too much to overcome. I called this years ago when the investigations against Cuomo came out. They didn't want Cuomo as competition for Biden (or Harris) in the presidential election and so they (New York AG's office) successfully destroyed his career through lawfare. And...I'm not complaining because he is pond scum.

This whole thing seems inevitable. Cuomo is supposed to be the "moderate" dem, who ironically has as much baggage as the rest of them. All three candidates are a joke. The DNC is literally ceding the city to the progressive far-left wackos. The party itself is being held hostage to the monster it created...look at the shutdown. And now the cities will burn, and Trump will step in with the military...

 

[jmdrake]

This whole thing seems inevitable. Cuomo is supposed to be the "moderate" dem, who ironically has as much baggage as the rest of them. All three candidates are a joke. The DNC is literally ceding the city to the progressive far-left wackos. The party itself is being held hostage to the monster it created...look at the shutdown. And now the cities will burn, and Trump will step in with the military...

I'm curious. What do you have against Silwa?

 

[otherone]

I'm curious. What do you have against Silwa?

I've listened to Sliwa's radio show for many years. I like him, personally. As a candidate, he's awful. Like I said, young people don't remember 911. They certainly don't remember the Guardian Angels. Take off the stupid beret. He's a has-been who never-was. He's a clown that reminds me of Trump, a personality first, a leader, second.

 

[Snowball]

Even if the party ops or machine corps rig it for Cuomo, the tide is turning and Cuomo will have to adopt policies
that are more socially accomodative. The squeeze on the poor and working class is NOT an exclusively "left" or "right"
phenomenon. It is the outcome of changes which are endemic and complex. Both sides feed it. Sometimes they feed it differently but it still happens. It all comes back to debt and inflation. The governments are hard-wired into debt. In order to maintain their services and structures,
they have to keep the tax base inflating, which means higher real estate costs and higher real estate valuations. Those higher valuations are policy because the banks make more interest on mortgages and this means a higher tax base for the city, town, state, country, all of it.

The Fed directs inflation of all commodities and equities through computerized systems. Policy plays a significant role, and you should all know the policy now because it has been exactly the same since at least Greenspan who was 26 years ago.

The need for price fixing and services and goods for the vastly increasing number of socially marginalised populations is a due course for oligarchial capitalism, it was predicted by the best, most unpolitical ecomomists and social historians many decades ago.

Now it has happened and nothing will stop the irreversible result - dependency and socialism, that is produced from the drastic velocities at which debt, inflation, and consolidation of capital, goods and services which has continuously occurred. Our country is being altered and nothing will reverse it without a revolution or secession because the demographics and political constituency are fully transmogrified.

 

[jmdrake]

Trump's Actions and Claims

• No National Lockdown Order: The Trump administration issued guidelines, not a federal mandate for a national lockdown. Actual stay-at-home orders were implemented by individual governors.
• "Total Authority" Claim: In April 2020, President Trump falsely claimed he had "total" authority to decide when states would reopen their economies, a claim widely disputed by legal experts and governors who cited the 10th Amendment. He later backpedaled on these comments.
• Undermining Federal Agencies: While the question of authority was primarily a federalism issue, the Trump administration was also criticized for sidelining and undermining the advice of federal public health agencies like the CDC and FDA, which some legal analysts argued hindered a coordinated national response

Where Trump attempted to exceed his authority was in April, when he tried to open the economy. The libs freaked out. Tenth amendment, bro.

The lockdowns would not have happened without 1) Trump making Dr. Fauci and Dr. Brix the sole arbiters of what to do during the crisis[1] and 2) Trump pushing through the socialsist PPP program to pay people to go along with the lockdowns.

[1] Note that the CDC Director, Dr. Redfield, was not invited be a part of the televised press confernces in part because he always supported the lab leak theory, he was against the lockdowns and he was skeptical of the mRNA vaccines.

See: https://www.cato.org/blog/former-cd...cinating-insights-yesterdays-covid-collateral

During the discussion, Dr. Redfield said, “I always felt the basic premise of the Great Barrington Declaration was right on target…it wasn’t really about herd immunity; it was about targeted intervention to protect the vulnerable.”

Dr. Redfield also told the audience he argued against any mandates: “I think in public health, when you mandate somebody to do something they don’t want to do, all you do is reinforce in them the hesitancy to do that. So it was a huge mistake to go for vaccine mandates.”

The former CDC director drew attention to the fact that, as viewers of the film noted, he was not present among the pandemic task force members who stood behind President Trump in a press conference announcing lockdowns in the early days of the pandemic. Redfield chose not to participate in the press conference because “I was not an advocate of that at all.” Redfield added, “They tried to keep me off television. In fact, the secretary didn’t approve my ability to talk on television, which was awkward because I was only the CDC director” and “I always argued that the public health benefit of K through 12 was to stay in school.”

So I'd like you, or @Danke or any other Trump COVID response appologist to answer one simple question. Why didn't Trump put the CDC Director front and center for the COVID response team? The CDC trumps (no pun intended) the NIH when it comes to pandemic response and Dr. Redfield is a virologist and Dr. Fauci is not. (I would put @Anti Federalist in this group, but I don't think he's a Trump apologist when it comes to COVID but rather he feels that Trump is a "lesser of two evils" on other issues.)

See: https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/115426/documents/HHRG-118-VC00-Transcript-20230308.pdf

Dr. Robert Redfield. Dr. Redfield spent more than 45 years inmedicine and is a virologist by training. He served as Chief of theDepartment of Retroviral Research at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, co-founded the Institute of Human Virology at theUniversity of Maryland, and was the Director of the U.S. Centersfor Disease Control and Prevention from 2018 to 2021, serving during the pandemic itself.

There are all sorts of things that are implemented at the state level as a result of federal involvement. That's not an excuse. Are complaints about the federal Department of Education invalidated by the fact that its influences are filtered down to the people through state and local governments? When local police departments fight the drug war with military vehicles that were given to them by the federal government at taxpayer expense, is the federal government off the hook just because it's local governments that end up using this equipment? Does the 10th Amendment only apply to cases where the federal government forces the states to comply, and not all the other much more common methods of manipulating states via funding?

You're never going to convince someone who's dead set on "hoping" that Trump isn't responsible for things he clearly was responsible for because they don't want to believe he is "evil" the way they are convinced that Dr. Fauci is "evil." It's like "good cop / bad cop" with Trump as the "good cop" and Dr. Fauci as the "bad cop" when the COVID response is pitched to the conservatives and the reverse when it's pitched to the liberals.

 

[acptulsa]

In order to maintain their services and structures,
they have to keep the tax base inflating

They aren't just inflating to maintain any more. I'm amazed they managed for fifty years.

No, they're printing money wholesale now, and sabotaging the economy too. Wages can't possibly keep up, especially with Trump not stopping the importation of labor (possibly his most egregious betrayal, because that was the one thing he consistently promised). So people get more and more dependent on government food.

Which will make it very easy for them to make us cry, "Uncle!" Uncle Joe Stalin certainly found it to be so.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yeah. I'm sure Cuomo being a sexual abusing mass murder has nothing to do with it. New York has always been too liberal to vote in someone like Silwa and among the non Silwa voters, Cuomo's past is too much to overcome. I called this years ago when the investigations against Cuomo came out. They didn't want Cuomo as competition for Biden (or Harris) in the presidential election and so they (New York AG's office) successfully destroyed his career through lawfare. And...I'm not complaining because he is pond scum.

Oh....and years ago I tried to tell y'all what was really happening wit Cuomo but nobody seemed to be paying attention.

Post in thread 'Manhattan DA Ends Andrew Cuomo Nursing-Home Probe'

Feb 22, 2023

Told ya so...


Manhattan DA Ends Andrew Cuomo Nursing-Home Probe

https://www.wsj.com/articles/manhattan-da-ends-andrew-cuomo-nursing-home-probe-11641250710

Jan. 3, 2022 5:58 pm ET

The Manhattan district attorney’s office has closed its investigation into how the administration of former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo handled Covid-19 in nursing homes, a lawyer who represented the administration said Monday.

Defense attorney Elkan Abramowitz, who served as outside counsel for Mr. Cuomo’s executive chamber, said he was contacted Monday by the head of the Manhattan district...

• jmdrake

You'll get no argument from me on that, I agree.

If it were not for the non-American voting block, Mamdani would not even be running, nor would Cuomo for that matter.

It would be Sliwa V. Adams, again.