NY passes gay marriage

Let's Clear Up Some Things

reillym said:
Please, nobody else on this forum agrees with your bigoted hate speech. Homosexuality isn't a choice, science says so. I guess all those gay dolphins are choosing too? Gay monkeys?

Shut up bigot.
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I'm not being a bigot for making the distinction between two different forms of discrimination, reillym. Just because you disagree with my reasoning doesn't make me a bigot, nor does it mean it's hate speech. That's a bit of an exaggeration.

Also, you need to know that science doesn't say anything. Science is a field of study, filled with assumptions and data based on worldviews to interpret natural phenomena. Science is not a person; therefore, it can't tell us anything. You've simply engaged in a logical fallacy of reification. To compare human behavior to that of dolphins and monkeys is very primitive and false, for there are many things which animals do that we do not share as humans in terms of ethical living (such as eating their young).

You might be interested to know that there are many gays who believe their homosexual behavior is a choice, and they reject any scientific justification to the contrary. So, not every gay person believes their sexual lifestyle is natural.

But I digress.
 
LibertyEagle said:
You are arguing for more government. As long as you understand that, ok.
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say it differently, allowing black to marry is arguing for more govt. Increasing the number of people eligible to qualify for govt handout reserved for married couples. This is why govt should completely be out of the marriage buisness but if she insists on running the show,she better be rdy to treat everybody(consenting adults willing to join in a union with each other) fairly.

That or give those being discriminated against an exemption on paying any taxes.
 
Theocrat said:
Also, you need to know that science doesn't say anything. Science is a field of study, filled with assumptions and data based on worldviews to interpret natural phenomena. Science is not a person; therefore, it can't tell us anything. You've simply engaged in a logical fallacy of reification. To compare human behavior to that of dolphins and monkeys is very primitive and false, for there are many things which animals do that we do not share as humans in terms of ethical living (such as eating their young).
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When I was a homophobe I got into a debate on the net about homosexuality being unnatural in God's eyes and I learned that there are some animals that are homosexuals. I have two male goats and one is gay. I had to separate them because the gay goat keeps porking the other goat, and the straight goat goes nuts. What is really weird is that the goats are brothers.

Some animal behavior is more "ethical" than human behavior. Geese and wolves find a mate and keep it for life. Humans haven't been able to accomplish that yet on a grand scale. I watched a goose grieve to death by starving himself, and he cried continually over the death of his mate.
 
reillym said:
Please, nobody else on this forum agrees with your bigoted hate speech. Homosexuality isn't a choice, science says so. I guess all those gay dolphins are choosing too? Gay monkeys?

Shut up bigot.
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Apparently you're bigoted against Christians and other people of faith.
 
madfoot said:
The Constitution Party wouldn't tolerate this because they're f--king fascists. I live in NY and it's just fine here.
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Are you joking? New York is totalitarian USA. No transfats. Strict gun laws. etc. You need a permit to basically do anything. LOL
 
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YumYum said:
When I was a homophobe I got into a debate on the net about homosexuality being unnatural in God's eyes and I learned that there are some animals that are homosexuals. I have two male goats and one is gay. I had to separate them because the gay goat keeps porking the other goat, and the straight goat goes nuts. What is really weird is that the goats are brothers.
But but they are animals not humans.
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I have an interesting take on all this. I have no problems with gays marrying but I do have a problem with this culture being pushed on others. Nowadays, it seems that anything homosexual related is breathtakingly fabulous and enlightened, while heterosexuality is almost looked down upon.
 
Here's are all the gay debate talking points that we always go through in EVERY single gay thread:

Yay for gay!

Being gay is choice!

You bigot!

You anti-christian bigot!

Homosexuality occurs in nature!

This is part of the globalist agenda!

Government shouldn't be involved in marriage!

So now you say someone should be able to marry a goat?!

You're just an evil Christian!

Homosexuality is a sin!

We want a non-discriminatory government!

This is the expansion on the welfare state!

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Did I miss anything or do we want to continue throwing poo at one another for 10 more pages and continue going nowhere with this topic?
 
YumYum said:
When I was a homophobe I got into a debate on the net about homosexuality being unnatural in God's eyes and I learned that there are some animals that are homosexuals. I have two male goats and one is gay. I had to separate them because the gay goat keeps porking the other goat, and the straight goat goes nuts. What is really weird is that the goats are brothers.
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Meatwasp said:
But but they are animals not humans.
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lol, you know YumYum just makes shit up about his life/experiences, right?
 
Until government gets out of marriage, it should be open to any two consenting adults. If you don't want to marry a person of the same sex, you don't have to.
 
Theocrat said:
You're comparing apples and oranges. It's one thing to ban someone from something based on the color of his skin, which he cannot help. But it's another thing to ban someone from something based on his preference, which he chooses.
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Yes, good point they should have to be with someone who they are not sexually attracted to because some people feel uncomfortable or their religion tells them it's wrong.
 
AuH20 said:
I have an interesting take on all this. I have no problems with gays marrying but I do have a problem with this culture being pushed on others. Nowadays, it seems that anything homosexual related is breathtakingly fabulous and enlightened, while heterosexuality is almost looked down upon.
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What's a common slur used to describe heterosexuals?
 
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ronpaulitician said:
Never heard it before*. And plenty of non-heterosexuals in my daily life.

*and if I did, it must not have offended me
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Recently, it's usage has started to pick up steam, especially in light of the Malthusian propaganda which has started to gain sway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_(slang)

"Breeder" is a denigrating term for heterosexuals used in LGBT slang. It is often used pejoratively.

The use in homosexual groups is drawn from the fact that their sexual activity cannot lead to reproduction, whereas heterosexual sexual intercourse can, with implicit mocking by connotation of animal husbandry, the original usage of the word.[1][2]
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